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Post by The Heenan Family on Apr 26, 2017 15:36:24 GMT -5
The only way this works is if it spans from his childhood to WrestleMania 1. Leave the steroid trial, sex scandal, war with WCW, screw job, and so on out. Otherwise it's going to throw a grenade into a host of sensitive topics and could open up serious wounds. Focus on his dysfunctional upbringing, follow him to military school, dyslexia, meeting Linda, the decision to join his fathers company, buying out his father and partners, the company expanding, and end it with the struggle of Mania 1. Make it interesting and yet not something most people can rip apart. Also I'd have Josh Helman play Vince. They are the same height and Helman is 31 and can play Vince from his 20s to his 40s.
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Post by CubsFan71 on Apr 26, 2017 15:42:14 GMT -5
Morgan Freeman needs to narrate this My vote goes to Samuel L. Jackson
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 26, 2017 15:48:46 GMT -5
If it wasn't a complete puff piece, it would be interesting.
Can only think it'll be Gerry Briscoe level of ass kissin tho. No desire to see that.
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Post by Loser troll. Please ban me on Apr 26, 2017 15:55:10 GMT -5
No one has mentioned the obvious choice and who Vince likely wants to play him.
WBF Champion for life, Gary Strydom
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Post by honsou on Apr 26, 2017 17:46:43 GMT -5
This ought to be like one of those pure propaganda pictures you see about the life stories of dictators from their own countries. We will see:
Vince have a heart to heart with The Rock, giving him all his catchphrases and even showing him how to do the eyebrow
Vince booking all of the best angles by himself, any mistakes made will either be ignored or the fault of everyone else.
At the end I hope there is a "future" segment where there is a 20ft tall statue of Vince in front of Titan Towers
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Post by Clint Bobski on Apr 26, 2017 18:19:35 GMT -5
I suspect this will be one long series of hatchet jobs on everyone who ever stood up against Vince, from Ted Turner and Joe Weider to the US government and will end in a bunch of lawsuits for libel because Vince feels he can rewrite real world events like he has wrestling history. Don't forget the NFL for being competition for the XFL...
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Post by Clint Bobski on Apr 26, 2017 18:21:10 GMT -5
No one has mentioned the obvious choice and who Vince likely wants to play him. WBF Champion for life, Gary Strydom WOOOOW
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Post by No Name is needed Bro Beans on Apr 26, 2017 19:47:28 GMT -5
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Apr 26, 2017 21:56:56 GMT -5
Honestly, you know who would be amazing as Vince, if he wasn't more well known for voice work? Kevin Conroy. Sadly, he'd likely never even be considered.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 26, 2017 23:35:43 GMT -5
Vince's Snow Cone Speech about how much he loves them better be in this thing, and 100% accurate.
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Post by Richard on Apr 27, 2017 13:27:38 GMT -5
PWInsider has some details on the original project, I guess possible spoilers {Spoiler}EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE VINCE MCMAHON MOVIE (POTENTIAL SPOILERS) by Mike Johnson @ 12:31 PM on 4/27/2017
Earlier this week, it was announced that TriStar Pictures would be producing a film based on the life of WWE's Vince McMahon titled Pandemonium.
The script, by Craig A. Williams (who wrote Disney's live action Underdog adaptation few years back) was originally written back in 2015 and has undergone several drafts, the earliest dated 2015. Glenn Ficarra and John Requa, the team behind the excellent NBC drama This is Us are attached to direct, having most recently directed Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot starring Tina Fey. Michael Luisi (head of WWE Studios, which recently came on board after the script was bouncing around Hollywood independent of the WWE) and Aperture Entertainment's Adam Goldworn will produce. Charlie Gogolak of Zaftig Films is listed as Executive Producer, which means that he's involved financially but not involved in the day to day process of bringing the film to life.
So, with Vince McMahon, a controversial figure much larger than life and with such a wealth of stories and colorful characters involved, what would a film on McMahon's life feature? The early drafts of the screenplay, which I am very familiar with after speaking to a number of sources and friends in the Hollywood community, may tell the tale. Obviously, spoiler warnings are included regarding the current vision for the film, although we will touch upon whether this vision will survive as the pre-production evolves.
Based on those I have spoken with, the script begins in the 1970s with Vince, already married to Linda (who is working as a waitress in a nudie bar), frustrated by his different job exploits going nowhere. His frustration is doubled by the fact that when he visits his father (Vince Sr., presented as the old-timey wrestling promoter, cursing up a storm in every scene as he talks down to his son) who's WWWF is featuring half-empty buildings. VInce implores to his father that the audience doesn't care about the wrestling but really wants drama and theatrics. His father doesn't want to hear it and blows his son off, demanding he doesn't get involved in wrestling. There is a scene in a later draft where Vince is exiled to Bangor, Maine to be the local promoter and is blown away after witnessing Led Zeppelin live in the building, realizing the lesson of how important lighting, music, etc. are to changing the pro wrestling presentation.
