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Post by dirtyoldman on Jan 14, 2017 18:08:39 GMT -5
We all know the story that the true sequel to smb was a game which was more like a smb 1.5 with the difficulty cranked right up, and the game the west got was the reskinned doki doki panic. A game that felt very different from its prequel.
However, I think it slips in between Mario 1 and 3 a hell of a lot better than the original Mario 2.
I think Nintendo made the right call with ditching the Japanese 2, cause I think people would be pissed getting the same game more or less. Do wonder what the Japanese themselves made if it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2017 18:27:34 GMT -5
It's my favorite NES Mario game.
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Post by Hypnosis on Jan 14, 2017 18:31:08 GMT -5
It's my favorite NES Mario game. I hated those Phantos, though. |
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 14, 2017 18:32:56 GMT -5
Considering Bob-Ombs, Shy Guys, Pokey, Birdo and even the Ninji (in World) have appeared outside of 2 now, plus Miyamoto actually having more involvement in Doki Doki Panic than he did the Japanese SMB2, then yes I count it.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 14, 2017 18:38:10 GMT -5
It's definitely a full-fledged part of the series by now.
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Post by JTH on Jan 14, 2017 18:44:17 GMT -5
It was the second game, there was no such establishment of what a "Proper" Mario game was. Same thing with Zelda II: A.o.L.
If anything, the current Mario games go more off course then Mario 2 did.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 14, 2017 18:47:26 GMT -5
Well, Doki Doki Panic was originally actually gonna be SMB2 before they decided it was weird, so I'll count it.
I also count the lost levels as one, even if it routinely makes me flip the table.
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Post by Powerline on Jan 14, 2017 19:09:34 GMT -5
Good enough by me, and considering all the stuff other Mario games borrow from it, yeah I do. Not to mention, had the Japanese sequel came out while the videogame industry was rebounding (HEAVILY on the back of SMB 1), it might have done a LOT of harm.
And this is coming from someone that owns both versions; SMB 2 on NES and SMB 2 on FDS (though I don't own a Famicom let alone a Disk System).
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jan 14, 2017 20:10:13 GMT -5
Forget Super Mario Bros. 2, what I want to know is if Super Mario Bros. Special for the NEC PC-8801 is considered a proper Mario game?
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Jan 14, 2017 20:19:11 GMT -5
It's not a Mario game, IT'S A MASTERPIECE!
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jan 14, 2017 21:10:11 GMT -5
Well, Doki Doki Panic was originally actually gonna be SMB2 before they decided it was weird, so I'll count it. Pretty much. OG SMB2 was criticised for essentially being the same as the first so ideas were tossed about for ways to make a new game more distinct, with one prototype involving verical-scrolling levels and a lift-carry-throw system. This was initially shelved before being revived when the Yume Kōjō license came along. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 14, 2017 21:22:29 GMT -5
Absolutely.
When it first came out when I was a kid, there wasn't even any 'controversy'. Most everyone just thought it was a great game.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Jan 14, 2017 21:56:11 GMT -5
IT WAS ALL A DREAM!
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 14, 2017 21:58:02 GMT -5
Dreams can be dangerously real for Nintendo characters though. Just ask Link. ...and since Wart cameoed in that, we can say Wart is the closest thing to Freddy Kruger that Nintendo has (even if he wasn't a villain in Link's Awakening). |
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Post by chazraps on Jan 14, 2017 22:26:09 GMT -5
Mario used to read Word Up magazine. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 15, 2017 0:45:30 GMT -5
And SMB3 was just an elaborate play. |
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Jan 15, 2017 1:39:59 GMT -5
Well, Doki Doki Panic was originally actually gonna be SMB2 before they decided it was weird, so I'll count it. I also count the lost levels as one, even if it routinely makes me flip the table. Yeah, Doki Doki Panic was created by the Mario team, so it's not like they just slapped Mario sprites into some random game. |
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Post by eDemento2099 on Jan 15, 2017 15:32:51 GMT -5
It's my favorite NES Mario game. It's my favorite Mario game, period. It's also one of my favorite games of all time, regardless of what system it appeared on. (Same goes for Zelda II: The Adventure of Link.) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 17:51:18 GMT -5
It's my favorite NES Mario game. It's my favorite Mario game, period. It's also one of my favorite games of all time, regardless of what system it appeared on. (Same goes for Zelda II: The Adventure of Link.) Oh I did not like Zelda II at all. If I tried it again I might like it more. Or I may hate it more. I have no idea. |
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Post by CMWaters on Jan 15, 2017 19:18:11 GMT -5
It's my favorite Mario game, period. It's also one of my favorite games of all time, regardless of what system it appeared on. (Same goes for Zelda II: The Adventure of Link.) Oh I did not like Zelda II at all. If I tried it again I might like it more. Or I may hate it more. I have no idea. Yeah, Zelda 2 has much more a learning and adjustment curve than US Mario 2. That and the difficulty is the Zelda equivalent to Japan's SMB2. |
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