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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 31, 2016 18:04:12 GMT -5
What's this about the Nazis and Bob Ryder being in the booking comitee? Also lol at Dixie now only 5 percent sug. Your days are coming to an end Not really. At the end of the day she still gets the control or seem like she has control which is what she wants. They are essentially giving her what she wants |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 31, 2016 18:07:20 GMT -5
I took it as he wanted all of Dixie's bullshit to part of public record. What exactly did we learn that we didn't already know? I mean anything that matters. He paid a lawyer probably a considerable sum of money to go through thousands of TNA documents -- which have not been made public -- and to prepare and present his case so we could learn ... that TNA has a ton of debt? I think we figured that out when they moved the office to a junkyard. What I learned was that Billy isn't qualified to run a major company because he poured a ton of money into TNA with the idea that he could somehow end up with control of a company that he argues is completely insolvent, and couldn't even pull that off because he didn't bother ot hire a lawyer (or lawyers, who drew up his contract) who understood the law in the very state where he sued. Because even if he ended up losing on a legal technicality, he was still able to expose Dixie on a massive stage. It's not just "TNA has a lot of debt", it's that TNA is run by manipulative liars who took advantage of him, gave him a position of power they refused to actually respect and stonewalled him out of actually performing, lied to him about the actual amount of debt the company had during crunch time so they could get his money, and then made moves behind his back and shittalked him the whole way. He may not be able to have the company, but he has set the stage to show that Dixie Carter is a terrible person to do business with while absolving himself of the wrongdoing the company committed with him at the helm. If he couldn't actually win, he at least managed to score some kind of win on a moral level on his way out, and if he has plans to take up his own promotion and try to tempt guys away from TNA he's now on a much firmer ground to do so with the dirty laundry all aired as it is. It's the next best thing to actually winning to shut Dixie down. |
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Post by Gecko on Oct 31, 2016 18:08:43 GMT -5
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Post by Jessica Cadavre on Oct 31, 2016 18:23:27 GMT -5
I wonder what will almost kill TNA next!
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Oct 31, 2016 18:27:44 GMT -5
Somebody keep all sharp objects away from this man. All that failure is dangerous. CJB01 DEATHWATCH THREAD, PG. 76 UPDATE: MORALE IS HIGH!! Moderators recommend avoiding further exposure to bullshit, three hours minimum |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 31, 2016 18:42:18 GMT -5
What exactly did we learn that we didn't already know? I mean anything that matters. He paid a lawyer probably a considerable sum of money to go through thousands of TNA documents -- which have not been made public -- and to prepare and present his case so we could learn ... that TNA has a ton of debt? I think we figured that out when they moved the office to a junkyard. What I learned was that Billy isn't qualified to run a major company because he poured a ton of money into TNA with the idea that he could somehow end up with control of a company that he argues is completely insolvent, and couldn't even pull that off because he didn't bother ot hire a lawyer (or lawyers, who drew up his contract) who understood the law in the very state where he sued. Because even if he ended up losing on a legal technicality, he was still able to expose Dixie on a massive stage. It's not just "TNA has a lot of debt", it's that TNA is run by manipulative liars who took advantage of him, gave him a position of power they refused to actually respect and stonewalled him out of actually performing, lied to him about the actual amount of debt the company had during crunch time so they could get his money, and then made moves behind his back and shittalked him the whole way. He may not be able to have the company, but he has set the stage to show that Dixie Carter is a terrible person to do business with while absolving himself of the wrongdoing the company committed with him at the helm. If he couldn't actually win, he at least managed to score some kind of win on a moral level on his way out, and if he has plans to take up his own promotion and try to tempt guys away from TNA he's now on a much firmer ground to do so with the dirty laundry all aired as it is. It's the next best thing to actually winning to shut Dixie down. Not to mention as stated earlier that it is on public record that TNA is insolvent. |