We are told there is an amazing scene early on where, in the nudie bar, Linda tells Vince she is pregnant (with Shane McMahon) and Vince declares the mother of his child won't work in a place like this and they leave. The manager tries to stop Linda from leaving before the end of her shift and ends up in a fight with Vince, who trounces him. The script then makes it clear that Linda is turned on by what Vince is done.
There is also a "wink-wink" line where Linda says that she and Vince could never be the political type but perhaps their kids will be one day.
Eventually, Vince is brought in as an announcer after his father gets WWOR TV and doesn't want to pay his announcer a "national, union" wage, realizing Vince is family and is exempt from union fees. Vince becomes an announcer and eventually negotiates a one million dollar buyout of his father, keeping Gorilla Monsoon on as his number two. In the earlier drafts, Monsoon is a much bigger character in the film, explained to me as being portrayed as being what Pat Patterson was in the real-life version of WWE. In the early draft, Monsoon ends up on the stand during Vince's steroid trial, playing the role that Hulk Hogan would in real life, as the former McMahon confidante, now forced into a situation against him. A later draft of the script puts Hogan in that role. It was described to me in both versions as being just like Ray Liotta as Henry Hill in Goodfellas facing down his former mob pals when he testifies against them.
A major change from real-life in all the drafts of the script is the idea that Vince Sr. passed away during the McMahon trial, which obviously did not happen. McMahon Sr. passed away before the first Wrestlemania, way earlier than the mid-1990s during the height of the McMahon trial. I was told both versions of the script, Vince and his father have a moment where they make amends before his passing, leading directly into a major scene where McMahon, on the stand in his defense, has a big dramatic monolog about how the government shouldn't be in the business of his and other blue collar people, turning the jury sympathetic to him before he is cleared of all charges. The trial sequences were described to me as very The People vs. Larry Flynt-inspired with the idea that Sean O'Shea, the prosecutor, was out to expose that McMahon's company was playing to kids but really had a disgusting underbelly.
In the craziest twist, over the course of the trial, Vince's infidelities are exposed, shocking his family and after he is found not guilty, there is a scene where Vince is a limo with them as they all rail against him for the terrible person he is, only for them to flip the switch on him and tell him that's the making of their next great heel. So, the Montreal Screwjob never happened and Mr. McMahon, in this version of the story, was inspired by Vince being exposed for being terrible person over the course of the trial. I was told this version is maintained over the different drafts of the script.
During the trial, there is a great scene where Shane and Stephanie McMahon, in High School, are taunted over their father's legal issues, leading to the siblings beating the hell out of their tormentors in a school hallway, beating them into lockers and all, a scene right out of a pro wrestling battle.
The Ted Turner rivalry is brought up, including the infamous "I'm in the 'Rassling Business" phone call that Vince McMahon has recounted over the years, but there's no Eric Bischoff to be found. Instead, in this version, Jim and David Crockett work for Turner and they go after Hogan. I was told the second draft of the script featured more on the Monday Night War but it is not a major factor in the early versions of the script. Verne Gagne is also mentioned and featured in early scenes based around McMahon taking the company national and stealing talent.
Lots of names that were featured by WWF are featured in the script. In one sequence, the film portrays that Vince found Junkyard Dog as a construction worker, Roddy Piper in jail, Jimmy Snuka as a porn actor, etc. and transformed them into pro wrestlers. Obviously, that wasn't the case. I was also told there is a scene where Vince drives Linda to Montreal for their anniversary and throws a fit in a French restaurant because he hated their food, leading to the owner coming out - the owner being Andre the Giants - and that all along, the trip was Vince's way of scouting this giant he has heard of. The idea is that Vince then beings Andre into the business. Again, not how that happened. A later draft features Vince stealing Hogan from the AWA and having him trained. Again, not the way it happened.
I am told there are a LOT of racy elements in the versions of the script that have circulated. Steroid use, including a brawl between Randy Savage and Roddy Piper on a plane, with the idea that it was brought on by roid rage is featured in a later draft. There is a scene in the most recent draft of the film where Hogan is dealing with steroid use hurting his sex drive and indeed, the size of his genitals. There is a scene where a female wrestler propositions Vince, leading to him instead telling Linda (in front of the wrestler) what was suggested, so instead Linda leads Vince into the stands at MSG to do the deed herself with her husband.
Vince and Linda are presented, especially early on, as foul mouthed people who know what business they are in. Linda's one order to McMahon is that he can do whatever he wants to present his persona and the company to the public - lie all he wants - but between them there can only be truth. As their success builds, the two marvel that pro wrestling could sell out Madison Square Garden (of course, it had for decades, but that's not the story the film wants to tell) and that Wrestlemania brings in millions, leading to a scene where they and Monsoon all sit there slack-jawed in happy shock over how the show did. The idea that Vince gets lost in the success (and the sex and drugs and rock and roll that comes with it) is played up while he realizes how badly he's hurt Linda when it all comes out.
