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Post by Ben Wyatt on May 22, 2017 10:12:36 GMT -5
I love how I have watched countless people on here whine about how "WWE should have a contender come out of nowhere and actually win just to shake things up a bit", and when they finally do exactly that, it causes more whining than almost anything else that has ever happened. Mahal has been knocking it out of the park with this run. His mic work has been good, and he actually made a Randy Orton match watchable, so his ring work has been exemplary in my eyes. Personally, I don't think anyone would be whining nearly as much if he hadn't smacked Finn Blander with that forearm. Dude's been the best heel in the company. I was one of those folks. I've used Santino as my example before and you know what the difference is? Despite his goofy character, he had shown he can surprise people. He'd won the US, IC and tag titles. He actually had a resume , for better or worse, over a number of years. He'd built a good base as a plucky underdog. Jinder HAS been good in this run, and if it had been longer than 6 weeks, I might go along with him winning last night. But an apt comparison to this would be like Gangrel unseating Austin after Wrestlemania 15. Sure it's different, but the booking was rushed and the build was garbage
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lodirulz
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Post by lodirulz on May 22, 2017 10:21:14 GMT -5
Saw this on The Squared Circle Subreddit, this was the reaction of The Hindi announce team when Mahal won: streamable.com/72790
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on May 22, 2017 10:22:54 GMT -5
I love how I have watched countless people on here whine about how "WWE should have a contender come out of nowhere and actually win just to shake things up a bit", and when they finally do exactly that, it causes more whining than almost anything else that has ever happened. Mahal has been knocking it out of the park with this run. His mic work has been good, and he actually made a Randy Orton match watchable, so his ring work has been exemplary in my eyes. Personally, I don't think anyone would be whining nearly as much if he hadn't smacked Finn Blander with that forearm. Dude's been the best heel in the company. Those were probably not the same people whining. Or if they were, they probably don't like Jinder Mahal. That seems pretty reasonable. It's cool you like him. I don't. I'm not a fan of Blander ( good one BTW) either and that forearm was an accident. Don't care about that. I just think Jinder is at best the maybe 12th best guy on Smackdown. He shouldn't be near any title. And yo answer two other questions on this page: 1. People don't have to stop watching if they don't like s match decision. That's ridiculous. 2. If Jinder were on the indies he might not suck so maybe people would like him more? Erick Rowan worked on the indies and not many people champion him as really great. So that argument also continues to be ridiculous Truth be told, I don't give a remote shit about Jinder. There are so many guys I would have rather seen take the title (Nakamura, Owens, Zayn, Styles just off the top of my head). I think the dude has been good, but frankly the entire scene around the title has been awful. I loved Wyatt winning it because I wanted it to be the thing that finally cemented him, but I knew Orton was going to take it from him, so that automatically made me not care. To be completely honest, I was excited to see Jinder get the win because not only was it a surprise, but it got the belt off of the most boring person in the history of the company. Whatever saves me from another Randy Orton title run is ok in my book.
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the2ndevil
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Post by the2ndevil on May 22, 2017 10:30:45 GMT -5
Saw this on The Squared Circle Subreddit, this was the reaction of The Hindi announce team when Mahal won: streamable.com/72790Aw, they sound so happy!
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lionheart21
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Post by lionheart21 on May 22, 2017 10:50:40 GMT -5
Hey WWE I know you're trying to make money in a country where you're expanding to right now, but I'd just like to point out you also have Pete Dunne signed.[/quoDunnte] To be fair, Dunne is UK Champ now.
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Post by stealthamo on May 22, 2017 10:55:13 GMT -5
This has got to be the worst night in Bret Hart's life. Actually, it probably is. That's the same prestigious championship he held. The same one that eluded Razor Ramon, Roddy Piper, Owen Hart, Ted Diabetes, Mr. Perfect, and countless others over the years. If Jinder can win it after jobbing up until literally like last month, where's the standard? It clearly doesn't matter. Give the f***ing thing to Headbanger Mosh. TED DIABETES Every buffet's got a price. Every buffet's gonna pay. Cause the Million Calorie Man always get his way!
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Hawk Hart
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Post by Hawk Hart on May 22, 2017 10:56:45 GMT -5
Why do so many people who aren't part of the wrestling business feel they are the soul judges of worthiness?
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Post by Chiral on May 22, 2017 11:03:29 GMT -5
Why do so many people who aren't part of the wrestling business feel they are the soul judges of worthiness? You don't have to work in an industry (especially an entertainment one) to be able to criticize it. I doubt a lot of people bashing this think that either, it's more a WWE thing to go "You can't criticize us unless you work in this business." Like if I got a lawyer that didn't show up to a court hearing, and I expressed concern for that, I wouldn't get "Oh have YOU gone to law school? Then you can't criticize me."