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Post by Aya Reiko on Oct 31, 2016 18:50:48 GMT -5
What exactly did we learn that we didn't already know? I mean anything that matters. He paid a lawyer probably a considerable sum of money to go through thousands of TNA documents -- which have not been made public -- and to prepare and present his case so we could learn ... that TNA has a ton of debt? I think we figured that out when they moved the office to a junkyard. What I learned was that Billy isn't qualified to run a major company because he poured a ton of money into TNA with the idea that he could somehow end up with control of a company that he argues is completely insolvent, and couldn't even pull that off because he didn't bother ot hire a lawyer (or lawyers, who drew up his contract) who understood the law in the very state where he sued. Because even if he ended up losing on a legal technicality, he was still able to expose Dixie on a massive stage. It's not just "TNA has a lot of debt", it's that TNA is run by manipulative liars who took advantage of him, gave him a position of power they refused to actually respect and stonewalled him out of actually performing, lied to him about the actual amount of debt the company had during crunch time so they could get his money, and then made moves behind his back and shittalked him the whole way. He may not be able to have the company, but he has set the stage to show that Dixie Carter is a terrible person to do business with while absolving himself of the wrongdoing the company committed with him at the helm. If he couldn't actually win, he at least managed to score some kind of win on a moral level on his way out, and if he has plans to take up his own promotion and try to tempt guys away from TNA he's now on a much firmer ground to do so with the dirty laundry all aired as it is. It's the next best thing to actually winning to shut Dixie down. It also let's him say "c'ya morons" still on the sinking ship when all the other lawsuits and tax liens come to roost. And considering most of them were loyal to Corgan and not to Dixie, it wouldn't surprise me if the performers and stage crew will just tell where Dixie can shove it as soon as they can. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 31, 2016 18:58:55 GMT -5
Because even if he ended up losing on a legal technicality, he was still able to expose Dixie on a massive stage. It's not just "TNA has a lot of debt", it's that TNA is run by manipulative liars who took advantage of him, gave him a position of power they refused to actually respect and stonewalled him out of actually performing, lied to him about the actual amount of debt the company had during crunch time so they could get his money, and then made moves behind his back and shittalked him the whole way. He may not be able to have the company, but he has set the stage to show that Dixie Carter is a terrible person to do business with while absolving himself of the wrongdoing the company committed with him at the helm. If he couldn't actually win, he at least managed to score some kind of win on a moral level on his way out, and if he has plans to take up his own promotion and try to tempt guys away from TNA he's now on a much firmer ground to do so with the dirty laundry all aired as it is. It's the next best thing to actually winning to shut Dixie down. Not to mention as stated earlier that it is on public record that TNA is insolvent. The insolvency was sort of blown when after he filed suit, everyone else came out of the woodwork looking to collect and basically creating a "No f***ing shit" situation where it was clear they were in intense debt every which way and compounded all the existing financial issues we already knew about. But basically salting the earth as far as killing Dixie Carter's claim to being a good businesswoman or of TNA being a trustworthy company worth getting involved in was something only he ever had the power to do. |
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Post by Father Dougal McGuire on Oct 31, 2016 19:27:38 GMT -5
Maybe I am reading it wrong, but isn't the lawsuit still ongoing? The only thing that was thrown out is the restraining order.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 31, 2016 19:28:49 GMT -5
I wonder what will almost kill TNA next! I got a feeling it's going to take something catastrophically bad where the authorities will step in and kill it. I just really hope nobody dies. God that's morbid. I should feel bad... but it's scary that I really don't think my guess is that outlandish. |
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Post by BorneAgain on Oct 31, 2016 19:30:09 GMT -5
After hearing the endless talk of TNA on the verge of death for the past 10 years with everybody constantly saying there were on the verge of being done, I am terribly amused by the frustration and bafflement displayed at its refusal to die. I'm half convinced Dixie's keeping it in existence just to spite every critic she's ever had.