One version of the script features a scene where Randy Savage and Vince have a conversation about how Savage is popular with young women the same age as Stephanie, leading to Savage telling Vince he would never think of touching her. That is the only time that oft-repeated rumor is mentioned, and you can pretty much guarantee that scene will never see the light of day for all the obvious reasons.
The script opens with a warning that the story is as true as anything in professional wrestling (well, in many cases, the story isn't true, even about professional wrestling) and closes with a post-script about how successful WWE as a company has been in recent years, featuring scenes of the different family members being involved.
Some of the other names that pop up in the different versions of the script include The Iron Sheik (who is seen leaving his family and saying goodbye to them in an AMERICAN accent), Nikolai Volkoff, Bob Backlund, Bruno Sammartino, Jay Strongbow, Baron Mikel Scicluna and many others, legitimate and fictional alike.
So, what happens to this version of the McMahon story now that WWE Studios is on board and with McMahon, will obviously have complete approval power on the project? From speaking to those I know in the Hollywood circles, I am told that at least one complete rewrite will be ordered that will expunge a lot of the racier elements of the script and one would assume, references to Stephanie McMahon and Randy Savage as well as change the characterization of Vince Sr. and others who are featured in the project that don't line up with presentations that Vince McMahon and WWE are happy with. The belief is that since Vince has sold the rights to his life story in order for this project to move forward, he will have complete approval over the final version of the script well before it begins filming.
We are told that process is just starting and new writers may be brought into the fold. There is currently no timetable to bring the film before cameras at this time, so no casting is underway.
So, way before this thing is being produced, it's already adding to the mythos and the strange story of the McMahon family.
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Post by Rican on Apr 27, 2017 13:39:37 GMT -5
Morgan Freeman needs to narrate this Morgan Freeman should play Vince.
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Post by The Heenan Family on Apr 27, 2017 13:49:25 GMT -5
PWInsider has some details on the original project, I guess possible spoilers {Spoiler}{Spoiler}EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE VINCE MCMAHON MOVIE (POTENTIAL SPOILERS) by Mike Johnson @ 12:31 PM on 4/27/2017
Earlier this week, it was announced that TriStar Pictures would be producing a film based on the life of WWE's Vince McMahon titled Pandemonium.
The script, by Craig A. Williams (who wrote Disney's live action Underdog adaptation few years back) was originally written back in 2015 and has undergone several drafts, the earliest dated 2015. Glenn Ficarra and John Requa, the team behind the excellent NBC drama This is Us are attached to direct, having most recently directed Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot starring Tina Fey. Michael Luisi (head of WWE Studios, which recently came on board after the script was bouncing around Hollywood independent of the WWE) and Aperture Entertainment's Adam Goldworn will produce. Charlie Gogolak of Zaftig Films is listed as Executive Producer, which means that he's involved financially but not involved in the day to day process of bringing the film to life.
So, with Vince McMahon, a controversial figure much larger than life and with such a wealth of stories and colorful characters involved, what would a film on McMahon's life feature? The early drafts of the screenplay, which I am very familiar with after speaking to a number of sources and friends in the Hollywood community, may tell the tale. Obviously, spoiler warnings are included regarding the current vision for the film, although we will touch upon whether this vision will survive as the pre-production evolves.
Based on those I have spoken with, the script begins in the 1970s with Vince, already married to Linda (who is working as a waitress in a nudie bar), frustrated by his different job exploits going nowhere. His frustration is doubled by the fact that when he visits his father (Vince Sr., presented as the old-timey wrestling promoter, cursing up a storm in every scene as he talks down to his son) who's WWWF is featuring half-empty buildings. VInce implores to his father that the audience doesn't care about the wrestling but really wants drama and theatrics. His father doesn't want to hear it and blows his son off, demanding he doesn't get involved in wrestling. There is a scene in a later draft where Vince is exiled to Bangor, Maine to be the local promoter and is blown away after witnessing Led Zeppelin live in the building, realizing the lesson of how important lighting, music, etc. are to changing the pro wrestling presentation.
We are told there is an amazing scene early on where, in the nudie bar, Linda tells Vince she is pregnant (with Shane McMahon) and Vince declares the mother of his child won't work in a place like this and they leave. The manager tries to stop Linda from leaving before the end of her shift and ends up in a fight with Vince, who trounces him. The script then makes it clear that Linda is turned on by what Vince is done.
There is also a "wink-wink" line where Linda says that she and Vince could never be the political type but perhaps their kids will be one day.
Eventually, Vince is brought in as an announcer after his father gets WWOR TV and doesn't want to pay his announcer a "national, union" wage, realizing Vince is family and is exempt from union fees. Vince becomes an announcer and eventually negotiates a one million dollar buyout of his father, keeping Gorilla Monsoon on as his number two. In the earlier drafts, Monsoon is a much bigger character in the film, explained to me as being portrayed as being what Pat Patterson was in the real-life version of WWE. In the early draft, Monsoon ends up on the stand during Vince's steroid trial, playing the role that Hulk Hogan would in real life, as the former McMahon confidante, now forced into a situation against him. A later draft of the script puts Hogan in that role. It was described to me in both versions as being just like Ray Liotta as Henry Hill in Goodfellas facing down his former mob pals when he testifies against them.
