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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 9, 2018 22:34:26 GMT -5
Thor: Ragnarok was a good movie, but I started to really hate the comedy. Because every single moment even approaching something cool had to be undercut with a gag. Nothing in Ragnarok felt like it meant anything, because all of the characters spent all of their time cracking wise about it all.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Mar 10, 2018 7:13:53 GMT -5
Thor: Ragnarok was a good movie, but I started to really hate the comedy. Because every single moment even approaching something cool had to be undercut with a gag. Nothing in Ragnarok felt like it meant anything, because all of the characters spent all of their time cracking wise about it all. Eh, I was still able to care about the characters in Ragnarok outside of the comedy. At no point did I feel like Thor or the Asgardians were okay with their home being wrecked by Hela. As for WHAT ARE THOOOOSE, it was a harmless throwaway bit that helped establish that side of Shuri's personality.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Mar 10, 2018 8:38:17 GMT -5
Thor: Ragnarok was a good movie, but I started to really hate the comedy. Because every single moment even approaching something cool had to be undercut with a gag. Nothing in Ragnarok felt like it meant anything, because all of the characters spent all of their time cracking wise about it all. I really like Marvel movies, but they do rely on Bathos a hell of a whole lot. Marvel's reliance on bathos is the reason why I'm glad T'Challa wasn't as arrogant in the movie than he comes off in the comics. This movie didn't need a peasy Tony Stark getting in the way of witty characters like Shuri and M'Baku. BTW Just Write's video on Black Panther put me on to the term bathos.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Mar 10, 2018 16:46:06 GMT -5
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Post by mattperiolat on Mar 12, 2018 0:30:13 GMT -5
The really nuts part is it’s really not losing much steam. With the move up of Infinity War, at minimum, it’ll still be at least in dollar theaters, still making money, when Infinity War opens. The question I’m waiting to see answered is will this lead to a more diverse audience coming back for more for Infinity War? I sure hope so.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 12, 2018 0:35:24 GMT -5
I saw it last week. I liked the movie, but I thought it had things I super didn't like. For some reason the CGI was really bad in this one, like way under the bar for a marvel movie. It showed incredibly bad when Killmonger and Black Panther had that "Falling through the air brawl" that looked like two shitty rag dolls flailing against one another.
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Post by HMARK Center on Mar 12, 2018 21:30:01 GMT -5
Saw it tonight, theater still had a solid number of people in it for a film this deep into release and on a Monday night.
I'd rank it in the upper echelon of MCU flicks; good cast, good script, solid stunt work, nice self-contained story, etc. The first half gave me a James Bond vibe that I wish they had kept up longer, to be honest.
Small complaints on the film itself: the editing was kind of off to me, like scenes were cutting away before whatever happened in them had a moment to breathe. Most complaints I would have with it are more a side effect of being part of a larger film universe: this one really felt like it would've worked spectacularly as a sequel in a self-contained world after an initial film that firmly establishes Wakanda and its people/environs/customs, but it ended up suffering a bit in the "we never really have the third act planned out well for these, so we'll just do a massive battle" way that a number of superhero movies these days do, where moments happen that would feel huge with more development behind them but in a standalone movie come off feeling a bit rushed. Made me wish it was its own property and not part of the MCU, because that made it feel a bit like "we could do something more personal and intense, but we need this conflict wrapped up because we need a reason for humanity to have vibranium weapons to fight Thanos with next month." Plus it had a couple of villains who felt like they could've supported a two-movie arc, so I was kind of sad to see them wrapped up so quickly.
Still, on a cultural level they hit a home run; they managed to make a film that clearly has an impact as an enormous black-led (acted, directed, crafted) blockbuster and handled the depiction of equatorial African culture beautifully, as the people helming it ensured it would feel authentic and real without coming off as pandering. Taken in isolation it's a pretty good superhero movie, but factoring in the attention to detail and the care with which the cultural aspects were handled gave it another layer of vibrancy that put it a cut above.
So yeah, in the final analysis it doesn't fix some of my MCU hangups (again, dug the vibe of the first half and wish they had kept more with that), but given the wider cultural impact it can have and is having I give them major credit, it really shined on that front.
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Post by chrom on Mar 25, 2018 16:41:01 GMT -5
Now the highest grossing Superhero movie of all time.
Until Infinity War that is...
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Post by Citizen Snips on Mar 25, 2018 16:48:12 GMT -5
Saw it again today, liked it just as much the second time. Hoping they put as many deleted scenes as possible on the DVD; hell, just release Coogler's first 4 hour cut!