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Post by saintpat on Oct 31, 2016 19:37:11 GMT -5
Because even if he ended up losing on a legal technicality, he was still able to expose Dixie on a massive stage. It's not just "TNA has a lot of debt", it's that TNA is run by manipulative liars who took advantage of him, gave him a position of power they refused to actually respect and stonewalled him out of actually performing, lied to him about the actual amount of debt the company had during crunch time so they could get his money, and then made moves behind his back and shittalked him the whole way. He may not be able to have the company, but he has set the stage to show that Dixie Carter is a terrible person to do business with while absolving himself of the wrongdoing the company committed with him at the helm. If he couldn't actually win, he at least managed to score some kind of win on a moral level on his way out, and if he has plans to take up his own promotion and try to tempt guys away from TNA he's now on a much firmer ground to do so with the dirty laundry all aired as it is. It's the next best thing to actually winning to shut Dixie down. Not to mention as stated earlier that it is on public record that TNA is insolvent. No, it's not. Read the story on The Tennesseean website -- the local newspaper that covered the trial -- not just the tweets. The judge ruled that the term "insolvent" is ambiguous: in short, it has no clear meaning legally, at least in Tennessee. Which is another naive (to put it kindly) error on Billy's part, to have terms of a contract rely on a term that can't be legally established in court, rather than use specific language which could have been proved. As far as "he proved Dixie lied" post, he certainly alleged it. She probably did. And the fact that her company has tanked (whether legally solvent or not) will certainly keep other investors and suitors away, but it didn't keep Billy from wanting the company, nor Aroluxe nor the Fight Network folks. I can't recall what she said at any point about talks with WWE, but I'd have to see exact wording AND the documents about whatever talks took place to see if it was an outright lie -- in business, there are TONS of situations that come up where one side (in this case possibly WWE) asks the other to not reveal talks or negotiations, and no business person would look at someone doing that as a "LAIR who can't be trusted to do business." In fact, they would understand that such things are part of business. If you really think that people or companies won't do business with those who "lie" sometimes -- by not being forthcoming about financial facts, painting a rosy picture when in fact things are a real mess, but not revealing to three or four different parties that they're negotiating with all of them secretly to choose the best deal -- then you have a lot to learn about business. Ask yourself this: Do you really think Billy believed Dixie was an honest person and that all those people not getting paid, the company moving its offices to a junkyard, the repeated "OMG are they really going to pull off their tapings this time" weren't an indication of serious financial difficulties? That she said, "Honest, Sug, we've got the money, those people who say they aren't getting paid are just being silly" and he bought it? Yet Billy was quite willing to enter this quagmire. So the idea that something has changed and that now, for the first time ever, we now TNA really was in financial trouble, is kind of a stretch. I mean, haven't these multiple-times-a-year threads about the Impending Death of TNA given us a pretty good clue about the reality of the situation? |
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Post by Hot Noodle Truck on Oct 31, 2016 19:45:34 GMT -5
It's extremely fitting that the shuffling corpse of this company rises again on Halloween. I'm almost certain that Dixie will survive past the end of time at this point.
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Post by Shark on Oct 31, 2016 19:59:35 GMT -5
So Mike Bennett's career is dead right?
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Post by Chiral on Oct 31, 2016 20:00:39 GMT -5
Is there a "Then Now Forever" gif but with TNA's logo?
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 31, 2016 20:11:44 GMT -5
Is there a "Then Now Forever" gif but with TNA's logo? Somebody needs to remake the 1.1 TNA GIF but it's just a list of stupid shit TNA has survived |
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Post by Oak: Certified Jade Hater on Oct 31, 2016 20:11:51 GMT -5
So Mike Bennett's career is dead right? I'd like to think he can continue but it's practically dead without Maria. I'd like to think Maria's just done with TNA's shit and is ready to leave. Which, considering she's been there less than a year, is impressive when others are loyal for years (Abyss, looking at you big time buddy). |
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Post by Chiral on Oct 31, 2016 20:17:56 GMT -5
Is there a "Then Now Forever" gif but with TNA's logo? Somebody needs to remake the 1.1 TNA GIF but it's just a list of stupid shit TNA has survived On that note have any of the TNA Remix videos the 1.1 gif was from been reuploaded? I miss those so much. |
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Post by Gecko on Oct 31, 2016 20:21:57 GMT -5
Is there a "Then Now Forever" gif but with TNA's logo? I had a quick look about and didn't see one, but there will be one tomorrow. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 31, 2016 20:30:03 GMT -5
It's fitting that on Halloween this ghost of a company is still floating around.
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