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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 17:03:50 GMT -5
Weird, huh?
I just can't stand the nature of some of these events, where most people get nearly naked and make fools out of themselves. I know it serves a purpose, but I feel like the parades reinforce negative stereotypes about gay culture & it often feels like those who are LGBT and don't like these events feel scapegoated.
Obviously, it's my opinion, but I was wondering if there were others with sincere feelings on this topic as well.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jun 10, 2017 17:06:46 GMT -5
If you're watching a parade, don't follow it. It never changes. If the parade is boring, run in the opposite direction. You will fast-forward the parade.
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Post by edgestar on Jun 10, 2017 17:18:55 GMT -5
While I am not LGBTQ, I will respect your opinion, but I will also respect the opinion of those that do enjoy those things.
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Post by Big Poppa Pumpkin on Jun 10, 2017 17:35:55 GMT -5
I love Pride in my city. It always reaffirms my faith in humanity and our local community to see so many people of different races, genders, sexualities, etc. expressing themselves freely with no fear or judgement. Its GREAT! Never seen any negative stereotypical stuff.
and I am straight btw, if that matters
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 18:03:06 GMT -5
You're right on some of the negative stereotypes thing. Granted the people who think all LGBT's are sexual deviants based on the fetishists are likely the ones that will never be convinced or accept there's nothing wrong of being LGBT. I haven't been to a pride parade in years but the last one I went there was 18+ discretion warnings in certain areas which was really appreciative of parents who brought their kids. Because I get that self consciousness of a parent bringing kids to support a family member or friend or just accepting love in general but don't want to expose some of the riskier things to the kids who aren't of that age of knowing the birds and the bee's.
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Jun 10, 2017 18:27:49 GMT -5
I had an old friend who was gay and he couldn't stand any of that stuff.
Honestly the way he acted, talked etc you wouldn't think he was.
He just prefered not to glorify that he was that way.
So I cab get that some people who are Gay/Lesbian/Bi etc don't want to get involved In it.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 10, 2017 18:37:35 GMT -5
Love the party, hate the disco music.
Seriously, what is it with our community and playing heck-awful music? Put on some Against Me or something, I'm sick of hearing the same drag queen badly rendering "I Am What I Am" every year.
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Post by The Captain on Jun 10, 2017 19:00:34 GMT -5
One of my old internet buddies is gay and he hated the parades. But that was a long time ago and his opinion could've changed over time.
But you're definitely not alone in being someone in the LGBTQ+ community that doesn't like the parades, though the reasons why aren't uniform either.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 10, 2017 19:16:22 GMT -5
Meh, straight culture at large will believe stereotypes about LGBT people regardless of how respectable we try to act.
I kind of hate pride parades in the modern day but it's not really because of how people are acting (beyond the fair share of bigotry that occurs even in ostensibly positive spaces) but because the organisers have forgotten the entire meaning of what Pride was about. The first Pride was a riot, and even decades after it was more akin to a political protest with additional focus on visibility. This year's London Pride has parade groups for Barclays Bank, Nandos and Starbucks, but claimed there wasn't enough room for a bisexual group. At some point it transformed into a commercial exercise to squeeze money out of LGBT people.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jun 10, 2017 19:20:28 GMT -5
Honestly, even within the LGBTQ community, there's this weird erasure of bisexual folk and their existence.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 20:21:29 GMT -5
Meh, straight culture at large will believe stereotypes about LGBT people regardless of how respectable we try to act. Straight people aren't as close minded as you think and we don't view gay people as living stereotypes. In fact, you thinking that we think that way is a stereotype about us.
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Post by fw91 on Jun 10, 2017 20:24:01 GMT -5
I heard there were plans in the works for an Asexual pride parade, but they weren't interested.