A major change from real-life in all the drafts of the script is the idea that Vince Sr. passed away during the McMahon trial, which obviously did not happen. McMahon Sr. passed away before the first Wrestlemania, way earlier than the mid-1990s during the height of the McMahon trial. I was told both versions of the script, Vince and his father have a moment where they make amends before his passing, leading directly into a major scene where McMahon, on the stand in his defense, has a big dramatic monolog about how the government shouldn't be in the business of his and other blue collar people, turning the jury sympathetic to him before he is cleared of all charges. The trial sequences were described to me as very The People vs. Larry Flynt-inspired with the idea that Sean O'Shea, the prosecutor, was out to expose that McMahon's company was playing to kids but really had a disgusting underbelly.
In the craziest twist, over the course of the trial, Vince's infidelities are exposed, shocking his family and after he is found not guilty, there is a scene where Vince is a limo with them as they all rail against him for the terrible person he is, only for them to flip the switch on him and tell him that's the making of their next great heel. So, the Montreal Screwjob never happened and Mr. McMahon, in this version of the story, was inspired by Vince being exposed for being terrible person over the course of the trial. I was told this version is maintained over the different drafts of the script.
During the trial, there is a great scene where Shane and Stephanie McMahon, in High School, are taunted over their father's legal issues, leading to the siblings beating the hell out of their tormentors in a school hallway, beating them into lockers and all, a scene right out of a pro wrestling battle.
The Ted Turner rivalry is brought up, including the infamous "I'm in the 'Rassling Business" phone call that Vince McMahon has recounted over the years, but there's no Eric Bischoff to be found. Instead, in this version, Jim and David Crockett work for Turner and they go after Hogan. I was told the second draft of the script featured more on the Monday Night War but it is not a major factor in the early versions of the script. Verne Gagne is also mentioned and featured in early scenes based around McMahon taking the company national and stealing talent.
Lots of names that were featured by WWF are featured in the script. In one sequence, the film portrays that Vince found Junkyard Dog as a construction worker, Roddy Piper in jail, Jimmy Snuka as a porn actor, etc. and transformed them into pro wrestlers. Obviously, that wasn't the case. I was also told there is a scene where Vince drives Linda to Montreal for their anniversary and throws a fit in a French restaurant because he hated their food, leading to the owner coming out - the owner being Andre the Giants - and that all along, the trip was Vince's way of scouting this giant he has heard of. The idea is that Vince then beings Andre into the business. Again, not how that happened. A later draft features Vince stealing Hogan from the AWA and having him trained. Again, not the way it happened.
I am told there are a LOT of racy elements in the versions of the script that have circulated. Steroid use, including a brawl between Randy Savage and Roddy Piper on a plane, with the idea that it was brought on by roid rage is featured in a later draft. There is a scene in the most recent draft of the film where Hogan is dealing with steroid use hurting his sex drive and indeed, the size of his genitals. There is a scene where a female wrestler propositions Vince, leading to him instead telling Linda (in front of the wrestler) what was suggested, so instead Linda leads Vince into the stands at MSG to do the deed herself with her husband.
Vince and Linda are presented, especially early on, as foul mouthed people who know what business they are in. Linda's one order to McMahon is that he can do whatever he wants to present his persona and the company to the public - lie all he wants - but between them there can only be truth. As their success builds, the two marvel that pro wrestling could sell out Madison Square Garden (of course, it had for decades, but that's not the story the film wants to tell) and that Wrestlemania brings in millions, leading to a scene where they and Monsoon all sit there slack-jawed in happy shock over how the show did. The idea that Vince gets lost in the success (and the sex and drugs and rock and roll that comes with it) is played up while he realizes how badly he's hurt Linda when it all comes out.
One version of the script features a scene where Randy Savage and Vince have a conversation about how Savage is popular with young women the same age as Stephanie, leading to Savage telling Vince he would never think of touching her. That is the only time that oft-repeated rumor is mentioned, and you can pretty much guarantee that scene will never see the light of day for all the obvious reasons.
The script opens with a warning that the story is as true as anything in professional wrestling (well, in many cases, the story isn't true, even about professional wrestling) and closes with a post-script about how successful WWE as a company has been in recent years, featuring scenes of the different family members being involved.
Some of the other names that pop up in the different versions of the script include The Iron Sheik (who is seen leaving his family and saying goodbye to them in an AMERICAN accent), Nikolai Volkoff, Bob Backlund, Bruno Sammartino, Jay Strongbow, Baron Mikel Scicluna and many others, legitimate and fictional alike.
So, what happens to this version of the McMahon story now that WWE Studios is on board and with McMahon, will obviously have complete approval power on the project? From speaking to those I know in the Hollywood circles, I am told that at least one complete rewrite will be ordered that will expunge a lot of the racier elements of the script and one would assume, references to Stephanie McMahon and Randy Savage as well as change the characterization of Vince Sr. and others who are featured in the project that don't line up with presentations that Vince McMahon and WWE are happy with. The belief is that since Vince has sold the rights to his life story in order for this project to move forward, he will have complete approval over the final version of the script well before it begins filming.
