Demented
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Post by Demented on Feb 16, 2016 3:22:24 GMT -5
Cena, for the love of Gawd, DO NOT SPIT WITH WIZ KHALIFA AGAIN!
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 16, 2016 3:44:40 GMT -5
Honestly he might just be talking about pushing himself in rehab in general not necessarily to rush a comeback.
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Post by Ryushinku on Feb 16, 2016 4:04:29 GMT -5
He could be talking about a change in breakfast cereal. But the jury seems to have decided on this one!
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Feb 16, 2016 7:01:53 GMT -5
I hope he's talking about speeding up his rehab time in general and I think that could be the case.
He's foolish to think that him coming back in time for the match with Undertaker still won't have negative reprocussions for him down the road. You're going to need that body in somewhat passable condition after you're done wrestling, John.
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Post by joediego on Feb 16, 2016 7:12:20 GMT -5
When did we all become cowards?
John Cena knows the risks. That's why he's calling it a gamble.
There are 1,000s of examples of athletes pushing through pain and injuries in order to achieve their goals.
And a match, vs The Undertaker, in Texas, breaking the attendance record, is probably one of the only goals Cena has left.
Relax. Reigns is the face of the company now, Cena will start winding his schedule down and taking more and more time off. If he wants to take this risk, let him do it, and enjoy the results.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 16, 2016 12:03:31 GMT -5
Let me just chime in, since I had my rotator cuff completely rebuilt years ago. After a week, I had some movement, after a month, I was able to do maybe 25 percent motion. Took me three months to get back to fifty percent. Cena, in ONE month, per his OWN records, went from a 75 pound lift to 300, in, what, a week? Bodybuilder or not, surgery is surgery, and THAT kind of a leap can lead to some major issues. Same as brain damage? Of course not, apples and oranges, but, well, ideally you let surgeries heal, you follow the standard post-surgical routine. But then when mine was rebuilt, I didn't have a possibly certifiable billionaire screaming and crying on the phone every night, begging me to "push through it", so...there is that. Exactly. This is like Paul Orndorff. Eventually all this no-selling surgery is going to bite him in the ass. I'll be surprised if Cena can even lift his groceries at age 60
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Post by KofiMania on Feb 16, 2016 14:40:45 GMT -5
Let me just chime in, since I had my rotator cuff completely rebuilt years ago. After a week, I had some movement, after a month, I was able to do maybe 25 percent motion. Took me three months to get back to fifty percent. Cena, in ONE month, per his OWN records, went from a 75 pound lift to 300, in, what, a week? Bodybuilder or not, surgery is surgery, and THAT kind of a leap can lead to some major issues. Same as brain damage? Of course not, apples and oranges, but, well, ideally you let surgeries heal, you follow the standard post-surgical routine. But then when mine was rebuilt, I didn't have a possibly certifiable billionaire screaming and crying on the phone every night, begging me to "push through it", so...there is that. Exactly. This is like Paul Orndorff. Eventually all this no-selling surgery is going to bite him in the ass. I'll be surprised if Cena can even lift his groceries at age 60 It's not no-selling surgery nor is it similar to Paul Orndorf. Him recovering faster than the normal person is still him recovering- there's no indication that he's come back prior to his injury being rehabilitated. And Orndorf waited to get surgery on his torn biceps and it led to the muscle atrophying to the point they couldn't fix it- not remotely similar to Cena's situation.
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Post by Chainsaw on Feb 16, 2016 14:50:03 GMT -5
I'm honestly at the point that, whatever gets him out of the ring permanently, I say he should do it.
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Post by Ruthless Pessimism on Feb 16, 2016 14:58:06 GMT -5
The WWE needs the starpower for Mania. And it would be a chance to remind Vince that he's not as frail as some former world champions the WWE put the strap on.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Feb 16, 2016 15:00:23 GMT -5
When you have as much money as John Cena and have accomplished as much as he has in this business, rushing back from injury for one single match at Cena's age has to be one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
I don't give a f*** if it was a 4-way against Hogan, Austin, & Rock in front of 200,000 people. Think of your long-term health. You've got nothing to prove. You've already headlined the highest grossing PPV in wrestling history. You've made an absurd amount of money and will continue to make money for years to come, long after you've retired. You've been on top for 10 freaking years. There is a small handful of people in this entire business that have ever accomplished that at this high a level. No matter how many internet jabronis want to argue otherwise, you are one of the all-time greats in the history of this business and will be painted by WWE as such.
Flat out, it's not worth it. If that means Taker's gotta wrestle Strowman or whoever, that's the bullet WWE has to bite. Do not kill yourself for this. Your fans may be happy if you wrestle now but I promise you, they aren't gonna be too happy 20 years from now when Superman is having trouble getting out of a wheelchair.
Take the time off, get your body right, and come back stronger than ever after Mania. It may hurt in the short-term but in the long-term, it's what's best for you and WWE.
