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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Sept 5, 2018 13:52:15 GMT -5
All In Zero Hour did 196,000 viewers which falls in the range of what an episode of Impact and Lucha Underground would do ( source). Wow, that is pretty amazing. I wonder what number WGN usually gets in that time slot, for comparison's sake. Hitting the same numbers as LU and Impact for a show that was only announced weeks ago... so cool.
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Post by Larryhausen on Sept 5, 2018 13:55:35 GMT -5
All In Zero Hour did 196,000 viewers which falls in the range of what an episode of Impact and Lucha Underground would do ( source). Wow, that is pretty amazing. I wonder what number WGN usually gets in that time slot, for comparison's sake. Hitting the same numbers as LU and Impact for a show that was only announced weeks ago... so cool. Also taking into account that LU and Impact are regularly airing shows, with 1 to 5 people watching per tv. This was an event, with people having parties, and I'm sure a few bars might have had the show on. So that means 5 to 30 people per tv.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Sept 5, 2018 14:00:54 GMT -5
Wow, that is pretty amazing. I wonder what number WGN usually gets in that time slot, for comparison's sake. Hitting the same numbers as LU and Impact for a show that was only announced weeks ago... so cool. Also taking into account that LU and Impact are regularly airing shows, with 1 to 5 people watching per tv. This was an event, with people having parties, and I'm sure a few bars might have had the show on. So that means 5 to 30 people per tv. More detail here: www.f4wonline.com/indies/all-zero-hour-draws-nearly-200000-viewers-wgn-america-265211highest rated show on WGN that day, and they made a point in saying that they weren't even in Prime Time *where more people are usually watching* Pretty awesome. A lot of momentum right now, how cool.
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Post by y4j1981 on Sept 5, 2018 14:40:37 GMT -5
All In Zero Hour did 196,000 viewers which falls in the range of what an episode of Impact and Lucha Underground would do ( source). history changing event um yea actually by pulling those numbers it kinda backs the statement up
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2018 15:16:52 GMT -5
Yeah, that number has to be considered very successful given the circumstances of it. Not at all a dent in WWE's numbers, no, but doing TNA-level numbers on very little notice for a preshow with nothing but social media advertising...
Yeah, this is a game-changer.
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Post by Larryhausen on Sept 5, 2018 15:38:16 GMT -5
I'm going to guess that the ppv numbers will fall somewhere close to the WGN rating?
Though it could drastically differ, if these are Nielsen ratings that is.
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Post by eJm on Sept 5, 2018 15:41:38 GMT -5
I’d usually put it in the BTE thread but, well, it feels appropriate here.
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Post by chrom on Sept 5, 2018 15:43:05 GMT -5
That ain't nothing to sneeze out or dismiss, as said it was the top rated program for WGN that night
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 5, 2018 15:44:05 GMT -5
I'm going to guess that the ppv numbers will fall somewhere close to the WGN rating? Though it could drastically differ, if these are Nielsen ratings that is. PPV numbers don't work the same way Nielsen does. It's a strict "number of buyers" model and not a rating system competing with other shows. It could also be months before we know them, as most of the time, the PPV companies want to square away any money transactions they owe or are owed before releasing them.
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Post by Larryhausen on Sept 5, 2018 15:52:50 GMT -5
I'm going to guess that the ppv numbers will fall somewhere close to the WGN rating? Though it could drastically differ, if these are Nielsen ratings that is. PPV numbers don't work the same way Nielsen does. It's a strict "number of buyers" model and not a rating system competing with other shows. It could also be months before we know them, as most of the time, the PPV companies want to square away any money transactions they owe or are owed before releasing them. That's what I meant. I'm just assuming that it was an extremely similar amount of people that watched Zero Hour vs the number of people who bought All In. But there could have been another 100,000 people or so who weren't taken into account in the ratings. I hope I'm making sense here.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 5, 2018 18:09:05 GMT -5
PPV numbers don't work the same way Nielsen does. It's a strict "number of buyers" model and not a rating system competing with other shows. It could also be months before we know them, as most of the time, the PPV companies want to square away any money transactions they owe or are owed before releasing them. That's what I meant. I'm just assuming that it was an extremely similar amount of people that watched Zero Hour vs the number of people who bought All In. But there could have been another 100,000 people or so who weren't taken into account in the ratings. I hope I'm making sense here. Gotcha. Even then, the numbers will only be partial, since they'll be cut into due to the Honor Club deal (and even to a degree, the New Japan replay)
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Post by Glitch on Sept 5, 2018 20:17:56 GMT -5
I finished watching last via new japan stream. It was an amazing show. Especially the Omega/Penta match.
I guess this also means Trevor and Arthur will be out of commission for a while. Their fingers are their livelihood!
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Post by Starshine on Sept 5, 2018 20:23:29 GMT -5
So Marty apparently has heat on him for going too long in his match? Word is he ignored the "go home" signals. What was he thinking? www.fightful.com/wrestling/marty-scurll-denies-reports-his-all-match-kazuchika-okada-went-longThis article has some quotes from Marty Scurll on Sean Mooney's podcast. Apparently the match only went over 1 minute and he didn't go out after the show because he was in the shower and the monitors were off because the broadcast was over. It makes sense, because if the match was really planned to be 12 minutes, it basically would have buried Scurll as the whole story was he couldn't hang with Okada since he wasn't a heavyweight. Marty's full of shit. If the show is running long and you're the penultimate match you cut that time down. It's not all about you. If he can't tell the same story in slightly less time than he and Okada are bad wrestlers. Like, even if you cut it by 5 or 6 minutes, it's still the second longest match on the show. I'm been really getting the vibe that Marty is a pretty self-indulgent dude.
