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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 8, 2016 4:07:57 GMT -5
I think a man jumping off the top rope to stomp on your chest to be pretty brutal. I remember seeing Kevin Sullivan do it in WCW and it looks super painful. That and the Macho Man Elbow, don't know how people would willingly take that.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 8, 2016 4:15:00 GMT -5
People seem to have it stuck in their head that Finn wrestles the same with or without face paint which is just bullshit. Watch his match with Joe at Takeover, Demon Finn does plenty of stuff that he doesn't do as normal Finn.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Jan 8, 2016 4:16:15 GMT -5
People seem to have it stuck in their head that Finn wrestles the same with or without face paint which is just bullshit. Watch his match with Joe at Takeover, Demon Finn does plenty of stuff that he doesn't do as normal Finn. My problem is that many of the times he puts on the paint, the situation doesn't require him to go into "demon mode". Do you really need to resort to becoming a demon to beat up a Male model? Or a No. 1 contenders match against a fellow babyface?
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Post by Ruthless Pessimism on Jan 8, 2016 4:20:50 GMT -5
Is it that time of the week again?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 8, 2016 4:26:28 GMT -5
I like the move fine, I just feel like he could use a new one, or a second finisher.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 8, 2016 4:31:30 GMT -5
People seem to have it stuck in their head that Finn wrestles the same with or without face paint which is just bullshit. Watch his match with Joe at Takeover, Demon Finn does plenty of stuff that he doesn't do as normal Finn. The differences are definitely there, but I don't think they're pronounced enough. Regular Finn should be the guy who wants to win the match, and Demon Finn should be the guy who wants to tear his opponent limb from limb and bathe in his blood. The difference between the two should be night and day; right now he's still mostly the same guy, just with face and body paint and a few different moves. And yes, Demon Finn should be used more appropriately.
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Post by Vern on Jan 8, 2016 4:42:55 GMT -5
The only thing that I dislike about it is that it's not his only double stomp move. If it's going to be his finisher he should cut out the others. You don't use a variation of your protected finisher as an afterthought set-up strike.
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Post by Raskovnik on Jan 8, 2016 4:44:19 GMT -5
I dislike it because it's lame when you do it safely, dangerous when you do it stiffly, and just impractical all around. I prefer finishers you can hit anywhere and on anyone and I'm strongly biased against most top rope moves, especially when you end every match that way. It should be a rare thing.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 8, 2016 5:25:49 GMT -5
Because kayfabe.
Lots of moves make sense logically but that doesn't mean they're fun to look at. Heart punches, claws, bear hugs, all make sense but are shitty to watch.
This is pro wrestling, after all. And it is such a telegraphed move even by wrestling standards.
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Post by baracklesnar on Jan 8, 2016 5:31:55 GMT -5
I think Demon Balor should use a submission of some kind. I would suggest a crossface variation, but I feel like too many people are doing that already. Maybe something like a Koji clutch.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Jan 8, 2016 5:38:12 GMT -5
The move is fine, I just hate the fact my brain reads it as "coop de greyce" every time and I have to go back and correct myself.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Jan 8, 2016 7:01:02 GMT -5
It looks bad because he can't actually follow through with his feet or he'd legit kill them so he just grazes them or crumples up next to them. Also it makes no sound because nothing hits the mat so it's weird.
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Post by TWERKIN' MAGGLE on Jan 8, 2016 7:44:03 GMT -5
I hate it because the follow through looks like crap so he won't hurt the guy he's doing it to. If you can't do it and make it look good, then don't do it as your finish.
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Post by KobashiChop on Jan 8, 2016 9:12:52 GMT -5
Because Prince Devitt had better finishers.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jan 8, 2016 9:16:39 GMT -5
1. It's dangerous so it requires a lot of care to not injure the guy taking it, making it look weak. Maybe it would look better if he rolled through instead of crumpled. 2. There is no impact sound and that's really important. Every impact move has a sound, whether it's hitting the mat or slapping the thigh. The CDG looks soft and sounds soft.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 8, 2016 9:30:56 GMT -5
I think Demon Balor should use a submission of some kind. I would suggest a crossface variation, but I feel like too many people are doing that already. Maybe something like a Koji clutch. Low Ki's Dragon Clutch
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Post by JCBaggee on Jan 8, 2016 9:31:12 GMT -5
1. It's dangerous so it requires a lot of care to not injure the guy taking it, making it look weak. Maybe it would look better if he rolled through instead of crumpled. This is literally my only concern with it. WWE is supposedly terrified of Finn wearing out before he reaches the main roster, so maybe not have him leaping off the top rope onto another dude's chest every time he's in the ring?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jan 8, 2016 9:31:19 GMT -5
People seem to have it stuck in their head that Finn wrestles the same with or without face paint which is just bullshit. Watch his match with Joe at Takeover, Demon Finn does plenty of stuff that he doesn't do as normal Finn. My problem is that many of the times he puts on the paint, the situation doesn't require him to go into "demon mode". Do you really need to resort to becoming a demon to beat up a Male model? Or a No. 1 contenders match against a fellow babyface? But why male models?
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jan 8, 2016 9:36:48 GMT -5
1. It's dangerous so it requires a lot of care to not injure the guy taking it, making it look weak. Maybe it would look better if he rolled through instead of crumpled. This is literally my only concern with it. WWE is supposedly terrified of Finn wearing out before he reaches the main roster, so maybe not have him leaping off the top rope onto another dude's chest every time he's in the ring? I'm more worried for the guys taking it. One slight miscalculation on Finn's part and ribs could be broken or worse.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 8, 2016 9:40:22 GMT -5
I think Demon Balor should use a submission of some kind. I would suggest a crossface variation, but I feel like too many people are doing that already. Maybe something like a Koji clutch. Doesn't Sami Zayn do the Koji Clutch as one of his signature moves, or am I remembering wrong?
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