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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 27, 2016 20:10:32 GMT -5
and on top of that he hasn't been a interesting character in most people eyes. Absolutely not true. Can this thread be about B2K instead? Took 2 Months, but you got what you wanted... a bump, bump, bump.
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Post by Perfect Timing on Nov 27, 2016 20:23:18 GMT -5
Owens and his big belly have no business in the Main Event scene. He's a great midcarder though.
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Nov 27, 2016 22:08:28 GMT -5
RAW is damaged goods. It doesn't matter who is the champion, as long as the Emasculator is there and everyone has to grovel to her instead of being... you know... a real heel, no one gets over.
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Post by ronin705 on Nov 27, 2016 23:24:38 GMT -5
I would say yes and no. Yes in the sense that people are moreso looking to him and jericho feuding than him having the title. No because he still works promos well, and is a solid hand.
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Post by Sicho100 on Nov 27, 2016 23:58:57 GMT -5
It's been two months. And you're still wrong. And you ignored everyone's arguments, dismissed any facts presented. So what was even the point of making this thread? Or bringing it back? What facts that he and Jericho are doing comedy segments is not getting viewers, the fact that Owens has no agency as the champ, the fact that there is no good reason for KO should be champ other than Uncle HHH came in to help him. I think those facts are helping my case and the past 2 months with KO's big move his powerbomb to the apron is so serve that it takes weeks off your career him being DQed in Survivor Series using the dumbass list. At this point have Goldberg beat Owens in a squach match for the belt have him and Lesnar fight at Royal Rumble for the title and have Reigns win the Rumble match and then have all 3 fight fot the all red everything belt at Mania and have Reigns win. There you get more eyes on the product and you give the rub to your next guy up which is going to he Reigns. Now I know you guys don't like that but what else is there to do as Owens is not important right now the Kevin Owens show needs to be cancelled Wait, you make a thread saying Owens is damaged goods, then say they would be better off running with Reigns? If anyone is in the "Damaged Goods" camp, it's Roman Reigns.
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Post by Dukect on Nov 28, 2016 0:21:12 GMT -5
What facts that he and Jericho are doing comedy segments is not getting viewers, the fact that Owens has no agency as the champ, the fact that there is no good reason for KO should be champ other than Uncle HHH came in to help him. I think those facts are helping my case and the past 2 months with KO's big move his powerbomb to the apron is so serve that it takes weeks off your career him being DQed in Survivor Series using the dumbass list. At this point have Goldberg beat Owens in a squach match for the belt have him and Lesnar fight at Royal Rumble for the title and have Reigns win the Rumble match and then have all 3 fight fot the all red everything belt at Mania and have Reigns win. There you get more eyes on the product and you give the rub to your next guy up which is going to he Reigns. Now I know you guys don't like that but what else is there to do as Owens is not important right now the Kevin Owens show needs to be cancelled Wait, you make a thread saying Owens is damaged goods, then say they would be better off running with Reigns? If anyone is in the "Damaged Goods" camp, it's Roman Reigns. Well according to some google analytics it seems that that would do some good as Reigns does have more play than Owens and Rollins Hell how about have Regins turn heel and then kill off Goldberg and Lesnar and then have say Big E taking him on at Summer Slam the next year how bout that you would take that right
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Post by Super Duper Dragunov on Nov 28, 2016 7:02:40 GMT -5
I just wish the dude would get in better shape. I don't want CENAHULKMUSCLESRAWRRRRR! but he at least needs to be in the shape he was when he debuted. I'm actually amazed with Vince's fetish for muscles that he even put the title on him.
Outside of looking nine months pregnant, the writing (as we all know) is atrocious on Raw. Hell on SDL they have had AJ and Ellsworth doing magic working with next to nothing by playing to the strengths of their characters. Raw doesn't do that. Sure the comedy segments with KO/Jericho are great, but imagine if the roles were reversed and it was Jericho handed the title by HHH, and Owens as his sidekick and you were waiting for Owens to turn on him and eventually/finally get his shot at a World Title in WWE. I think the dynamic would be much more interesting. But that could just be me.
At the very least we needed some kind of story progression with HHH. Even a pre-taped promo...something.... and Rollins face turn is anything but.
I want the dude to be more than proficient worker that is good on the mic. I want him to look and walk, and act like a champion. Not damaged, but needs some tweaking.
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Post by isink on Nov 28, 2016 7:20:19 GMT -5
Are more people buying the network?
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Post by segaz on Nov 28, 2016 13:22:49 GMT -5
Popping a rating isn't the responsibility of one person anymore. Wrestling isn't as hot and it's because of PG. Yeah, everyone agrees Tetley is better, but what can you do? It's market saturation
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Post by Gus Richlen: Ruffian on Nov 28, 2016 23:38:22 GMT -5
After tonight, despite the loss, I'd say no. If the Owens/Y2J split is for good, it'll be a huge help for him.
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Post by y4j1981 on Nov 29, 2016 12:10:52 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 12:36:15 GMT -5
As much as I find the Kevin Owens and Jericho stuff entertaining, I wouldn't mind a split at this point. Kevin Owens has always worked best whenever he's on a edge or has some kind of chip on his shoulder.
Like yeah the pairing could of worked but Owens has been over shadowed by Jericho, The List of Jericho, Scarves, Stephanie McMahon, HHH, which is a terrible way to build up the prestige of a new world championship belt where this reign is the default first championship reign. And in some weird way I feel like a little blame is on Owens for acting really complacent with it.
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