We are told that process is just starting and new writers may be brought into the fold. There is currently no timetable to bring the film before cameras at this time, so no casting is underway.
So, way before this thing is being produced, it's already adding to the mythos and the strange story of the McMahon family.
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Post by Schizo on Apr 27, 2017 13:52:43 GMT -5
The only way this works is if it spans from his childhood to WrestleMania 1. Leave the steroid trial, sex scandal, war with WCW, screw job, and so on out. Otherwise it's going to throw a grenade into a host of sensitive topics and could open up serious wounds. Focus on his dysfunctional upbringing, follow him to military school, dyslexia, meeting Linda, the decision to join his fathers company, buying out his father and partners, the company expanding, and end it with the struggle of Mania 1. Make it interesting and yet not something most people can rip apart. Also I'd have Josh Helman play Vince. They are the same height and Helman is 31 and can play Vince from his 20s to his 40s. Cody Rhodes to play Vince? Sure why not
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Post by PTBartman on Apr 27, 2017 14:33:27 GMT -5
Lin Manuel Mirranda leads a multi-cultural cast in the hip-hop movie Vincent K McMahonilton: A Wrestling Musical
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Apr 27, 2017 14:41:12 GMT -5
PWInsider has some details on the original project, I guess possible spoilers {Spoiler}{Spoiler}EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE VINCE MCMAHON MOVIE (POTENTIAL SPOILERS) by Mike Johnson @ 12:31 PM on 4/27/2017
Earlier this week, it was announced that TriStar Pictures would be producing a film based on the life of WWE's Vince McMahon titled Pandemonium.
The script, by Craig A. Williams (who wrote Disney's live action Underdog adaptation few years back) was originally written back in 2015 and has undergone several drafts, the earliest dated 2015. Glenn Ficarra and John Requa, the team behind the excellent NBC drama This is Us are attached to direct, having most recently directed Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot starring Tina Fey. Michael Luisi (head of WWE Studios, which recently came on board after the script was bouncing around Hollywood independent of the WWE) and Aperture Entertainment's Adam Goldworn will produce. Charlie Gogolak of Zaftig Films is listed as Executive Producer, which means that he's involved financially but not involved in the day to day process of bringing the film to life.
So, with Vince McMahon, a controversial figure much larger than life and with such a wealth of stories and colorful characters involved, what would a film on McMahon's life feature? The early drafts of the screenplay, which I am very familiar with after speaking to a number of sources and friends in the Hollywood community, may tell the tale. Obviously, spoiler warnings are included regarding the current vision for the film, although we will touch upon whether this vision will survive as the pre-production evolves.
Based on those I have spoken with, the script begins in the 1970s with Vince, already married to Linda (who is working as a waitress in a nudie bar), frustrated by his different job exploits going nowhere. His frustration is doubled by the fact that when he visits his father (Vince Sr., presented as the old-timey wrestling promoter, cursing up a storm in every scene as he talks down to his son) who's WWWF is featuring half-empty buildings. VInce implores to his father that the audience doesn't care about the wrestling but really wants drama and theatrics. His father doesn't want to hear it and blows his son off, demanding he doesn't get involved in wrestling. There is a scene in a later draft where Vince is exiled to Bangor, Maine to be the local promoter and is blown away after witnessing Led Zeppelin live in the building, realizing the lesson of how important lighting, music, etc. are to changing the pro wrestling presentation.
We are told there is an amazing scene early on where, in the nudie bar, Linda tells Vince she is pregnant (with Shane McMahon) and Vince declares the mother of his child won't work in a place like this and they leave. The manager tries to stop Linda from leaving before the end of her shift and ends up in a fight with Vince, who trounces him. The script then makes it clear that Linda is turned on by what Vince is done.
There is also a "wink-wink" line where Linda says that she and Vince could never be the political type but perhaps their kids will be one day.
Eventually, Vince is brought in as an announcer after his father gets WWOR TV and doesn't want to pay his announcer a "national, union" wage, realizing Vince is family and is exempt from union fees. Vince becomes an announcer and eventually negotiates a one million dollar buyout of his father, keeping Gorilla Monsoon on as his number two. In the earlier drafts, Monsoon is a much bigger character in the film, explained to me as being portrayed as being what Pat Patterson was in the real-life version of WWE. In the early draft, Monsoon ends up on the stand during Vince's steroid trial, playing the role that Hulk Hogan would in real life, as the former McMahon confidante, now forced into a situation against him. A later draft of the script puts Hogan in that role. It was described to me in both versions as being just like Ray Liotta as Henry Hill in Goodfellas facing down his former mob pals when he testifies against them.
