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Post by vinnysimmo on Mar 22, 2016 5:52:40 GMT -5
I imagine that this multi-man match at Mania is building towards someone taking the belt off Owens, leading to him getting in to a proper feud with Sami. Just Throwing Sami into a one-on-one match with Owens at mania wouldn't really work. I mean Sami hasn't exactly done anything of note since moving to the main roster. Casual fans who don't watch NXT don't really have a reason to care about him yet.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 22, 2016 5:55:41 GMT -5
I think this is one of the times a multi-man match makes total sense. Kevin's gone through the whole roster pissing everyone off, screwing over partner after partner or otherwise walking out on matches, mocking them, and tonight, he tried to outsmart everyone and it blew up in his face. Not only did he pick three people who weren't the ones gunning for him, he attacked one and caused a no contest, probably in the aim to not have to defend the title at all, and whining about it blowing up in his face got him into a tight spot. He brought it on himself.
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Mar 22, 2016 6:16:04 GMT -5
Ugh. All I wanted was Owens vs. Zayn. Owens and Zayn are going to share their first Wrestlemania in a match together regardless. It'll be great. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2016 6:22:58 GMT -5
I think this is one of the times a multi-man match makes total sense. Kevin's gone through the whole roster pissing everyone off, screwing over partner after partner or otherwise walking out on matches, mocking them, and tonight, he tried to outsmart everyone and it blew up in his face. Not only did he pick three people who weren't the ones gunning for him, he attacked one and caused a no contest, probably in the aim to not have to defend the title at all, and whining about it blowing up in his face got him into a tight spot. He brought it on himself. That's how Owen should be - a complete asshole who only cares about himself and doesn't get along with anybody, face or heel, but is capable of standing alone when necessary. A modern-day Bad News Brown-type character. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 22, 2016 6:31:09 GMT -5
I think this is one of the times a multi-man match makes total sense. Kevin's gone through the whole roster pissing everyone off, screwing over partner after partner or otherwise walking out on matches, mocking them, and tonight, he tried to outsmart everyone and it blew up in his face. Not only did he pick three people who weren't the ones gunning for him, he attacked one and caused a no contest, probably in the aim to not have to defend the title at all, and whining about it blowing up in his face got him into a tight spot. He brought it on himself. That's how Owen should be - a complete asshole who only cares about himself and doesn't get along with anybody, face or heel, but is capable of standing alone when necessary. A modern-day Bad News Brown-type character. I like it. He's somehow able to juggle being formidable and quite a coward, sort of like champion JBL, only with a very different personality. The end result is someone I enjoy watching, but who I can still easily root against. |
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Post by froggyfrog on Mar 22, 2016 6:45:19 GMT -5
Why Ryder when they have Breeze on the roster???
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Post by MrElijah on Mar 22, 2016 6:47:38 GMT -5
Either Kevin Owens is incredibly stupid kayfabe, or he is a friggin mastermind Either he lucked into 2 wins in a row against AJ Styles using Y2J's interference (just him yelling), or he expected the Y2J distraction and picked his spot. Either he stupidly couldn't leave the arena after snuffing out AJ, or he meant to stick around and instigate Miz/Zigg/Zayn to ultimately goad them into a ladder match knowing he would need at least 7 participants. Either he said KO-Mania to the Daughter of WrestleMania off-handedly, or intentionally manipulated Steph into getting himself a MitB-esque ladder match coupled with the earlier manipulation (and again, picking his spot when she's distracted with HHH/Reigns) when dubious abusing her power to make matches with 3 random (but deserving midcard) Superstars. I kinda like how you can go either way with this Huh. If Ziggler wins, Steph looks like a huge dumbass. All that to get Dolph OFF the show and now he gets a match and a CHAMPIONSHIP match to boot. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2016 6:49:20 GMT -5
Why Ryder when they have Breeze on the roster??? Breeze has the nukleer heetz! |
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Post by Germansuplex on Mar 22, 2016 6:51:20 GMT -5
Ugh. All I wanted was Owens vs. Zayn. Owens and Zayn are going to share their first Wrestlemania in a match together regardless. It'll be great. Sure, but I would prefer to see a singles match which tells a story, not some random spotfest filled to the brim with dead weight. With the notable exception of the Miz, all those other goobers can f*** right off. |
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Post by auph10imitated on Mar 22, 2016 6:56:22 GMT -5
I think Owens vs Zayn would have been enough, I understand that they havent done much together on the main roster but is really any different to a WCW guy coming into WWF to battle a guy he had history with previously in WCW? Fans get the connection and this can be the proper start to the feud, have them go a double DQ or something setting it further matches.
I looked at those they added and Miz? Sin Cara? Zack f***ing Ryder? Just adding irrelevant people for the sake of it, thats what the Battle Royal should be for, its already bad enough that Kalisto vs Ryback feels like a "C show" match but now the IC match is just a mess too.
