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Post by chronocross on Sept 11, 2016 8:02:15 GMT -5
Booker T, MVP, Stevie Ray and Bruce Prichard commenting on the fight. Booker T with the realness. Ah Stevie Ray. Your Harlem Heat Promos are still gold(i'm stealing the squeeze.) And Booker with the hard truth as always. I liked Stevie Ray's "he put the squeeze on him" while trying to keep back the laughter, MVP was supportive of his friend and Booker keeping it real about Punk's future.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Sept 11, 2016 8:04:21 GMT -5
I was looking at reddit and the majority of people on r/squaredcircle are shitting on/laughing at Punk and the majority of people r/mma are praising Punk for even trying it. I just think it's interesting seeing what a lot of MMA fans think of the fight compared to wrestling fans. Or at least the hardcore internet fans anyway. Indeed I'm trying to figure out how that part of the MMA fandom, which normally has the reputation of being arrogant dudebros who'd look down their nose at anything wrestling related, became more generous and pragmatic than that part of the wrestling fandom, which just seems to be going to town on Punk's failure (but don't dare that BIG BAD WWE make fun of him). ?(joking....mostly....like, 98% joking )
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Post by BRV on Sept 11, 2016 8:17:12 GMT -5
That was what everybody expected really. The whole appeal of this was to watch him get his ass beat. maybe for you. I didn't expect him to win or anything...but I watched because this guy walked away from the sport that made him rich and famous to chase a dream. And I respect the everloving shit out of that. My dream is to play in the NFL, but since I don't have name recognition like CM Punk, I'll never get that opportunity. But much like Punk, if I ever did get the chance, you can be assured that I'd get my s**t rocked and I'd look like a huge, embarrassing failure. Just because he's famous enough to get a bout he doesn't deserve doesn't mean he should go for it.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Sept 11, 2016 8:24:01 GMT -5
maybe for you. I didn't expect him to win or anything...but I watched because this guy walked away from the sport that made him rich and famous to chase a dream. And I respect the everloving shit out of that. My dream is to play in the NFL, but since I don't have name recognition like CM Punk, I'll never get that opportunity. But much like Punk, if I ever did get the chance, you can be assured that I'd get my s**t rocked and I'd look like a huge, embarrassing failure. Just because he's famous enough to get a bout he doesn't deserve doesn't mean he should go for it. I disagree. Completely. Life is too f***ing short, man. As long as you're not breaking any laws or otherwise hurting innocent people, chase/follow/attack your dreams, man. You wanna play in the NFL? Go to an open combine in the spring (some colleges actually have public combines after their players show off for the scouts) and get your name out there. You're right, you don't have the name recognition that Phil Brooks has with the "CM Punk" name....but, play the hand you're dealt and chase your dreams. f*** what other people think. Do it.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Sept 11, 2016 8:29:01 GMT -5
Punk is a douchebag, he deserved that beating. Dude had a cup of tea in the octagon and thought he could compete, when even the worst fighters would destroy him. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.
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Post by Fuji's racist salt on Sept 11, 2016 8:31:57 GMT -5
Punk is a douchebag, he deserved that beating. Dude had a cup of tea in the octagon and thought he could compete, when even the worst fighters would destroy him. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy. Did Punk shit in your strawberries?
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 11, 2016 8:32:23 GMT -5
Punk moved toward Gall like a video game character. Like, if you just hold the trigger right on the UFC video game, that's exactly how the character would move. It's a product of inexperience. Having enough to know, mechanically, how stuff should look but not understanding the right contexts to use it in. He's moving forward in this idea of a very tight stance because that's what he's been taught but he doesn't understand that Mickey's too far out to hit him so there's no need to be that tight the whole time. It's the same thing in his open workout. He gets his hooks in on his opponent, rolls the wrong way to try and take his back and goes for a choke. But he doesn't put the other hook in. Then, when he goes to get the choke he finally puts the hook in. Because he knows what it's supposed to look like. He's seen rear naked chokes before, and maybe done a couple. But he doesn't have the experience to understand why those hooks are there. I don't know how in two years you don't learn that, but I don't know, that's the feeling I have. I worry his training team didn't correct him the way they should have sometimes. I just wondered something similar in the ppv thread: Was he being honest with himself as to what his skill level actually is vs what it would need to be to be in the UFC? And worse, was no one on his training team being similarly honest with him about where he was at/what it actually takes. Because for me, and I think many, that's the takeaway from all of this. It's not so much-"he was awful" as it's just very clear that the gulf in skill levels between him and a relative newcomer like Gall.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Sept 11, 2016 8:37:17 GMT -5
Punk is a douchebag, he deserved that beating. Dude had a cup of tea in the octagon and thought he could compete, when even the worst fighters would destroy him. Couldn't happen to a more deserving guy. Did Punk shit in your strawberries? No, but at least I'm not dumb enough to go into a sport dominated by 20's-early 30's athletes who have been doing MMA for YEARS at age 38 thinking he can step in at the highest level. Plus welcome to the Internet, I'm allowed an opinion. And that is mine.