A major change from real-life in all the drafts of the script is the idea that Vince Sr. passed away during the McMahon trial, which obviously did not happen. McMahon Sr. passed away before the first Wrestlemania, way earlier than the mid-1990s during the height of the McMahon trial. I was told both versions of the script, Vince and his father have a moment where they make amends before his passing, leading directly into a major scene where McMahon, on the stand in his defense, has a big dramatic monolog about how the government shouldn't be in the business of his and other blue collar people, turning the jury sympathetic to him before he is cleared of all charges. The trial sequences were described to me as very The People vs. Larry Flynt-inspired with the idea that Sean O'Shea, the prosecutor, was out to expose that McMahon's company was playing to kids but really had a disgusting underbelly.
In the craziest twist, over the course of the trial, Vince's infidelities are exposed, shocking his family and after he is found not guilty, there is a scene where Vince is a limo with them as they all rail against him for the terrible person he is, only for them to flip the switch on him and tell him that's the making of their next great heel. So, the Montreal Screwjob never happened and Mr. McMahon, in this version of the story, was inspired by Vince being exposed for being terrible person over the course of the trial. I was told this version is maintained over the different drafts of the script.
During the trial, there is a great scene where Shane and Stephanie McMahon, in High School, are taunted over their father's legal issues, leading to the siblings beating the hell out of their tormentors in a school hallway, beating them into lockers and all, a scene right out of a pro wrestling battle.
The Ted Turner rivalry is brought up, including the infamous "I'm in the 'Rassling Business" phone call that Vince McMahon has recounted over the years, but there's no Eric Bischoff to be found. Instead, in this version, Jim and David Crockett work for Turner and they go after Hogan. I was told the second draft of the script featured more on the Monday Night War but it is not a major factor in the early versions of the script. Verne Gagne is also mentioned and featured in early scenes based around McMahon taking the company national and stealing talent.
Lots of names that were featured by WWF are featured in the script. In one sequence, the film portrays that Vince found Junkyard Dog as a construction worker, Roddy Piper in jail, Jimmy Snuka as a porn actor, etc. and transformed them into pro wrestlers. Obviously, that wasn't the case. I was also told there is a scene where Vince drives Linda to Montreal for their anniversary and throws a fit in a French restaurant because he hated their food, leading to the owner coming out - the owner being Andre the Giants - and that all along, the trip was Vince's way of scouting this giant he has heard of. The idea is that Vince then beings Andre into the business. Again, not how that happened. A later draft features Vince stealing Hogan from the AWA and having him trained. Again, not the way it happened.
I am told there are a LOT of racy elements in the versions of the script that have circulated. Steroid use, including a brawl between Randy Savage and Roddy Piper on a plane, with the idea that it was brought on by roid rage is featured in a later draft. There is a scene in the most recent draft of the film where Hogan is dealing with steroid use hurting his sex drive and indeed, the size of his genitals. There is a scene where a female wrestler propositions Vince, leading to him instead telling Linda (in front of the wrestler) what was suggested, so instead Linda leads Vince into the stands at MSG to do the deed herself with her husband.
Vince and Linda are presented, especially early on, as foul mouthed people who know what business they are in. Linda's one order to McMahon is that he can do whatever he wants to present his persona and the company to the public - lie all he wants - but between them there can only be truth. As their success builds, the two marvel that pro wrestling could sell out Madison Square Garden (of course, it had for decades, but that's not the story the film wants to tell) and that Wrestlemania brings in millions, leading to a scene where they and Monsoon all sit there slack-jawed in happy shock over how the show did. The idea that Vince gets lost in the success (and the sex and drugs and rock and roll that comes with it) is played up while he realizes how badly he's hurt Linda when it all comes out.
One version of the script features a scene where Randy Savage and Vince have a conversation about how Savage is popular with young women the same age as Stephanie, leading to Savage telling Vince he would never think of touching her. That is the only time that oft-repeated rumor is mentioned, and you can pretty much guarantee that scene will never see the light of day for all the obvious reasons.
The script opens with a warning that the story is as true as anything in professional wrestling (well, in many cases, the story isn't true, even about professional wrestling) and closes with a post-script about how successful WWE as a company has been in recent years, featuring scenes of the different family members being involved.
Some of the other names that pop up in the different versions of the script include The Iron Sheik (who is seen leaving his family and saying goodbye to them in an AMERICAN accent), Nikolai Volkoff, Bob Backlund, Bruno Sammartino, Jay Strongbow, Baron Mikel Scicluna and many others, legitimate and fictional alike.
So, what happens to this version of the McMahon story now that WWE Studios is on board and with McMahon, will obviously have complete approval power on the project? From speaking to those I know in the Hollywood circles, I am told that at least one complete rewrite will be ordered that will expunge a lot of the racier elements of the script and one would assume, references to Stephanie McMahon and Randy Savage as well as change the characterization of Vince Sr. and others who are featured in the project that don't line up with presentations that Vince McMahon and WWE are happy with. The belief is that since Vince has sold the rights to his life story in order for this project to move forward, he will have complete approval over the final version of the script well before it begins filming.
We are told that process is just starting and new writers may be brought into the fold. There is currently no timetable to bring the film before cameras at this time, so no casting is underway.