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Post by corndog on Sept 5, 2018 22:42:54 GMT -5
www.fightful.com/wrestling/marty-scurll-denies-reports-his-all-match-kazuchika-okada-went-longThis article has some quotes from Marty Scurll on Sean Mooney's podcast. Apparently the match only went over 1 minute and he didn't go out after the show because he was in the shower and the monitors were off because the broadcast was over. It makes sense, because if the match was really planned to be 12 minutes, it basically would have buried Scurll as the whole story was he couldn't hang with Okada since he wasn't a heavyweight. Marty's full of shit. If the show is running long and you're the penultimate match you cut that time down. It's not all about you. If he can't tell the same story in slightly less time than he and Okada are bad wrestlers. Like, even if you cut it by 5 or 6 minutes, it's still the second longest match on the show. I'm been really getting the vibe that Marty is a pretty self-indulgent dude. Those are his words. If the match was cut by 5 to 6 minutes, they easily could have accomplished the same story. There was a lot of stalling in that match. Also, a lot of the things that happened kind of show why Vince booked his ppvs a certain way. Usually the match before the PPV main event was not a main event level match, sometimes even two or three matches before the main event. This would make it easier to either cut down or just eliminate the match all together if the show is going over. Obviously with the Network you don't see this with WWE PPVs, but you still see it on Raw and Smackdown. Another thing, you can't just blame it all on Scurll. Okada was there and Tiger Hattori as well, who both understand English very well. However, they may not understand the whole time constraint thing, as it doesn't work that way in Japan.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 5, 2018 22:47:54 GMT -5
Marty's full of shit. If the show is running long and you're the penultimate match you cut that time down. It's not all about you. If he can't tell the same story in slightly less time than he and Okada are bad wrestlers. Like, even if you cut it by 5 or 6 minutes, it's still the second longest match on the show. I'm been really getting the vibe that Marty is a pretty self-indulgent dude. Those are his words. If the match was cut by 5 to 6 minutes, they easily could have accomplished the same story. There was a lot of stalling in that match. Also, a lot of the things that happened kind of show why Vince booked his ppvs a certain way. Usually the match before the PPV main event was not a main event level match, sometimes even two or three matches before the main event. This would make it easier to either cut down or just eliminate the match all together if the show is going over. Obviously with the Network you don't see this with WWE PPVs, but you still see it on Raw and Smackdown. Another thing, you can't just blame it all on Scurll. Okada was there and Tiger Hattori as well, who both understand English very well. However, they may not understand the whole time constraint thing, as it doesn't work that way in Japan. That, and you usually don't put a major match right after another one because you want the crowd to have a chance to decompress and recharge again before another big deal match, to not burn out.
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Post by Starshine on Sept 5, 2018 23:47:40 GMT -5
Marty's full of shit. If the show is running long and you're the penultimate match you cut that time down. It's not all about you. If he can't tell the same story in slightly less time than he and Okada are bad wrestlers. Like, even if you cut it by 5 or 6 minutes, it's still the second longest match on the show. I'm been really getting the vibe that Marty is a pretty self-indulgent dude. Those are his words. If the match was cut by 5 to 6 minutes, they easily could have accomplished the same story. There was a lot of stalling in that match. Also, a lot of the things that happened kind of show why Vince booked his ppvs a certain way. Usually the match before the PPV main event was not a main event level match, sometimes even two or three matches before the main event. This would make it easier to either cut down or just eliminate the match all together if the show is going over. Obviously with the Network you don't see this with WWE PPVs, but you still see it on Raw and Smackdown. Another thing, you can't just blame it all on Scurll. Okada was there and Tiger Hattori as well, who both understand English very well. However, they may not understand the whole time constraint thing, as it doesn't work that way in Japan. I'm not just blaming Scurll, I said both he and Okada were mainly to blame if they couldn't cut it down. But Okada also isn't the one trying to make a concession in that he only went 1 minute over his allotted time. Marty is currently suffering from foot in mouth disease for his dumbass defense.
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Post by chrom on Sept 6, 2018 15:29:04 GMT -5
All In drew in a gate total from ticket sales of 458,525 and has made over a million dollars through iPPV sales on the Fite TV App
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2018 15:53:17 GMT -5
All In drew in a gate total from ticket sales of 458,525 and has made over a million dollars through iPPV sales on the Fite TV App Given that's not even factoring in merch sales, which there were probably a ton of... Yeah, sounds like this was a very smart investment.
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Post by eJm on Sept 6, 2018 15:53:25 GMT -5
All In drew in a gate total from ticket sales of 458,525 and has made over a million dollars through iPPV sales on the Fite TV App Also Pro Wrestling Tees sold $500,000 worth in shirts across the weekend.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Sept 6, 2018 17:22:57 GMT -5
All In drew in a gate total from ticket sales of 458,525 and has made over a million dollars through iPPV sales on the Fite TV App The million dollars is an 80/20 split between All In and StarrCast. The belief is a little over 20,000 buys on Fite TV
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