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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 31, 2019 10:56:24 GMT -5
The whole point of the 'her failing' montage was the getting back up. They were as subtle as a hammer to the head with it, but it worked. That's why those guys were "right". It's Rocky storytelling. Apollo won, just like he said he would, but the real victory for Rocky was he went the distance. Carol kept failing, just as the men said she would, but she got back up every time (and, in at least the Air Force section, succeeded after getting up, since she made it into the Air Force).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 11:46:40 GMT -5
The whole point of the 'her failing' montage was the getting back up. They were as subtle as a hammer to the head with it, but it worked. That's why those guys were "right". Duh. Seriously, like you said, it's as subtle as a hammer. But it doesn't change the fact that if you're trying to do the "rah rah girls can be great too!" thing you can't have everyone around her be right when they tell her they can't do things. How about after she falls off the rope we see her getting her wings pinned on for the air force? How about after we see her get up from the crash we see her with a racing trophy? As is, it's a montage of failure.
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Post by chrom on Mar 31, 2019 12:15:54 GMT -5
9.4 away from a billion
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Post by Ryushinku on Mar 31, 2019 16:14:22 GMT -5
Should hit it around...Wednesday, maybe Tuesday if lucky.
Still feeling this one can get close to Civil War, both domestically and worldwide.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 31, 2019 18:00:26 GMT -5
The whole point of the 'her failing' montage was the getting back up. They were as subtle as a hammer to the head with it, but it worked. That's why those guys were "right". Duh. Seriously, like you said, it's as subtle as a hammer. But it doesn't change the fact that if you're trying to do the "rah rah girls can be great too!" thing you can't have everyone around her be right when they tell her they can't do things. How about after she falls off the rope we see her getting her wings pinned on for the air force? How about after we see her get up from the crash we see her with a racing trophy? As is, it's a montage of failure. Duh, exactly. You don't see those things because it's building to her finally succeeding. It IS a montage of failures that she kept fighting through. You don't see those moments cuz there's no build to that triumph otherwise. So yes, duh. The questions you're asking are right there on-screen.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 31, 2019 19:37:24 GMT -5
After the backlash they received from the Iron Man 3 swerve, I doubt they'll be quick to set up Thanos as the big bad in Endgame and have some other villain swoop in and steal his thunder. The long awaited return of Justin Hammer!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 31, 2019 19:42:05 GMT -5
Duh. Seriously, like you said, it's as subtle as a hammer. But it doesn't change the fact that if you're trying to do the "rah rah girls can be great too!" thing you can't have everyone around her be right when they tell her they can't do things. How about after she falls off the rope we see her getting her wings pinned on for the air force? How about after we see her get up from the crash we see her with a racing trophy? As is, it's a montage of failure. Duh, exactly. You don't see those things because it's building to her finally succeeding. It IS a montage of failures that she kept fighting through. You don't see those moments cuz there's no build to that triumph otherwise. So yes, duh. The questions you're asking are right there on-screen. Yeah, I mean when we get to the end of the montage it shows her getting back up every time she falls down. that's literally the point of the montage...
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Post by eJm on Mar 31, 2019 19:54:28 GMT -5
Duh, exactly. You don't see those things because it's building to her finally succeeding. It IS a montage of failures that she kept fighting through. You don't see those moments cuz there's no build to that triumph otherwise. So yes, duh. The questions you're asking are right there on-screen. Yeah, I mean when we get to the end of the montage it shows her getting back up every time she falls down. that's literally the point of the montage... Also, do we really need to see her get her acceptance to the Air Force when one of the earlier scenes is her being a test pilot? You don’t need to see the success up front when the success is already obvious.
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Post by schizo on Mar 31, 2019 21:21:01 GMT -5
The long awaited return of Justin Hammer! Justin Hammer was a really underrated villian. Everytime he was on screen you just want to punch him in the face. Sam Rockwell did a great job in this role IMO
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 21:41:38 GMT -5
You guys are missing the point I'm making. I'm not missing the point of the montage. The point of the montage is obvious. NO ONE could miss the point of the montage.
What I'm saying is, if part of the movie's appeal is to be inspirational to girls than I'd like if they didn't have their lead suck at everything she tries. My frustration is that she is repeatedly told she can't do things and shown to be correct by the following events immediately.
Don't swing on the rope, you aren't strong enough. Don't go so fast, you need to slow down.
These are not decisions that you can overcome through sheer force of will or whatever. She's not being unfairly judged. She's being told she is incapable of doing a task and then she fails at it.
Her standing back up at the end doesn't change any of that. "Hey girls, you shouldn't listen to people who tell you you can't do things - even if you're putting yourself in serious danger doing it - as long as you try it again that's all that matters."
