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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 18, 2017 9:14:18 GMT -5
So about one of the post-credit scenes...now I am wondering, having fallen out of following the DCTVU, has Grant Gustin's Flash met their version of Superman at all? Cause that one PCS sounds like something the TV show would have done.
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Post by wakko on Nov 18, 2017 9:21:23 GMT -5
So about one of the post-credit scenes...now I am wondering, having fallen out of following the DCTVU, has Grant Gustin's Flash met their version of Superman at all? Cause that one PCS sounds like something the TV show would have done. No. TV Flash has not met Superman. I believe WB/DC won't let Superman appear on the TV shows. Could be wrong on that one. But I am certain about your question. Neither Green Arrow or Flash have met Superman.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 18, 2017 9:22:15 GMT -5
So about one of the post-credit scenes...now I am wondering, having fallen out of following the DCTVU, has Grant Gustin's Flash met their version of Superman at all? Cause that one PCS sounds like something the TV show would have done. No. TV Flash has not met Superman. I believe WB/DC won't let Superman appear on the TV shows. Could be wrong on that one. But I am certain about your question. Neither Green Arrow or Flash have met Superman. He was on Supergirl.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Nov 18, 2017 9:43:23 GMT -5
No. TV Flash has not met Superman. I believe WB/DC won't let Superman appear on the TV shows. Could be wrong on that one. But I am certain about your question. Neither Green Arrow or Flash have met Superman. He was on Supergirl. On a side note, slightly surprised Superman isn't in the upcoming 4 show crossover coming up. Probably couldn't dot the is and cross the ts to arrange it but still seems weird.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Nov 18, 2017 10:38:45 GMT -5
No. TV Flash has not met Superman. I believe WB/DC won't let Superman appear on the TV shows. Could be wrong on that one. But I am certain about your question. Neither Green Arrow or Flash have met Superman. He was on Supergirl. Yeah, he appeared in 4 or 5 episodes last season played by Tyler Hoechlin to very good reviews. Probably the best live action Superman portrayal since Reeve
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Nov 18, 2017 11:54:13 GMT -5
I do wish Junkie XL had stayed on because I thought Danny Elfman's score was very generic
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Post by Citizen Snips on Nov 18, 2017 12:34:36 GMT -5
Box Office Mojo now has it tracking for under a $100 million opening weekend.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Nov 18, 2017 12:41:29 GMT -5
About to go see it now.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Nov 18, 2017 13:50:26 GMT -5
Fair enough, but at the same time, there has to be some form of accountability for critics bashing the general audience with their opinions as if they're a fact. Whatever happened to allowing people to make up their own minds? Whatever happened to taking a critic's opinion as just that - an opinion? The top critics have to go through years of training to be able to effectively critique the objective experience of a movie, like the technical aspects, quality of the writing, the structure, etc. That's the foundation of a critical review, with the subjective issue of whether they enjoyed it being built on top. Many of the movies I've enjoyed most are objectively bad movies. Transformers: The Movie is probably my ultimate guilty pleasure, despite its generic storyline and hackneyed script, and it quite rightly got slaughtered by critics. But Subjectively I still love it, because I enjoy it and can overlook its flaws. Equally, movies like Jaws, Casablanca, and Citizen Kane bore the crap out of me. Objectively I recognise the craft that has gone into making these movies, and they're obviously great movies, but they do nothing for me subjectively. The problem with critics nowadays is that any dumbass fanboy with a blog or a YouTube channel who gets enough followers can be considered influential, and a good number of those get by less on technical knowledge and more on being entertaining characters. Those are the kinds of critics I avoid, because that's where agendas tend to hide. You said it better than I could've. That's the point I was trying to make. Those individuals need to be held accountable in my opinion. Not saying they should be scorned, insulted, or done away with. But their "influential views" need to be called out on and not be allowed to spread in a massive way. From my perspective I enjoyed Justice League. I thought it was amazing and doesn't deserve the low score, bad reviews, etc that it's been receiving. But I am not going to beat anyone over the head who doesn't agree with me and if someone told me they didn't like the movie, provided their reasons, and it makes sense to me then so be it. Even if they just flat out hated it and didn't give a reason so be it. But I feel agenda driven reviews need to be called out more.