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Post by FinalGwen on Jun 10, 2017 20:32:33 GMT -5
Meh, straight culture at large will believe stereotypes about LGBT people regardless of how respectable we try to act. Straight people aren't as close minded as you think and we don't view gay people as living stereotypes. In fact, you thinking that we think that way is a stereotype about us. I'm not quite sure how you read "Straight culture at large" as "every single straight person, no exceptions". If you think there aren't still major problems with how LGBT people are percieved, no matter how normally they try to live their lives, I'll remind you that even the most developed nations are trying to decide on a political level whether trans women should be allowed to go to the toilet because they're percieved as being creepy sex maniacs, rather than ordinary women needing to go to the toilet.
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Post by Knailsic From Now On on Jun 10, 2017 20:34:40 GMT -5
I'm bi and I've never been to a pride parade and I'm torn if I want to go. I like the idea of being included in the LGBT community (I haven't had much exposure outside of the Internet) but at the same The hypersexualized aspects turn me off and make me uncomfortable, but that I don't understand their use.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 20:41:33 GMT -5
Straight people aren't as close minded as you think and we don't view gay people as living stereotypes. In fact, you thinking that we think that way is a stereotype about us. I'm not quite sure how you read "Straight culture at large" as "every single straight person, no exceptions". If you think there aren't still major problems with how LGBT people are percieved, no matter how normally they try to live their lives, I'll remind you that even the most developed nations are trying to decide on a political level whether trans women should be allowed to go to the toilet because they're percieved as being creepy sex maniacs, rather than ordinary women needing to go to the toilet. No, I read it correctly. It's exactly what I took offense to. "Straight culture at large" isn't a bunch of backward hicks stereotyping everybody. The vocal minority are the close minded people that stereotype you.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves BBL Bayley on Jun 10, 2017 21:09:35 GMT -5
I'm straight and my brother and I wound up at the parade a few years ago, as the June ROH show fell on the same day. The few hours we spent there was some of the most fun I've had in my life. It was so cool seeing people just let loose and not care what others think. But, yes, to each their own.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2017 21:57:38 GMT -5
Parades in general are annoying. Homecoming parades in college, pro sports victory parades, any kind of "pride" parades.
I'm glad they're out there for people who are into them but it just sounds like a combination of things that are aggravating to me (daytime drunkies, crowds, non-stop yelling and loud music).
I don't think parades reinforce negative stereotypes though. If someone wants to hate gay people, a parade not existing isn't going to do a damn thing to change that. Plus pigeon-holing is on the person doing the pigeon-holing. They need to adjust/expand their perceptions.
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Post by The Captain on Jun 10, 2017 22:12:52 GMT -5
I'm not quite sure how you read "Straight culture at large" as "every single straight person, no exceptions". If you think there aren't still major problems with how LGBT people are percieved, no matter how normally they try to live their lives, I'll remind you that even the most developed nations are trying to decide on a political level whether trans women should be allowed to go to the toilet because they're percieved as being creepy sex maniacs, rather than ordinary women needing to go to the toilet. No, I read it correctly. It's exactly what I took offense to. "Straight culture at large" isn't a bunch of backward hicks stereotyping everybody. The vocal minority are the close minded people that stereotype you. But this vocal minority is also in positions of authority and/or power to really screw things up for the LGBT Q+ community. And even among the not-as-vocal majority of straight people accepting of the LGBT Q+ community, there's negative stereotypes and tasteless jokes made at their expense. We aren't as progressive in that area as we'd like to think or be.
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jun 10, 2017 22:13:48 GMT -5
I had an old friend who was gay and he couldn't stand any of that stuff. Honestly the way he acted, talked etc you wouldn't think he was. He just prefered not to glorify that he was that way. So I cab get that some people who are Gay/Lesbian/Bi etc don't want to get involved In it. I respect gay people who don't flaunt it. Those who get half naked are no better than straight people who streak
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Post by Toilet Paper Roll on Jun 10, 2017 22:21:41 GMT -5
My close cousin who I grew up with is a completely over the top stereotype of a gay person and I love him to death like a brother...
That being said parades generally suck and I hate parades whether they be celebrating a person's sexuality or thanksgiving, they suck if its a giant inflatable Garfield or a giant rainbow penis. Get off my street
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