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Post by Some Baritone guy IS REDEEMED! on Jul 6, 2016 11:30:50 GMT -5
For me it's gotta be Misawa. All of his matches are pretty much exactly the same and 9 times out of 10 the finish is an elbow to the head, which he has thrown a truly ridiculous number of already.
A lot of his "5 star matches" Are really just stiff spot fests with absolutely no psychology or selling just a long sequence of them throwing big moves one right after the other and kicking out, which is something WWE gets a lot of crap for but when they did it in Japan it's a 5 star classic. I just don't get it.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 6, 2016 11:35:04 GMT -5
Kennedy
He looked like a cross between Crash Holly and Billy Gunn, and his gimmick consisted of nothing except yelling his name.
Yet people were comparing his mic work to the Rock, lol
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Post by TGM on Jul 6, 2016 11:45:37 GMT -5
The Legendary Chavo Guerrero.
I understand that you should hype your wrestlers, but f*** Chavo.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 6, 2016 12:01:51 GMT -5
The Legendary Chavo Guerrero. I understand that you should hype your wrestlers, but f*** Chavo. Really says it all that those hype packages contained Kurt Angle talking pretty much only about how great Eddie was... and that he has also wrestled Chavo  |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jul 6, 2016 12:59:54 GMT -5
The Legendary Chavo Guerrero. I understand that you should hype your wrestlers, but f*** Chavo. Jr or Sr? |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 6, 2016 13:58:15 GMT -5
I like Chavo, but they didn't do him favors with that shit in TNA.
I've never cared much for Hernandez. The Border Toss is probably the least safe finisher that has seen significant usage in mainstream American wrestling by a wide margin. He had size and... No, wait, those are all of his qualities.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 14:21:17 GMT -5
Shane Douglas.
He was a fat mid-carder imo. He was OK, I guess, in the very early 90s but didn't do anything special other than throwing the NWA belt in the ground. He is Mr 4/10.
Another one was Raven. I like him a lot, but I think most fans that say he should be WWE/WWF champion is delusional, sorry.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 6, 2016 14:28:12 GMT -5
Shane Douglas. He was a fat mid-carder imo. He was OK, I guess, in the very early 90s but didn't do anything special other than throwing the NWA belt in the ground. He is Mr 4/10. Another one was Raven. I like him a lot, but I think most fans that say he should be WWE/WWF champion is delusional, sorry. Everyone generally agrees about Douglas. And for Raven, maybe he shouldn't have been WWE/WWF Champion, but he still should've gotten better than lower card guy on Heat. |
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Post by edgestar on Jul 6, 2016 14:29:53 GMT -5
The Legendary Chavo Guerrero. I understand that you should hype your wrestlers, but f*** Chavo. Really says it all that those hype packages contained Kurt Angle talking pretty much only about how great Eddie was... and that he has also wrestled Chavo I'm at the bookstore, and just laughed so hard, I snorted |
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Post by Hanzo on Jul 6, 2016 14:38:55 GMT -5
Ken Kennedy and Justin Credible. I've always found them both really bland.
And I'm not trying to be 'that guy', but I'd have to say Dolph Ziggler too. I don't think he sucks or anything like that, but everybody's always hyped him up as a big deal and I've just never got it.
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Post by 543Y2J on Jul 6, 2016 14:50:04 GMT -5
Adam Pearce
Decent enough in the ring but nothing that is good - great - excellent unless in a multi man hardcore match. No personality or character to attach to either
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Jul 6, 2016 14:55:48 GMT -5
seriously Hulk Hogan, ever since I started watching wrestling as a kid he was just this big orange balding guy, acted like a big baby when he didn't get his way (Sid eliminated him from the Royal Rumble fair and square) there was always way more interesting people on the roster to me. Probably sounds like a case of "I hate him because he is popular" but as just never connected with him.
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Post by Raskovnik on Jul 6, 2016 15:27:33 GMT -5
The reason it was those matches are considered classics is because the matches did tell a story and did build on each other. A move that got the pinfall the first time would be reversed or be a near-fall next time, forcing them to up the ante. Eventually, power levels got too high and the matches got simply reckless as is the logical extension of that formula, but there was absolutely a logic and a story behind it.
Personally, as cool as I think that is, I don't know if I could say it was worth it because of the irreparable damage it did to the men involved and to the industry, because people would look at those matches and go "Huh, I'm going to do fifteen Burning Hammers in my throwaway match as a shortcut for actually wrestling a compelling match." That's why the Owens vs Big Match Jhon matches were nothing but f***ing video game exhibition matches, they weren't building on anything. There was no history between the two men, there weren't any prior matchups where this move or that move proved troublesome for either man thus forcing him to come up with a gameplan to counter it. They were just throwing out cool moves as a shortcut to that style. They didn't want to put in the work to earn it, they wanted to reap the rewards. It is finisher spam. That's why I personally shit on the WWE for it. The WWE style of booking, of being so f***ing terrified of letting one guy be the better man that night and then following through with it, as they've made losses to be something horribly shameful (even though some of the best fighters in history have clean losses which makes them all the more compelling), means they are simply locked out of this booking method as you NEED that psychology behind it for it to work. Psychology isn't really something the WWE does anymore. It's all go, go, go, because fans have shorter attention spans and if someone loses they're buried, etc.
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Post by Rudy Gobert Fadeaway on Jul 6, 2016 15:51:40 GMT -5
Drew Galloway, EC3, Dolph Ziggler, Mr. Kennedy, and Austin Aries have all nearly bored me to death at some point.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jul 6, 2016 16:00:17 GMT -5
Anybody whose career peaked in the original ECW.
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jul 6, 2016 16:12:29 GMT -5
MVP is the first guy that came to mind for me. Don't get me wrong I thought he was a solid enough wrestler and character, but I never got all the hype with people saying over the years saying that he should've been a main event player. Other then maybe being a filler title challenger on a secondary PPV every once in a while (against Orton as face in 2009 comes to mind), I just never thought he was good enough to be a main eventer on any kind of regular basis. Ridiculous losing streak aside I thought he was positioned about right his entire run, that being mid to upper midcard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2016 16:22:41 GMT -5
Konnan. I don't frickin' get him. Never have, probably never will.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jul 6, 2016 16:26:32 GMT -5
Goldberg. He's a monster heel except he's a face? I don't get it.
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Post by funakifan88 on Jul 6, 2016 16:59:43 GMT -5
Bobby Lashley. The headband doesn't help.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jul 6, 2016 17:02:55 GMT -5
Nothing Shane Douglas has done has ever interested me. Jarrett and JBL were way better at playing that kind of punchable heel.
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