No, because if you suck at it and you're hurting yourself over and over again I want to see improvement more than just standing up.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Mar 31, 2019 21:58:02 GMT -5
You guys are missing the point I'm making. I'm not missing the point of the montage. The point of the montage is obvious. NO ONE could miss the point of the montage. What I'm saying is, if part of the movie's appeal is to be inspirational to girls than I'd like if they didn't have their lead suck at everything she tries. My frustration is that she is repeatedly told she can't do things and shown to be correct by the following events immediately. Don't swing on the rope, you aren't strong enough. Don't go so fast, you need to slow down. These are not decisions that you can overcome through sheer force of will or whatever. She's not being unfairly judged. She's being told she is incapable of doing a task and then she fails at it. Her standing back up at the end doesn't change any of that. "Hey girls, you shouldn't listen to people who tell you you can't do things - even if you're putting yourself in serious danger doing it - as long as you try it again that's all that matters." No, because if you suck at it and you're hurting yourself over and over again I want to see improvement more than just standing up. Carol is simply pissing the night away.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2019 22:04:14 GMT -5
You guys are missing the point I'm making. I'm not missing the point of the montage. The point of the montage is obvious. NO ONE could miss the point of the montage. What I'm saying is, if part of the movie's appeal is to be inspirational to girls than I'd like if they didn't have their lead suck at everything she tries. My frustration is that she is repeatedly told she can't do things and shown to be correct by the following events immediately. Don't swing on the rope, you aren't strong enough. Don't go so fast, you need to slow down. These are not decisions that you can overcome through sheer force of will or whatever. She's not being unfairly judged. She's being told she is incapable of doing a task and then she fails at it. Her standing back up at the end doesn't change any of that. "Hey girls, you shouldn't listen to people who tell you you can't do things - even if you're putting yourself in serious danger doing it - as long as you try it again that's all that matters." No, because if you suck at it and you're hurting yourself over and over again I want to see improvement more than just standing up. Carol is simply pissing the night away. God I love the end of that scene though. Where they're in the train station and it pans back, and you get a sense of just how dangerous being able to shapeshift and slip into a crowd is? Very cool.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Apr 3, 2019 1:25:16 GMT -5
So the movie's set to hit $1 billion worldwide today. Disney/Marvel to neckbeards:
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 3, 2019 1:55:55 GMT -5
So the movie's set to hit $1 billion worldwide today. Disney/Marvel to neckbeards: Meanwhile, neckbeards everywhere:
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Apr 3, 2019 3:30:34 GMT -5
Oh how I love them attempting to spin the narrative in order to justify their beliefs. But I am enjoying hearing, reading, and seeing their whining and crying as it echoes into oblivion while Captain Marvel joins the billion dollar club.
Civil War, Black Panther, Infinity War, Captain Marvel, and Endgame will definitely cross the billion mark. Marvel/Disney has been on a streak and depending on what comes after I don't see it ending soon.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Apr 3, 2019 3:43:10 GMT -5
Civil War, Black Panther, Infinity War, Captain Marvel, and Endgame will definitely cross the billion mark. Marvel/Disney has been on a streak and depending on what comes after I don't see it ending soon. I think Far From Home will certainly push close to a billion. Feige is set on making Peter Parker the face of the MCU's Earth-based side (gotta figure Carol will be the Cosmic figurehead), and it'll be riding the crest of Endgame's wave. Beyond that, I would not rule out Deadpool's MCU debut becoming the first R-rated movie to join the billion dollar club. The first two movies are already the top two highest-grossing R-rated movies of all time, so it wouldn't be out of the realms of possibility.
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Post by mrtuesday on Apr 3, 2019 7:00:33 GMT -5
At this point, Marvel could release a movie that's just 2 hours of paint drying and it'll make a billion dollars.
And it'll be the most epic paint drying ever.
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Post by cabbageboy on Apr 3, 2019 7:40:45 GMT -5
I'm baffled by a lot of these people who rant about this movie. My brother is actually one of them, refusing to even go see it at all, though I think he's just sick of the Marvel movies in general. So I saw it yesterday and it was....a decent movie. Probably a nice *** affair. Nothing life changing. Nothing worth getting into angry fanboy mode about. I have noticed one dilemma when movies or shows go back to the 1990s. Namely there isn't really much period flair to it. Is throwing a Blockbuster and Radio Shack into a movie really a big nostalgia deal? Both were actual places until the past decade or so. Carol's whole semi grunge look with the torn jeans, plaid shirt tied around her waist, and NIN shirt isn't particularly different from a random Hot Topic teen now. I could go to Bardstown Road today and probably see someone that is dressed like that. I guess the dawn of internet crappy connectivity and pager stuff was a little amusing.
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Post by chrom on Apr 3, 2019 12:19:33 GMT -5
Has officially crossed the Billion mark
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 3, 2019 12:49:34 GMT -5
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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