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Mar 22, 2016 7:17:27 GMT -5
Owens and Zayn are going to share their first Wrestlemania in a match together regardless. It'll be great. Sure, but I would prefer to see a singles match which tells a story, not some random spotfest filled to the brim with dead weight. With the notable exception of the Miz, all those other goobers can f*** right off. I hear you. It looks like they've been trying to build to a singles blowoff since Zayn and Owens accepted the US Open Challenge until Zayn got injured. Better to not have an awkward, heatless showdown like Edge/Jericho WM26. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 7:23:02 GMT -5
To be fair... Do they really? Because most of Sami's post call-up appearances have been met with apathy by the crowd. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 22, 2016 7:23:25 GMT -5
I think Owens vs Zayn would have been enough, I understand that they havent done much together on the main roster but is really any different to a WCW guy coming into WWF to battle a guy he had history with previously in WCW? Yes, it is. WCW had an audience of many millions on a big TV network that made household names of most of their roster. NXT has a much smaller audience on a streaming network with a total subscriber base of just over a million people, and has seen casual audiences react with indifference to a number of NXT's "can't miss" graduates thus far. A better example would be Samoa Joe feuding with CM Punk in WWE in 2006 over the Joe vs Punk series in ROH. Hardcore fans would love it, but the majority of WWE's viewers would be fairly lost initially. NXT has come a long way, but not far enough to put the payoff to an NXT feud on the biggest PPV of the year. |
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Post by wisdomwizard on Mar 22, 2016 9:29:54 GMT -5
What's the problem with this being a multi-man match? Not like we won't still get Owens vs. Zayn later. The IC Title should have a lot of guys going at each other for it, its supposed to be the second most important accomplishment in the company. Thanks to Ambrose and Owens, the Title is a lot more credible so it makes sense to have this kind of match. Why exactly is this a problem with the IC Title, yet people want it for the U.S. Title?
...None of these complaints make any sense.....
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Post by walterharrow on Mar 22, 2016 9:45:25 GMT -5
They obviously wanted a multi man ladder match but why not do it for the US title? Kalisto vs Ryback is not a PPV worthy match, nevermind a Wrestlemania worthy match. It annoys me that Kalisto and Ryback are getting a singles match and the Dudleys/Usos are getting a two on two match (instead of a tag clusterf***) but Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn can not get a singles match to settle their personal feud.
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Post by Texas Tornado on Mar 22, 2016 10:02:12 GMT -5
For the people saying that "the main audience doesn't know enough about Sami Zayn": Yeah, obviously. That's what they've had 2 months to fix and they've failed to do any of it between having him still appear on NXT exclusively for a month and then NEVER giving him promo time on Raw.
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy. The company doesn't want to give too much exposure to a guy no one cares about, they never get the chance to care about him because they know nothing about him, the company can justify not giving him a one on one match because he's been on TV for 4 weeks and no one cares about him!
I'm not going to give WWE a pass when they've decided to be lazy and play "wait and see" with their own stories. After the year of injuries and (especially) Daniel Bryan's early retirement; you CAN'T just sit back and wait on stuff to be there for you down the road. Of course these guys will have a big feud later, but you had a payoff ripe for the picking at Mania. It's a silly thing to sit on.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 22, 2016 12:08:54 GMT -5
What's the problem with this being a multi-man match? Not like we won't still get Owens vs. Zayn later. The IC Title should have a lot of guys going at each other for it, its supposed to be the second most important accomplishment in the company. Thanks to Ambrose and Owens, the Title is a lot more credible so it makes sense to have this kind of match. Why exactly is this a problem with the IC Title, yet people want it for the U.S. Title? ...None of these complaints make any sense..... I can't speak on whether people want to have it be above or below the US title, but the problem, at least in my opinion, is that these matches are heatless. They'll get pops, certainly, the high spots will see to that, but there's so many guys involved in this match, just like last year, who could be involved in feuds that actually get people interested in watching them, and get people wrapped up in the outcome of their matches, but instead they're going to march out there with no build up and just fall off ladders for 15 minutes. It speaks to a huge lack of faith the WWE has in its midcard, a lack of faith that WWE's poor booking has brought on itself, and it contributes to WWE's equally large problem that their gimmick matches rarely have any purpose anymore. You'd think matches like this would be to settle long standing feuds (e.g. a cage match to prevent a heel from escaping, last man standing to settle a blood feud, etc.), but instead it's just "Hey, this sounds cool, let's book this as if it's a 2K video game or me as a kid playing with my action figures!" Granted, if anybody could make a feud like this work it'd be Owens, since you can easily do a "Owens has pissed off EVERYBODY and they all want to kill him" storyline, but this kind of feels half-assed. |
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Post by Andy Martin on Mar 22, 2016 12:11:36 GMT -5
Ugh. All I wanted was Owens vs. Zayn. I didn't. At least, not yet. |
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Post by Abdullah on Mar 22, 2016 15:09:58 GMT -5
Ugh. All I wanted was Owens vs. Zayn. I didn't. At least, not yet.  At least you can (falsely?) hope that they'll do right by Sami after WM with a boost from the post-WM crowd. This rushed call-up was probably always going to be botched. Here's hoping it recovers. |
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Mar 22, 2016 15:11:44 GMT -5
Owens/Sami needs to wait until Sami is over with the WWE audience. He's most definitely not right now.
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