And I think Infinity War's got the opening weekend title wrapped up, but I'm not sure it'll have as much staying power as Black Panther. May's got big releases every couple weeks, whereas this one basically had 2 months to itself. The staying power of Black Panther is going to be hard to top.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 25, 2018 18:36:28 GMT -5
Now the highest grossing Superhero movie of all time. Domestically, at least. It's still $170 million off Age of Ultron's worldwide gross, and $280 million behind The Avengers. I certainly wouldn't rule out it beating Age of Ultron and might even top Avengers, as it'll almost certainly stay in fairly wide release until Infinity War drops. Obviously, it's the highest-grossing solo superhero movie of all time. Try saying that ten years ago without being looked at like you're crazy.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 25, 2018 19:08:35 GMT -5
Saw it again today, liked it just as much the second time. Hoping they put as many deleted scenes as possible on the DVD; hell, just release Coogler's first 4 hour cut! And I think Infinity War's got the opening weekend title wrapped up, but I'm not sure it'll have as much staying power as Black Panther. May's got big releases every couple weeks, whereas this one basically had 2 months to itself. The staying power of Black Panther is going to be hard to top. Deadpool 2 comes out 2 weeks after Infinity War. By then, everyone will have seen the latter and Pool will take the top slot. Panther comin out in February helped it a bunch there
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Post by Ryushinku on Mar 26, 2018 6:43:15 GMT -5
It's quite something when a lot of people were excited and pegged this one as a real cultural break-out flick (along the lines of Wonder Woman) a long time in advance, and yet it's ended up blasting past all expectations even with that. What a monster.
I do think it means that Infinity War will have a fight on its hands, even if I think it'll open bigger. It'll need to hold at least decently well. Anything along the lines of Civil War drops instead and BP could keep that MCU domestic crown for years to come.
We can't just assume that T'Challa being in Infinity War means he'll carry all his audience with him. Because people thought that with Wondy in Justice League, and, well...mmm.
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Mar 26, 2018 10:47:49 GMT -5
It's quite something when a lot of people were excited and pegged this one as a real cultural break-out flick (along the lines of Wonder Woman) a long time in advance, and yet it's ended up blasting past all expectations even with that. What a monster. I do think it means that Infinity War will have a fight on its hands, even if I think it'll open bigger. It'll need to hold at least decently well. Anything along the lines of Civil War drops instead and BP could keep that MCU domestic crown for years to come. We can't just assume that T'Challa being in Infinity War means he'll carry all his audience with him. Because people thought that with Wondy in Justice League, and, well...mmm. Wondy alone can't wipe away the stench of Batman vs Superman
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Post by Savage Gambino on Mar 26, 2018 15:02:12 GMT -5
It's quite something when a lot of people were excited and pegged this one as a real cultural break-out flick (along the lines of Wonder Woman) a long time in advance, and yet it's ended up blasting past all expectations even with that. What a monster. I do think it means that Infinity War will have a fight on its hands, even if I think it'll open bigger. It'll need to hold at least decently well. Anything along the lines of Civil War drops instead and BP could keep that MCU domestic crown for years to come. We can't just assume that T'Challa being in Infinity War means he'll carry all his audience with him. Because people thought that with Wondy in Justice League, and, well...mmm. One thing Black Panther had going for it is that it went largely uncontested. Infinity War will have Deadpool 2 and the Han Solo movie to compete with in May. Infinity War probably won't hold the number one spot as long as Black Panther did, but I think they'll ultimately make more domestically. What I'm curious about is if Black Panther OR Infinity War is capable of dethroning Age of Ultron.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 26, 2018 15:12:28 GMT -5
What I'm curious about is if Black Panther OR Infinity War is capable of dethroning Age of Ultron. Realistically, at the current rate of drop off Black Panther will probably just be leaving theatres around the same time Infinity War comes out and make about another $50-60 million domestically. If that remains consistent around the world it should pass Age of Ultron. With all the hype, Infinity War should be looking at Jurassic World/Force Awakens numbers, even taking into consideration the competition.
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Post by Red Impact on Mar 27, 2018 22:12:18 GMT -5
I saw it the other day. It was in the upper half of solo Marvel movies to me, though it had some things I wasn't really a fan of either.
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Mar 30, 2018 18:36:16 GMT -5
The question on the back of my mind watching this was, "Hey Cap, since I am housing you and your buddy, help a brother out"
But I guess that would have made for a short movie.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 30, 2018 19:05:47 GMT -5
The question on the back of my mind watching this was, "Hey Cap, since I am housing you and your buddy, help a brother out" But I guess that would have made for a short movie. According to the Marvel timeline the events of Black Panther occur while Cap is busting his team out of the Raft.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Apr 10, 2018 3:09:14 GMT -5
Headed to DVD and Blu-ray next month.
Also, Black Panther surpassed Titanic over the weekend, with a total box office of $1.3 billion.
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