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Post by keezy on Mar 22, 2016 15:28:24 GMT -5
The Andre The Giant battle royal is just going to be Big Show, Kane and Social Outcasts at this point because everyone else has a match now.
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Post by lildude8218 on Mar 22, 2016 15:30:30 GMT -5
with how much they care about one another it's actually a clustermakelove. and quite frankly it's upsetting that you would make it seem less than that!
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Post by RI Richmark on Mar 22, 2016 18:04:03 GMT -5
The main problem with the match is the fact we had the same exact f'n match last year. Granted, I like the build to this one better than last year's "keep away from Barrett" but this shouldn't be a yearly thing.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 22, 2016 18:20:29 GMT -5
The main problem with the match is the fact we had the same exact f'n match last year. Granted, I like the build to this one better than last year's "keep away from Barrett" but this shouldn't be a yearly thing. What they really need to do is overhaul their booking philosophy and how they use the roster. Throughout the year, only the top stars and a few select midcard acts get used consistently and Mania is the "Everyone gets a payday" pity party when it should be the other way around: the entire roster should be used on RAW and SmackDown every week with only the top performers being rewarded with a Mania appearance. If they made that change they wouldn't feel the need to shove as many guys on the card as possible and there wouldn't be any shame in being left off the card. |
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Mar 22, 2016 18:23:38 GMT -5
I'm just confused why on earth if they needed a pointless filler clusterf*** for a midcard belt they didn't use the US title. Serious answer: they want to put over Kalisto and they want him to have the WrestleMania Moment TM of beating a Big Guy one on one at Mania. But why? Nobody cares about either guy or whwt theyre fighting over. A midcarder beating another midcarder to retain a midcard belt in a match joboy will ever talk about ever seems lacking the charm of a Wrestlemania Moment |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Mar 22, 2016 18:26:25 GMT -5
Serious answer: they want to put over Kalisto and they want him to have the WrestleMania Moment TM of beating a Big Guy one on one at Mania. But why? Nobody cares about either guy or whwt theyre fighting over. A midcarder beating another midcarder to retain a midcard belt in a match joboy will ever talk about ever seems lacking the charm of a Wrestlemania Moment Because they're obsessed with having that popular Latino star to replace Rey/Eddie. |
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Post by MrElijah on Mar 22, 2016 19:24:14 GMT -5
The main problem with the match is the fact we had the same exact f'n match last year. Granted, I like the build to this one better than last year's "keep away from Barrett" but this shouldn't be a yearly thing. What they really need to do is overhaul their booking philosophy and how they use the roster. Throughout the year, only the top stars and a few select midcard acts get used consistently and Mania is the "Everyone gets a payday" pity party when it should be the other way around: the entire roster should be used on RAW and SmackDown every week with only the top performers being rewarded with a Mania appearance. If they made that change they wouldn't feel the need to shove as many guys on the card as possible and there wouldn't be any shame in being left off the card. It's their "Mania is the draw" thinking. "Sure we build up a few but really you are for the mania experience, not the Superstars!" |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2016 19:25:37 GMT -5
What's the problem with this being a multi-man match? Not like we won't still get Owens vs. Zayn later. The IC Title should have a lot of guys going at each other for it, its supposed to be the second most important accomplishment in the company. Thanks to Ambrose and Owens, the Title is a lot more credible so it makes sense to have this kind of match. Why exactly is this a problem with the IC Title, yet people want it for the U.S. Title? ...None of these complaints make any sense..... The Intercontinental title is held by someone who gets some of the biggest reactions in the company. The US title is being feuded over by two guys who most of the time get crickets. |
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Mar 22, 2016 19:46:11 GMT -5
They haven't built up Zayn vs Owens enough to have a match. It's too soon to act like it's some crazy blood feud that the crowd are begging for. They can save it. With all the damn injuries going around they are going to put he midcard in a ladder match? psh. Not to jinx anything obviously but it seems like all the injuries come from innocuous things rather than crazy ladder spots and tables. Like Neville wasn't flipping off the Tron when he hurt himself. Didn't Orton injure himself lifting a bin?! (I realise matches like this are probably not good for general wear and tear injuries that will build up over time even if nobody gets directly injured.) |
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Mar 22, 2016 19:55:32 GMT -5
This is why we need to talk about Takeover Dallas MOAR
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Post by sportatorium on Mar 22, 2016 20:05:05 GMT -5
Just a way to get a bunch of guys on the card and have Owens drop the belt without getting pinned, presumably by Sami setting them up for a feud after.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 22, 2016 21:28:54 GMT -5
I'll agree that there hasn't been enough time to build up Owens vs. Zayn one-on-one, but really, again, the fact that they couldn't book a one-on-one feud going into the biggest show of the year really doesn't reflect well on their midcard booking, even when acknowledging all the injuries.