So, way before this thing is being produced, it's already adding to the mythos and the strange story of the McMahon family. {Spoiler}We are told there is an amazing scene early on where, in the nudie bar, Linda tells Vince she is pregnant (with Shane McMahon) and Vince declares the mother of his child won't work in a place like this and they leave. The manager tries to stop Linda from leaving before the end of her shift and ends up in a fight with Vince, who trounces him. The script then makes it clear that Linda is turned on by what Vince is done.
I'm now convinced that Vince wrote this himself using "Craig A. Williams" as a pseudonym
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Apr 27, 2017 14:48:45 GMT -5
Linda getting turned on by violence will make this an Oscar winner for sure
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Post by mrtuesday on Apr 27, 2017 14:54:58 GMT -5
There's an old cowboy movie from the 50's called "Shane". It was appearantly one of Vince's favorite movies. Vince sees himself as a real-life version of that character. It's the reason he named his son that.
A WWE-approved movie adout Vince will likely be "Shane" but in the 70's/80's, with wrestling.
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Post by the2ndevil on Apr 27, 2017 15:21:39 GMT -5
This movie is going to be amazing.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Apr 27, 2017 15:58:00 GMT -5
PWInsider has some details on the original project, I guess possible spoilers {Spoiler}{Spoiler}EVERYTHING YOU WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE VINCE MCMAHON MOVIE (POTENTIAL SPOILERS) by Mike Johnson @ 12:31 PM on 4/27/2017
Earlier this week, it was announced that TriStar Pictures would be producing a film based on the life of WWE's Vince McMahon titled Pandemonium.
The script, by Craig A. Williams (who wrote Disney's live action Underdog adaptation few years back) was originally written back in 2015 and has undergone several drafts, the earliest dated 2015. Glenn Ficarra and John Requa, the team behind the excellent NBC drama This is Us are attached to direct, having most recently directed Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot starring Tina Fey. Michael Luisi (head of WWE Studios, which recently came on board after the script was bouncing around Hollywood independent of the WWE) and Aperture Entertainment's Adam Goldworn will produce. Charlie Gogolak of Zaftig Films is listed as Executive Producer, which means that he's involved financially but not involved in the day to day process of bringing the film to life.
So, with Vince McMahon, a controversial figure much larger than life and with such a wealth of stories and colorful characters involved, what would a film on McMahon's life feature? The early drafts of the screenplay, which I am very familiar with after speaking to a number of sources and friends in the Hollywood community, may tell the tale. Obviously, spoiler warnings are included regarding the current vision for the film, although we will touch upon whether this vision will survive as the pre-production evolves.
Based on those I have spoken with, the script begins in the 1970s with Vince, already married to Linda (who is working as a waitress in a nudie bar), frustrated by his different job exploits going nowhere. His frustration is doubled by the fact that when he visits his father (Vince Sr., presented as the old-timey wrestling promoter, cursing up a storm in every scene as he talks down to his son) who's WWWF is featuring half-empty buildings. VInce implores to his father that the audience doesn't care about the wrestling but really wants drama and theatrics. His father doesn't want to hear it and blows his son off, demanding he doesn't get involved in wrestling. There is a scene in a later draft where Vince is exiled to Bangor, Maine to be the local promoter and is blown away after witnessing Led Zeppelin live in the building, realizing the lesson of how important lighting, music, etc. are to changing the pro wrestling presentation.
We are told there is an amazing scene early on where, in the nudie bar, Linda tells Vince she is pregnant (with Shane McMahon) and Vince declares the mother of his child won't work in a place like this and they leave. The manager tries to stop Linda from leaving before the end of her shift and ends up in a fight with Vince, who trounces him. The script then makes it clear that Linda is turned on by what Vince is done.
There is also a "wink-wink" line where Linda says that she and Vince could never be the political type but perhaps their kids will be one day.
Eventually, Vince is brought in as an announcer after his father gets WWOR TV and doesn't want to pay his announcer a "national, union" wage, realizing Vince is family and is exempt from union fees. Vince becomes an announcer and eventually negotiates a one million dollar buyout of his father, keeping Gorilla Monsoon on as his number two. In the earlier drafts, Monsoon is a much bigger character in the film, explained to me as being portrayed as being what Pat Patterson was in the real-life version of WWE. In the early draft, Monsoon ends up on the stand during Vince's steroid trial, playing the role that Hulk Hogan would in real life, as the former McMahon confidante, now forced into a situation against him. A later draft of the script puts Hogan in that role. It was described to me in both versions as being just like Ray Liotta as Henry Hill in Goodfellas facing down his former mob pals when he testifies against them.
A major change from real-life in all the drafts of the script is the idea that Vince Sr. passed away during the McMahon trial, which obviously did not happen. McMahon Sr. passed away before the first Wrestlemania, way earlier than the mid-1990s during the height of the McMahon trial. I was told both versions of the script, Vince and his father have a moment where they make amends before his passing, leading directly into a major scene where McMahon, on the stand in his defense, has a big dramatic monolog about how the government shouldn't be in the business of his and other blue collar people, turning the jury sympathetic to him before he is cleared of all charges. The trial sequences were described to me as very The People vs. Larry Flynt-inspired with the idea that Sean O'Shea, the prosecutor, was out to expose that McMahon's company was playing to kids but really had a disgusting underbelly.
