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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Apr 12, 2016 12:21:35 GMT -5
That's one of the sweetest moves I've ever seen, and the last ones I've seen from him were even more beautiful and devastating looking than ever
How the hell isn't that his finisher? Way more spectacular and brutal looking than the Helluva Kick
Also, can't Sami be the guy with 3 finishers (HK / BTB / Koji Clutch)? For suspense and stuff
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 12, 2016 12:23:31 GMT -5
I think the BTB should be an alternate finisher, just like how AJ has the Phenomenal Forearm (Should be Air Styles damn it!), the Styles Clash and the Calf Killer.
The wrestlers having multiple ways to finish a match is always a better way to go.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Apr 12, 2016 12:37:17 GMT -5
I love it but maybe the reason they don't want him to use it as a finisher is because of the similarities with Cena's spinout powerbomb or Crews' finisher.
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Post by Bear Skin Rug on Apr 12, 2016 13:01:02 GMT -5
It joins the Side Effect as the two near falls that never win, but the crowd always buys as a finish.
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Post by FinalGwen on Apr 12, 2016 13:18:49 GMT -5
I love it but maybe the reason they don't want him to use it as a finisher is because of the similarities with Cena's spinout powerbomb or Crews' finisher. If Cenas's move looked anything like a spinout powerbomb anymore, I might agree.  If I had to name it in his usual alliterative style (FU, STFU, etc) it'd be the WTF, because I have no idea what it's supposed to be any more. |
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Post by The Yes Man on Apr 12, 2016 13:23:31 GMT -5
It should definitely be the finisher, with the Helluva Kick as the set up.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Apr 12, 2016 13:41:42 GMT -5
I love it but maybe the reason they don't want him to use it as a finisher is because of the similarities with Cena's spinout powerbomb or Crews' finisher. If Cenas's move looked anything like a spinout powerbomb anymore, I might agree. If I had to name it in his usual alliterative style (FU, STFU, etc) it'd be the WTF, because I have no idea what it's supposed to be any more. At this point it really is just "I pick you up, I drop you" |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 12, 2016 13:56:29 GMT -5
I think because he uses it as his big "Momentum Shift" move.
He usually busts it out when he's being beaten badly and it's his big "hope spot".
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Apr 12, 2016 14:04:54 GMT -5
I think because he uses it as his big "Momentum Shift" move. He usually busts it out when he's being beaten badly and it's his big "hope spot". It is But why not interchange the HK and the BTB as "hope spot" / finisher? |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Apr 12, 2016 14:08:42 GMT -5
I think because he uses it as his big "Momentum Shift" move. He usually busts it out when he's being beaten badly and it's his big "hope spot". It is But why not interchange the HK and the BTB as "hope spot" / finisher? Because the BTB is a lot easier to use as a counter than the HK is. |
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Apr 12, 2016 14:12:00 GMT -5
It is But why not interchange the HK and the BTB as "hope spot" / finisher? Because the BTB is a lot easier to use as a counter than the HK is. Very true. Though at some point Sami is the type of guy who will need a good "out of no where" finisher. I guess he could straight up Yakuza in the middle of the ring, but that seems off. |
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Post by Lupin the Third on Apr 12, 2016 14:36:36 GMT -5
That's one of the sweetest moves I've ever seen, and the last ones I've seen from him were even more beautiful and devastating looking than ever How the hell isn't that his finisher? Way more spectacular and brutal looking than the Helluva Kick Also, can't Sami be the guy with 3 finishers (HK / BTB / Koji Clutch)? For suspense and stuff He should nail his opponent with the Helluva Kick, and then follow it up with the Blue Thunder Bomb. Hell, call it the Sami Bomb. |
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Post by Tom Turkey on Apr 12, 2016 14:50:21 GMT -5
The Helluva Kick should be a setup move leading up to the BTB (Sami does the kick, causing the guy to stumble, leading to the Blue Thunder Bomb finish). So basically, like how Seth Rollins did the turnbuckle powerbomb before the Curb Stomp.
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Post by bearned on Apr 12, 2016 15:09:57 GMT -5
I love the way Sami sells that move after he hits it - like he is absolutely positive it's going to get him the win and can't believe it when the guy kicks out.
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Post by sonofblaine on Apr 12, 2016 15:10:08 GMT -5
I'm glad they left the name. Thats just a great, real sounding wrestling move name. I'd have expected Cole to start jabbering about "He calls that the Zaney Buster!" "Ah, he's havin' fun, Maggle!"
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Post by Jobes on Apr 12, 2016 16:36:16 GMT -5
The good thing about a finisher is that it can legitimately be done on any opponent. The Helluva kick is a better finisher, but it wouldn't hurt for him to get a few wins with the BTB.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan on Apr 12, 2016 16:38:50 GMT -5
I like the idea of guys having three different possible finishers. A striking one, a slam/suplex/impact move, and a submission. It builds suspense in those big matches where you really don't know what move will truly end the match. It can make some wrestlers seem more versatile than they actually might be, and make good wrestlers look like amazing wrestlers who are able to adapt to any opponent.
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Post by Big Bad Kahuna on Apr 12, 2016 16:55:13 GMT -5
I like the idea of guys having three different possible finishers. A striking one, a slam/suplex/impact move, and a submission. It builds suspense in those big matches where you really don't know what move will truly end the match. It can make some wrestlers seem more versatile than they actually might be, and make good wrestlers look like amazing wrestlers who are able to adapt to any opponent. Yup, different types of psychology basically Taker had different finishers during his ABA phase Rock had the Elbow and the RB Jericho has the Codebreaker and the Walls Baron could use both his 2 huge slams as finisher, Asuka has the kick and the lock, Balor has 2 finishers atm...hope this trend continues |
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Post by horseface on Apr 12, 2016 17:22:02 GMT -5
Multiple finishers is the way WWE's in-ring style should progress. I've long believed this. They can keep their old 5-moves of doom style, just make it so that any of those moves can be the match's finishing spot. And maybe have a mega-finisher to bust out at special times. This would make every move matter more.
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If I had to name it in his usual alliterative style (FU, STFU, etc) it'd be the WTF, because I have no idea what it's supposed to be any more.
