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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jun 15, 2017 5:37:25 GMT -5
Take-Two has issued a C&D to the developers of OpenIV, a modding tool that everyone who develops GTA mods uses. I guess they decided that predominantly single player mods are too big a threat to GTA Online and the whales that pump money into the microtransactions.
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This is after the CEO showed how much contempt he has for customers that have purchased GTA V but aren't pumping money into Online. It doesn't matter if you've only bought the game once or if you have it on three different platforms, you haven't given enough money to them.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jun 15, 2017 6:52:09 GMT -5
Doesn't the name kind of imply that's open source?
If so, good luck getting it off line.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 15, 2017 7:28:47 GMT -5
This is after the CEO showed how much contempt he has for customers that have purchased GTA V but aren't pumping money into Online. It doesn't matter if you've only bought the game once or if you have it on three different platforms, you haven't given enough money to them. That's the damn truth. None of the vehicles for online get put into SP, none of the new weapons, no heists, and no story DLC. They gotta sell those Shark cards. |
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jun 15, 2017 8:00:47 GMT -5
NEVER GONNA HAPPEN
since it's fan made and therefore untouchable in legal terms
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 15, 2017 8:20:20 GMT -5
NEVER GONNA HAPPEN since it's fan made and therefore untouchable in legal terms I'd sure be interested in the source of that legal doctrine |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 15, 2017 8:27:32 GMT -5
NEVER GONNA HAPPEN since it's fan made and therefore untouchable in legal terms I'd sure be interested in the source of that legal doctrine Yeah... I'm not a lawyer but that is not at all true. Also I like Jim but he implies that Game Developers came up with that system of Whales, etc. where he is wrong... those are Gambling terms. |
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Jun 15, 2017 8:40:39 GMT -5
NEVER GONNA HAPPEN since it's fan made and therefore untouchable in legal terms I'd sure be interested in the source of that legal doctrine i have a recently trademarked hand gesture that i'd like to show the court m'laud .....  now if it is being sold for money, that would be an altogether kettle of fish! |
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Post by xCompackx on Jun 15, 2017 9:00:49 GMT -5
GTA Online never seemed that fun to me. I'd much rather have some single player stuff and since we're not getting that apparently, I'm fine messing around in the game world.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Jun 15, 2017 10:17:38 GMT -5
Meh, what are you gonna do?
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Jun 15, 2017 10:22:35 GMT -5
Meh, what are you gonna do? If it is important to you enough to boycott Take Two, you don't buy the following Grand Theft Auto (duh) Civilization Kerbal Space Program Red Dead NBA 2k XCOM Bully WWE 2k Mafia Manhunt BioShock Borderlands Battleborn Max Payne Spec Ops: The Line Evolve Take Two reportedly sent private investigators to a modders house to intimdate him, back in 2015 www.pcgamer.com/take-two-reportedly-sent-private-investigators-to-modders-home/It is a shame that Rockstar is owned by Take Two, because apparently Rockstar is pretty laid back about all of this kind of stuff |
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 15, 2017 11:00:56 GMT -5
Take-Two is becoming Nintendo levels of tone deafness when it comes to interacting with their fanbase and enforcing their copyrights even when they have no business enforcing anything.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Jun 15, 2017 11:16:53 GMT -5
Meh, what are you gonna do? If it is important to you enough to boycott Take Two, you don't buy the following Grand Theft Auto (duh) Civilization Kerbal Space Program Red Dead NBA 2k XCOM Bully WWE 2k Mafia Manhunt BioShock Borderlands Battleborn Max Payne Spec Ops: The Line Evolve I'm still buying those. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 15, 2017 11:39:39 GMT -5
Meh, what are you gonna do? If it is important to you enough to boycott Take Two, you don't buy the following Grand Theft Auto (duh) Civilization Kerbal Space Program Red Dead NBA 2k XCOM Bully WWE 2k Mafia Manhunt BioShock Borderlands Battleborn Max Payne Spec Ops: The Line Evolve Take Two reportedly sent private investigators to a modders house to intimdate him, back in 2015 www.pcgamer.com/take-two-reportedly-sent-private-investigators-to-modders-home/It is a shame that Rockstar is owned by Take Two, because apparently Rockstar is pretty laid back about all of this kind of stuff Yea f*** that I'm still buying those. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 15, 2017 11:40:14 GMT -5
If it is important to you enough to boycott Take Two, you don't buy the following Grand Theft Auto (duh) Civilization Kerbal Space Program Red Dead NBA 2k XCOM Bully WWE 2k Mafia Manhunt BioShock Borderlands Battleborn Max Payne Spec Ops: The Line Evolve I'm still buying those. Facts. Life without NBA 2K is no bueno. I'm not going back to NBA live. |
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 15, 2017 11:45:28 GMT -5
So basically, everyone company who insinuated that they were cool with mods are proving that they're not (this, Bethesda trying paid mods again).
I get that companies need to make money, but taking the fun things away from fans really is a crummy way to do it. It's not like these games will get more stable if they make more money/take away amateur mods.
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Post by Chainsaw on Jun 15, 2017 11:46:43 GMT -5
If it is important to you enough to boycott Take Two, you don't buy the following Grand Theft Auto (duh) Civilization Kerbal Space Program Red Dead NBA 2k XCOM Bully WWE 2k Mafia Manhunt BioShock Borderlands Battleborn Max Payne Spec Ops: The Line Evolve Take Two reportedly sent private investigators to a modders house to intimdate him, back in 2015 www.pcgamer.com/take-two-reportedly-sent-private-investigators-to-modders-home/It is a shame that Rockstar is owned by Take Two, because apparently Rockstar is pretty laid back about all of this kind of stuff Yea f*** that I'm still buying those. Bullshit. No one bought Battleborn. |
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jun 15, 2017 11:51:36 GMT -5
Yea f*** that I'm still buying those. Bullshit. No one bought Battleborn. I'm on my phone and was too lazy to cross out the ones I don't buy. Special shout out to Mafia III being fun but repetitive as f***. Never finished it |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 15, 2017 11:57:48 GMT -5
So basically, everyone company who insinuated that they were cool with mods are proving that they're not (this, Bethesda trying paid mods again). I get that companies need to make money, but taking the fun things away from fans really is a crummy way to do it. It's not like these games will get more stable if they make more money/take away amateur mods. Rockstar has talked about mods positively, ditto with Firaxis with Xcom but I don't think Take Two ever has... I mean if they had a problem with it they should have told Rockstar not to talk positive about it or... you know not wait years to pounce on this |
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Jun 15, 2017 12:21:57 GMT -5
While it's true that them being fanmade does not automatically make them legal, I really wonder what legal justification Take-Two has for this. OpenIV does not use the original code, T2 and Rockstar do not own any of it, so I'm not sure what argument they could bring up in court to make their case. Add to this that the C & D letter was apparently barely comprehensible and I have to wonder if it even has any legal value. Shame that the OpenIV developers have decided not to fight ont the grounds that they don't want to spend the money, time and energy on this.
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 15, 2017 12:36:19 GMT -5
Only thing I could think of is that it alters the GTA code in some way which Take Two does own.
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