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Post by abjordans on Jan 5, 2017 21:07:46 GMT -5
No one expects one of the male fighters to go undefeated their entire career. MMA is a sport that is so diverse that fighters will always have a loss no matte what. Boxing is a science but MMA is like football no matter how ggod you are somebody can and will beat you. Bingo. So she lost twice. Big deal. How many of us have failed at some point in our lives? Anyone who expected her to go undefeated throughout her entire career had grossly unrealistic expectations that I doubt they could ever live up themselves. Losses are learning experiences when you are able to bounce back mentally from them. Ronda Rousey appears to be a mental midget, so these losses could destroy her career.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2017 18:10:44 GMT -5
Kinda don't even care anymore. Her legacy is being jammed down everybodies throats until they were tired of it and getting completely exposed by the first two ladies with real standup skill she came across. Holly made her look stupid. Nunes just straight beat her ass.
I would mark if she switched her training up and came back with a little humility. Ain't seeing it though. They actually convinced her that she was a God. (er.. Goddess, I guess) You expect that type of dopiness from gullible fans, not the fighters themselves.
If I were her, I'd have fired that Edmund guy immediately, got in my car and drove directly to a real boxing gym.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 6, 2017 18:32:21 GMT -5
Her whole drawing power to the casual audience was built on being 'baddest woman on the planet'. That's GONE. Your regular MMA fans would be interested in seeing her being built back up, fighting lower opponents and coming back. But your audience outside that fandom and the whole pop culture figure she becoming? Holm cracked it, Nunes demolished it. I say that even as a fan. But the time for her even being able to main event is probably over. What's interesting will be to see if the woman are put on the top of the card at all, barring a weird confluence of events like happened at 200. It would be crappy and a disservice to women but I can see them not getting main event on PPV anymore. Ronda legacy is set and that will be one thing she can hold on to I don't see any way in hell they don't at least try Nunes on a PPV. Obviously she's not responsible for the PPV's doing a million buys, but she was a headline fight who put on an absolute destruction on 2 PPV's that were purchased by over a million people, and seen by alot more then that. They're gonna give her a shot to become a star. If women headliner starts doing 200k PPV's, then yeah I see them being more of a TV headliner. But the women do draw really well when they headline Fox cards
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 6, 2017 18:46:24 GMT -5
It would be crappy and a disservice to women but I can see them not getting main event on PPV anymore. Ronda legacy is set and that will be one thing she can hold on to I don't see any way in hell they don't at least try Nunes on a PPV. Obviously she's not responsible for the PPV's doing a million buys, but she was a headline fight who put on an absolute destruction on 2 PPV's that were purchased by over a million people, and seen by alot more then that. They're gonna give her a shot to become a star. If women headliner starts doing 200k PPV's, then yeah I see them being more of a TV headliner. But the women do draw really well when they headline Fox cards Yea Fox cards are one thing but PPV are another. Amanda for example could possibly main event a Brazil card but in saying that ufc will find a way to get a top name Brazilian to headline that card. If she destroys 2 or 3 more people than Dana would have no choice to consider her for a main event spot to see if she can sell on her own. Dana needs to back her as strong as he backed Ronda if he really wants to see something flourish as like I said she is a very passionate person and I look forward to her after fight speeches because she talks from the heart
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 6, 2017 18:53:19 GMT -5
I don't see any way in hell they don't at least try Nunes on a PPV. Obviously she's not responsible for the PPV's doing a million buys, but she was a headline fight who put on an absolute destruction on 2 PPV's that were purchased by over a million people, and seen by alot more then that. They're gonna give her a shot to become a star. If women headliner starts doing 200k PPV's, then yeah I see them being more of a TV headliner. But the women do draw really well when they headline Fox cards Yea Fox cards are one thing but PPV are another. Amanda for example could possibly main event a Brazil card but in saying that ufc will find a way to get a top name Brazilian to headline that card. If she destroys 2 or 3 more people than Dana would have no choice to consider her for a main event spot to see if she can sell on her own. Dana needs to back her as strong as he backed Ronda if he really wants to see something flourish as like I said she is a very passionate person and I look forward to her after fight speeches because she talks from the heart I think they put Amanda's next one on PPV, and evaluate from there. Especially with this new rule they seem to have where unless it's Conor, a PPV HAS to have a title fight on it. I mean shit, the Women's 145 Belt basically only exists because of that new title fight rule. And offering everybody around a frickin' Interim Title fight in an attempt to pad PPV's, I just don't see any chance they don't at least give Nunes a shot.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 6, 2017 18:56:30 GMT -5
Yea Fox cards are one thing but PPV are another. Amanda for example could possibly main event a Brazil card but in saying that ufc will find a way to get a top name Brazilian to headline that card. If she destroys 2 or 3 more people than Dana would have no choice to consider her for a main event spot to see if she can sell on her own. Dana needs to back her as strong as he backed Ronda if he really wants to see something flourish as like I said she is a very passionate person and I look forward to her after fight speeches because she talks from the heart I think they put Amanda's next one on PPV, and evaluate from there. Especially with this new rule they seem to have where unless it's Conor, a PPV HAS to have a title fight on it. I mean shit, the Women's 145 Belt basically only exists because of that new title fight rule. And offering everybody around a frickin' Interim Title fight in an attempt to pad PPV's, I just don't see any chance they don't at least give Nunes a shot. Her next defense is to soon for her to be main eventing a PPV. If anything I can see them stacking her and another champ with Amanda getting the co main event spot In a perfect world, Dana would place her in the main event and say go get them kid you earned the opprtunity to see if you can draw
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Jan 6, 2017 19:02:26 GMT -5
I think they put Amanda's next one on PPV, and evaluate from there. Especially with this new rule they seem to have where unless it's Conor, a PPV HAS to have a title fight on it. I mean shit, the Women's 145 Belt basically only exists because of that new title fight rule. And offering everybody around a frickin' Interim Title fight in an attempt to pad PPV's, I just don't see any chance they don't at least give Nunes a shot. Her next defense is to soon for her to be main eventing a PPV. If anything I can see them stacking her and another champ with Amanda getting the co main event spot In a perfect world, Dana would place her in the main event and say go get them kid you earned the opprtunity to see if you can draw Ya, I suppose you might be right on that one. She took no damage whatsoever in that fight, so I imagine she has a quick turn around. UFC 209 might be a little too soon at only 2 months, but I could definitely see Nunes fighting at 210 EDIT: Odd, I don't even see 210 on the schedule, usually they announce them pretty far out from the PPV
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jan 7, 2017 7:36:48 GMT -5
Sorta. Because the question that needs to be asked isn't that is career is over, but rather would she b e willing to stick around that her losing again pretty much made it clear that she will never be the champion again.
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