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Nov 18, 2017 14:25:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 15:43:33 GMT -5
Box Office Mojo now has it tracking for under a $100 million dollar opening weekend. And this is the biggest problem with Justice League even in the face of it really not being bad - between the fact they already had the Trinity onscreen together in Batman vs. Superman, them not bothering to build the other three as entities worth seeing before throwing the group together, and the negative reaction to most of the movies before them, they've shot themselves in the foot hard and turned it from their Avengers into their Amazing Spider-Man 2.
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Post by Fade on Nov 18, 2017 15:44:06 GMT -5
Man, I really hope Darksied doesn't end up looking like Steppenwolf. Thanos is looking good so far, but Steppenwolf looked so shitty and felt like a shallow character. I hope they get a really good actor to at least lend the voice/do the motion capture.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Nov 18, 2017 15:45:15 GMT -5
I thought this was common knowledge by now. Personally I think they shouldn't have bothered with CGI and just clutch cargo'd it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 15:54:19 GMT -5
Box Office Mojo now has it tracking for under a $100 million dollar opening weekend. And this is the biggest problem with Justice League even in the face of it really not being bad - between the fact they already had the Trinity onscreen together in Batman vs. Superman, them not bothering to build the other three as entities worth seeing before throwing the group together, and the negative reaction to most of the movies before them, they've shot themselves in the foot hard and turned it from their Avengers into their Amazing Spider-Man 2. ouch that's bad. I know i sound like a broken record but just scrap everything and make a Wonder Woman trilogy
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Post by The Ichi on Nov 18, 2017 15:58:19 GMT -5
Whatever happened to taking a critic's opinion as just that - an opinion? The top critics have to go through years of training to be able to effectively critique the objective experience of a movie, like the technical aspects, quality of the writing, the structure, etc. That's the foundation of a critical review, with the subjective issue of whether they enjoyed it being built on top. Many of the movies I've enjoyed most are objectively bad movies. Transformers: The Movie is probably my ultimate guilty pleasure, despite its generic storyline and hackneyed script, and it quite rightly got slaughtered by critics. But Subjectively I still love it, because I enjoy it and can overlook its flaws. Equally, movies like Jaws, Casablanca, and Citizen Kane bore the crap out of me. Objectively I recognise the craft that has gone into making these movies, and they're obviously great movies, but they do nothing for me subjectively. The problem with critics nowadays is that any dumbass fanboy with a blog or a YouTube channel who gets enough followers can be considered influential, and a good number of those get by less on technical knowledge and more on being entertaining characters. Those are the kinds of critics I avoid, because that's where agendas tend to hide. You said it better than I could've. That's the point I was trying to make. Those individuals need to be held accountable in my opinion. Not saying they should be scorned, insulted, or done away with. But their "influential views" need to be called out on and not be allowed to spread in a massive way. From my perspective I enjoyed Justice League. I thought it was amazing and doesn't deserve the low score, bad reviews, etc that it's been receiving. But I am not going to beat anyone over the head who doesn't agree with me and if someone told me they didn't like the movie, provided their reasons, and it makes sense to me then so be it. Even if they just flat out hated it and didn't give a reason so be it. But I feel agenda driven reviews need to be called out more. You're acting like they're cult leaders or something. I mean yeah, there are definitely some reviewers too far up their own behinds, but at the end of the day that's all they are. If someone's opinion is influenced by them, that's their problem.
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Post by ltcproductions on Nov 18, 2017 17:02:43 GMT -5
I'm at the theater now. During the scene where Wonder Woman explains Steppenwolf's backstory, the film broke.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Nov 18, 2017 17:44:52 GMT -5
Box Office Mojo now has it tracking for under a $100 million opening weekend. Forbes has it tracking somewhere between $85-90 million. Anything less than $100 million is a disaster and an embarrassment for WB-DC.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 18, 2017 17:51:07 GMT -5
Looks like the overseas market is going have to carry the film
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Post by Citizen Snips on Nov 18, 2017 17:52:35 GMT -5
It's doing slightly better overseas but not setting the world on fire and it's already hit 67 markets. Considering how much China absolutely loathed Dawn of Justice, WB shouldn't expect a miracle.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2017 17:56:53 GMT -5
Box Office Mojo now has it tracking for under a $100 million opening weekend. Forbes has it tracking somewhere between $85-90 million. Anything less than $100 million is a disaster and an embarrassment for WB-DC. The idea that Justice League is doing worse than Wonder Woman to begin with, which didn't have near the initial hype of the others and had to instead rely on good word of mouth to let it make solid gains later, is bad, but yeah, this'd put it doing under half what the first Avengers did in its opening weekend. No matter how you slice it that's disastrous.
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