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Post by Wrestling Curmudgeon on Sept 11, 2016 8:38:24 GMT -5
It's a product of inexperience. Having enough to know, mechanically, how stuff should look but not understanding the right contexts to use it in. He's moving forward in this idea of a very tight stance because that's what he's been taught but he doesn't understand that Mickey's too far out to hit him so there's no need to be that tight the whole time. It's the same thing in his open workout. He gets his hooks in on his opponent, rolls the wrong way to try and take his back and goes for a choke. But he doesn't put the other hook in. Then, when he goes to get the choke he finally puts the hook in. Because he knows what it's supposed to look like. He's seen rear naked chokes before, and maybe done a couple. But he doesn't have the experience to understand why those hooks are there. I don't know how in two years you don't learn that, but I don't know, that's the feeling I have. I worry his training team didn't correct him the way they should have sometimes. I just wondered something similar in the ppv thread: Was he being honest with himself as to what his skill level actually is vs what it would need to be to be in the UFC? And worse, was no one on his training team being similarly honest with him about where he was at/what it actually takes. Because for me, and I think many, that's the takeaway from all of this. It's not so much-"he was awful" as it's just very clear that the gulf in skill levels between him and a relative newcomer like Gall. Whoever told him he could compete in this arena with that caliber an athlete after training for such a short time is completely IRRESPONSIBLE.
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Sept 11, 2016 8:38:32 GMT -5
Gotta give it to him for putting the younger dude over. "MAKE HIM LOOK STRONG!"
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 11, 2016 8:46:28 GMT -5
My ultimate impression here is that Phil Brooks was not aiming to have a full time career in UFC, but he loves the sport and being able to say he had even a single PPV fight in the UFC was a longtime dream of his. Well, mission accomplished and he even made some moolah doing it. One item off the bucket list, good for him and he probably doesn't care about much else.
On that same note, while I may not have his fame or wealth, at least I woke up this morning and didn't feel like I'd been hit by a mac truck and also secure in the knowledge that I did not get made to look like a total fool on national television. Good for me, one more item I didn't need on my bucket list.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Sept 11, 2016 8:51:06 GMT -5
Man, if you told me that I could come in and play guitar for Pink Floyd despite having only ever been in small bands and recorded at home or gigged with friends, especially with a pay cheque that big, you bet your ass I would do it.
Punk got his ass kicked and embarrassed for two minutes for what was presumably a sum in the low seven figures, if not high six. His family's security has never been more assured, and he doesn't care what anybody thinks of him outside of those he actually cares about himself. He did exactly what I would do in an equivalent situation.
I have always been ambivalent towards Punk, the man, as opposed to as a talent, but for all the questionable circumstances and motives involved here I can see a bit of myself in what he chose to do. I was originally looking forward to laughing my ass off at his failure, but now, honestly, I respect him a little bit more.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Sept 11, 2016 8:53:46 GMT -5
Punk: "I've been training hard for two years...I'm ready for this, right?" Trainer:
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Post by SCCB Was Told To Do Steroids on Sept 11, 2016 8:54:03 GMT -5
It's a product of inexperience. Having enough to know, mechanically, how stuff should look but not understanding the right contexts to use it in. He's moving forward in this idea of a very tight stance because that's what he's been taught but he doesn't understand that Mickey's too far out to hit him so there's no need to be that tight the whole time. It's the same thing in his open workout. He gets his hooks in on his opponent, rolls the wrong way to try and take his back and goes for a choke. But he doesn't put the other hook in. Then, when he goes to get the choke he finally puts the hook in. Because he knows what it's supposed to look like. He's seen rear naked chokes before, and maybe done a couple. But he doesn't have the experience to understand why those hooks are there. I don't know how in two years you don't learn that, but I don't know, that's the feeling I have. I worry his training team didn't correct him the way they should have sometimes. probably blanked out. like studying for a test then the you blank out. I felt that it was a bad rookie mistake to close too quickly. Once Gall shot, it was over. It looked like Punk tried to stop him with a knee, but it was too late.
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Post by Diamond Cutter Out of Nowhere! on Sept 11, 2016 9:09:39 GMT -5
Pro Wrestling fans seem to be holding onto some salt about Punk and really wanted to see him lose. Personally I was hoping he would win so he could come back to WWE and have Vince give him the world like he has Brock.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 11, 2016 9:15:50 GMT -5
Punk wanted to be in UFC.
He looked more like he was in the Brawl for All.
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Post by Hurbster on Sept 11, 2016 9:17:40 GMT -5
I'm old enough to remember when Punk was the best in the world.
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Post by Lancers on Sept 11, 2016 9:21:20 GMT -5
CM Punk vs. Kurt Angle at Bellator. That'll put butts in the seats.
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Post by The Tank on Sept 11, 2016 9:23:06 GMT -5
So, sorry to be a dick, but every thread on this is like 10 pages and I'm in a rush.
Did he get his ass kicked right quick, or did he actually put up a fight?
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Post by Perfect Timing on Sept 11, 2016 9:32:46 GMT -5
Punk will be like that guy who failed his driving test and keeps trying again and failing and refuses to admit driving just isn't for him.
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