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Post by The Ichi on Feb 16, 2016 17:36:53 GMT -5
There are 1,000s of examples of athletes pushing through pain and injuries in order to achieve their goals. Yep, and most of the time they end badly in the long run. Listen to the doctors. I know we make fun of them and wrestlers probably think they're too manly for 'em, but they're actually called experts for a reason.
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Post by Reflecto on Feb 16, 2016 17:38:37 GMT -5
Well, at least today's news is more hopeful.
He's not trying to train himself to come back for Wrestlemania- he's going to start a crash diet to lose 22 pounds in time to enter and win the Global Cruiserweight Series!
...well, at least he'll be in better shape...
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Post by Starshine on Feb 16, 2016 17:55:40 GMT -5
When did we all become cowards? John Cena knows the risks. That's why he's calling it a gamble. There are 1,000s of examples of athletes pushing through pain and injuries in order to achieve their goals. And a match, vs The Undertaker, in Texas, breaking the attendance record, is probably one of the only goals Cena has left. Relax. Reigns is the face of the company now, Cena will start winding his schedule down and taking more and more time off. If he wants to take this risk, let him do it, and enjoy the results. Most other sports don't require the athletes to bump night in and out. There's a reason why it's got such a bad track record of guys getting out in decent shape. That doesn't even take into consideration the ones who pushed themselves too hard. But you're right, it's his body. But I'm worried he's also surrounded by a lot of enablers who are actively pushing him to wrestle so soon again despite his own well being. Pro wrestling is f***ed up like that.
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Post by Richard on Feb 16, 2016 18:06:08 GMT -5
There are 1,000s of examples of athletes pushing through pain and injuries in order to achieve their goals. Yep, and most of the time they end badly in the long run. Listen to the doctors. I know we make fun of them and wrestlers probably think they're too manly for 'em, but they're actually called experts for a reason. In that case, tell me what his doctors said. What was in his file at the surgeon's office? Never forget this is wrestling and they lie and exaggerate all the time. For all the "Oh no Cena is doom" there is just as likely "WWE hid the facts so Cena looks super human". Hell, the latter has become the norm when it comes to Cena.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Feb 16, 2016 18:15:00 GMT -5
Being smart about your health is in no way cowardice. Erring on the side of caution, especially when you have the luxury of doing so is intelligent
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Post by lmagicdancer1 on Feb 16, 2016 22:45:10 GMT -5
I'm a little biased here because I really want to see this match, but I don't think he should press his luck. But on the other hand Cena could participate in the build against the undertaker with out getting physical. You don't need all of your limbs to cut promos. HHH, undertaker, and HBk did it for their hiac match three years ago and it was imo one of the best well told wrestlemania storylines in the ppv's history. Why can't cena and taker do something similar? Cena could talk his way to wrestlemania while at the same time heal up and rehab, do the match and then take time off to finish healing. Yes, cena could wait and wwe could try to do the match next year and maybe they should but neither cena or taker are getting any younger and the longer they put this match off the less likely its going to happen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 22:53:01 GMT -5
I'm sorry but this sounds as bad as Bryan hiding his seizures. Guys who work that hard in what they do, I'm impressed at the fact they'd go through with it but that's just just not great for their health nor is it great for their mind. We get it, we know you have guts and you're a hard worker but you need to relax a bit.
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Post by edgestar on Feb 16, 2016 22:55:57 GMT -5
If he wants to push himself, I just hope he doesn't get hurt worse.
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Post by joediego on Feb 17, 2016 12:55:19 GMT -5
When did we all become cowards? John Cena knows the risks. That's why he's calling it a gamble. There are 1,000s of examples of athletes pushing through pain and injuries in order to achieve their goals. And a match, vs The Undertaker, in Texas, breaking the attendance record, is probably one of the only goals Cena has left. Relax. Reigns is the face of the company now, Cena will start winding his schedule down and taking more and more time off. If he wants to take this risk, let him do it, and enjoy the results. Most other sports don't require the athletes to bump night in and out. There's a reason why it's got such a bad track record of guys getting out in decent shape. That doesn't even take into consideration the ones who pushed themselves too hard. But you're right, it's his body. But I'm worried he's also surrounded by a lot of enablers who are actively pushing him to wrestle so soon again despite his own well being. Pro wrestling is f***ed up like that. Except Cena has the luxury of being able to return at Wrestlemania, work one match, and then not return until Summerslam, hell until Wrestlemania 33 if he wanted to.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Feb 17, 2016 13:06:34 GMT -5
I hope he's talking about speeding up his rehab time in general and I think that could be the case. He's foolish to think that him coming back in time for the match with Undertaker still won't have negative reprocussions for him down the road. You're going to need that body in somewhat passable condition after you're done wrestling, John. Yeah. He has a wife to think abo... Um... he's got plans to have childr... Well, not being in a wheelchair is cool. Sorry, Niki.
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