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 11:05:47 GMT -5
Why do so many people who aren't part of the wrestling business feel they are the soul judges of worthiness? You don't have to work in an industry (especially an entertainment one) to be able to criticize it. I doubt a lot of people bashing this think that either, it's more a WWE thing to go "You can't criticize us unless you work in this business." Like if I got a lawyer that didn't show up to a court hearing, and I expressed concern for that, I wouldn't get "Oh have YOU gone to law school? Then you can't criticize me." I ate a burger once and didn't like it, the cook told me I couldn't possibly know anything about what burgers should taste like because I wasn't a cook. I apologized for my deep transgression and started enjoying all burgers from then on since it was beyond my feeble understanding.
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Allie Kitsune
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Post by Allie Kitsune on May 22, 2017 11:07:49 GMT -5
Why do so many people who aren't part of the wrestling business feel they are the soul judges of worthiness? You mean you CAN'T see the darkness inside of Jinder's soul?
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The Kevstaaa
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 22, 2017 11:08:31 GMT -5
I think he's been pretty bad at everything for his entire career. Of the 85 or so people on the main roster, I could think of at least 75 I'd rather see in this position.
That being said, the one positive is that it's something different and I don't have to sit through another Orton reign.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on May 22, 2017 11:13:58 GMT -5
Why do so many people who aren't part of the wrestling business feel they are the soul judges of worthiness? I mean, not being funny here, but they are in an industry where the aim is to make money from said people. Not to do the usual food analogy but it'd be like people saying Ryan Reynolds isn't a worthy headline movie act besides one or two roles he's good at. Like, sure, Deadpool made a lot of money, but that was directly after a collection of not great box office turnover.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on May 22, 2017 11:13:58 GMT -5
I really hate the "you don't work in the industry/can't do this thing so you can't criticize it" response to anything.
I'm not a writer but if I'm reading a book set in the 932AD and suddenly a medieval knight pulls a laser gun out of his ass midway through the story and it is never explained where it came from and is never seen again... that's a shit story that doesn't make any f***ing sense.
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Post by darrenmitchelstork on May 22, 2017 11:14:08 GMT -5
The IWC be like: Jinder Mahal, you're the worst wrestler we've ever heard of.
Jinder be like: yes, but you have heard of me
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Hawk Hart
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Post by Hawk Hart on May 22, 2017 11:16:27 GMT -5
Why do so many people who aren't part of the wrestling business feel they are the soul judges of worthiness? I mean, not being funny here, but they are in an industry where the aim is to make money from said people. Not to do the usual food analogy but it'd be like people saying Ryan Reynolds isn't a worthy headline movie act besides one or two roles he's good at. Like, sure, Deadpool made a lot of money, but that was directly after a collection of not great box office turnover. There's a difference between someone deserving to win the title and the fans wanting to see it. Did Jinder deserve to win the title? In my opinion, yeah. He's put up with a decent amount of crap over the years and, by all accounts, he's put in the work to improve at what he does. Does that mean fans want to see him in that spot? Once again, I like it because I get excited whenever WWE takes a chance to push new names but others don't. Once again, that doesn't determine if he's worthy of his spot. EDIT: Besides, there's a few ways this can go. Either Jinder gets a solid run and he's a new, legitimate main eventer or he drops it to someone like Styles or Orton within the next six weeks and this is all forgotten about. How ridiculous is all this rage with either scenario? How are WWE supposed to create new stars if they don't take a risk every now and then?
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Post by Hit Girl on May 22, 2017 11:29:13 GMT -5
Orton's reign of terror is thankfully over. All hail Jinder!
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Post by Hit Girl on May 22, 2017 11:31:57 GMT -5
If people don't like it, just wait it out. It's probably a short transitional reign anyway. Personally I'm happy for the guy.
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Post by Chiral on May 22, 2017 11:34:09 GMT -5
How ridiculous is all this rage with either scenario? How are WWE supposed to create new stars if they don't take a risk every now and then? This being a short title run doesn't make this any less stupid. And if Jinder does become a legitimate champion, what does that say about the mid-card now? What's the point of anything under the world title if you can just win it any time? And ways for WWE to make new stars: actually put the work in. Make a new star without sacrificing whatever internal logic they have left by hotshotting another guy to the title with little build. Do actual builds of wrestlers and utilize the mid card instead of the now typical push entirely built on shortcuts like Money in the Bank or instant title wins like Jinder or Sheamus.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 11:36:01 GMT -5
I really hate the "you don't work in the industry/can't do this thing so you can't criticize it" response to anything. I'm not a writer but if I'm reading a book set in the 932AD and suddenly a medieval knight pulls a laser gun out of his ass midway through the story and it is never explained where it came from and is never seen again... that's a shit story that doesn't make any f***ing sense. I've never heard someone say "You don't work in the industry" and had it not be referencing something that was almost objectively bad. As objectively as something based on opinion can be anyway.
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Post by Bungle on May 22, 2017 11:37:37 GMT -5
Reading wrestlers reactions,I can't see how is undeserved.
Hard workers deserve success too.
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