I didn't realize this, but reading Raw results from last night it seems like they basically booked half the card with less than two weeks before the show. Makes me imagine Mean Gene or Sean Mooney being at the Event Center circa 1990 and saying something like "Call your cable company now, you don't want to be left out of this spectacular event...that currently has no matches yet!"
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Mar 22, 2016 23:15:19 GMT -5
Can we just talk about how stupid this "wrestlemania payday" thing is? If you want to give people yearly bonuses, just give them to everybody and book the show in a way that makes sense. Don't book the show around a justification to give them bonuses.
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Post by sonofblaine on Mar 23, 2016 4:00:18 GMT -5
Ugh. All I wanted was Owens vs. Zayn. I thought for sure we were getting Zayn as the new IC champ as he entered the main roster, but then on NXT he declared we wanted to go for the NXT title again. *shrug* |
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Post by Mochi Lone Wolf on Mar 23, 2016 4:01:05 GMT -5
It's the only time of the year they even know the IC title exists.
And yeah, it's still way too early for Owens/Zayn on the main roster. Then again, it wasn't a good idea to call him up to the main roster this close to
Wrestlemania anyway since a lot of people will want WWE to rush that match.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Mar 23, 2016 5:54:31 GMT -5
I always liked the ladder match at Wrestlemania with a ton of guys. Something about those Mania lights being on much brighter, and the crowd sounding so much louder popping for all the crazy spots. MITB was never the same once it got it's own PPV.
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Post by keezy on Mar 23, 2016 17:41:29 GMT -5
Can we just talk about how stupid this "wrestlemania payday" thing is? If you want to give people yearly bonuses, just give them to everybody and book the show in a way that makes sense. Don't book the show around a justification to give them bonuses. Don't the entrants in the Andre battle royal get the paycheck? I thought that was the reason for it. |
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Post by HisRoyalGreeness on Mar 23, 2016 18:20:46 GMT -5
Much like getting chocolate in my peanut butter, they got entire Midcard in my Zayn vs Owens. Only in this case the result is not as satisfying.
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 24, 2016 16:07:23 GMT -5
I dislike it because it comes off as lazy. You had a story complete with history that easily could have been recapped to the fans that didn't watch them in NXT. Instead, another multi-man clusterf***. It'll be a good match so whatever, but it's depressing and feels like a shortcut. What's the problem with this being a multi-man match? Not like we won't still get Owens vs. Zayn later. The IC Title should have a lot of guys going at each other for it, its supposed to be the second most important accomplishment in the company. Thanks to Ambrose and Owens, the Title is a lot more credible so it makes sense to have this kind of match. Why exactly is this a problem with the IC Title, yet people want it for the U.S. Title? ...None of these complaints make any sense..... They make a lot of sense though, you just don't agree. Try just saying that next time. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2016 16:26:18 GMT -5
I don't have an issue with this, per se, because it's either this for the performer or the big pile of suck that has Andre the Giant's name on it.
My issue is when you drag out random people for it that haven't been near that scene. I know Ryder, Sin Cara, and Stardust are good performers, but Monday was a testament to the fact that the commentators had to bite their lips and avoid saying "These goobers don't belong", which is what they were trying to do during that match. They're the Los Matadores of this WrestleMania; not appearing for months and suddenly having involvement in a title.
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