In the craziest twist, over the course of the trial, Vince's infidelities are exposed, shocking his family and after he is found not guilty, there is a scene where Vince is a limo with them as they all rail against him for the terrible person he is, only for them to flip the switch on him and tell him that's the making of their next great heel. So, the Montreal Screwjob never happened and Mr. McMahon, in this version of the story, was inspired by Vince being exposed for being terrible person over the course of the trial. I was told this version is maintained over the different drafts of the script.
During the trial, there is a great scene where Shane and Stephanie McMahon, in High School, are taunted over their father's legal issues, leading to the siblings beating the hell out of their tormentors in a school hallway, beating them into lockers and all, a scene right out of a pro wrestling battle.
The Ted Turner rivalry is brought up, including the infamous "I'm in the 'Rassling Business" phone call that Vince McMahon has recounted over the years, but there's no Eric Bischoff to be found. Instead, in this version, Jim and David Crockett work for Turner and they go after Hogan. I was told the second draft of the script featured more on the Monday Night War but it is not a major factor in the early versions of the script. Verne Gagne is also mentioned and featured in early scenes based around McMahon taking the company national and stealing talent.
Lots of names that were featured by WWF are featured in the script. In one sequence, the film portrays that Vince found Junkyard Dog as a construction worker, Roddy Piper in jail, Jimmy Snuka as a porn actor, etc. and transformed them into pro wrestlers. Obviously, that wasn't the case. I was also told there is a scene where Vince drives Linda to Montreal for their anniversary and throws a fit in a French restaurant because he hated their food, leading to the owner coming out - the owner being Andre the Giants - and that all along, the trip was Vince's way of scouting this giant he has heard of. The idea is that Vince then beings Andre into the business. Again, not how that happened. A later draft features Vince stealing Hogan from the AWA and having him trained. Again, not the way it happened.
I am told there are a LOT of racy elements in the versions of the script that have circulated. Steroid use, including a brawl between Randy Savage and Roddy Piper on a plane, with the idea that it was brought on by roid rage is featured in a later draft. There is a scene in the most recent draft of the film where Hogan is dealing with steroid use hurting his sex drive and indeed, the size of his genitals. There is a scene where a female wrestler propositions Vince, leading to him instead telling Linda (in front of the wrestler) what was suggested, so instead Linda leads Vince into the stands at MSG to do the deed herself with her husband.
Vince and Linda are presented, especially early on, as foul mouthed people who know what business they are in. Linda's one order to McMahon is that he can do whatever he wants to present his persona and the company to the public - lie all he wants - but between them there can only be truth. As their success builds, the two marvel that pro wrestling could sell out Madison Square Garden (of course, it had for decades, but that's not the story the film wants to tell) and that Wrestlemania brings in millions, leading to a scene where they and Monsoon all sit there slack-jawed in happy shock over how the show did. The idea that Vince gets lost in the success (and the sex and drugs and rock and roll that comes with it) is played up while he realizes how badly he's hurt Linda when it all comes out.
One version of the script features a scene where Randy Savage and Vince have a conversation about how Savage is popular with young women the same age as Stephanie, leading to Savage telling Vince he would never think of touching her. That is the only time that oft-repeated rumor is mentioned, and you can pretty much guarantee that scene will never see the light of day for all the obvious reasons.
The script opens with a warning that the story is as true as anything in professional wrestling (well, in many cases, the story isn't true, even about professional wrestling) and closes with a post-script about how successful WWE as a company has been in recent years, featuring scenes of the different family members being involved.
Some of the other names that pop up in the different versions of the script include The Iron Sheik (who is seen leaving his family and saying goodbye to them in an AMERICAN accent), Nikolai Volkoff, Bob Backlund, Bruno Sammartino, Jay Strongbow, Baron Mikel Scicluna and many others, legitimate and fictional alike.
So, what happens to this version of the McMahon story now that WWE Studios is on board and with McMahon, will obviously have complete approval power on the project? From speaking to those I know in the Hollywood circles, I am told that at least one complete rewrite will be ordered that will expunge a lot of the racier elements of the script and one would assume, references to Stephanie McMahon and Randy Savage as well as change the characterization of Vince Sr. and others who are featured in the project that don't line up with presentations that Vince McMahon and WWE are happy with. The belief is that since Vince has sold the rights to his life story in order for this project to move forward, he will have complete approval over the final version of the script well before it begins filming.
We are told that process is just starting and new writers may be brought into the fold. There is currently no timetable to bring the film before cameras at this time, so no casting is underway.
So, way before this thing is being produced, it's already adding to the mythos and the strange story of the McMahon family. As completely bonkers as this could possibly be without turning into pure slapstick
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