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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 10, 2018 19:01:18 GMT -5
Cody is a big draw actually. The place was on fire for him in Pittsburgh during the Global Wars show. His lines for photos were as long as Omegas. The Bucks moved as fast and Marty's did. Cody has gate numbers that show he is a draw. Shhhh...you're ruining the "Nobody likes Cody and he sucks" narrative that people have built somehow, despite it clearly not being true. Just ignore that post, everyone. And continue to ignore the lines of people waiting to meet him, and the sell out crowds, and the Japanese people loving him, and his good match ratings, and the fact that he has actually made more money on the indies than he did while being on national tv for the biggest arestling company in the world. Move along. Nothing to see there. Just remember, "Cody sucks and no one likes him and he doesn't draw". Hyperbole
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 19:35:14 GMT -5
Hold on a second. Are they running the same day as BOLA or just "the same weekend," but on a day that PWG doesn't have a show? Granted, that's only 400 people that might be at PWG, but that's also 400 people that might travel. I see it's a Saturday. So... the wise move is to run in L.A. during the evening, and PWG books that afternoon in Reseda. Or PWG runs Friday and Sunday.
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Post by Larryhausen on Jan 10, 2018 19:47:23 GMT -5
Hold on a second. Are they running the same day as BOLA or just "the same weekend," but on a day that PWG doesn't have a show? Granted, that's only 400 people that might be at PWG, but that's also 400 people that might travel. I see it's a Saturday. So... the wise move is to run in L.A. during the evening, and PWG books that afternoon in Reseda. Guerilla doesn't usually book that far in advance, but again, if they do this in SoCal around BOLA, it could definitely help with costs.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 10, 2018 19:58:07 GMT -5
so some rumors cannot confirm.
1.Rumors are Sami Callihan, Shane Strickland, Joey Janela, and MJF will be booked
2.If this goes well, New Japan may count on The ELITE to book their North American expansion and break away from ROH
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Post by eJm on Jan 10, 2018 20:08:18 GMT -5
1.Rumors are Sami Callihan, Shane Strickland, Joey Janela, and MJF will be booked I have zero problem with any of those names being booked. Especially Strickland and MJF who are simply MVPs of the indie scene right now.
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Post by honsou on Jan 10, 2018 21:30:37 GMT -5
Those four names make it seem like its going to lean more Indie then faux NJPW show. Wonder if they are going to try to bring in any surprise big names for the show or just assume that the Elite will draw the 10k themselves. Probably a correct decision to not plan around Bryan given that its entirely possible that WWE could clear him at any moment or he has a sudden change of heart in regards to him wrestling.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 10, 2018 23:26:38 GMT -5
Only Cody interests me out of the names so far. Depends who the Bucks are working for me to give a look.
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Post by Fade on Jan 10, 2018 23:30:45 GMT -5
I'm guessing they chose Chicago, and as much of a bummed Southern Californian I am, I'm still stoked for this. I wrack my mind thinking what the ME could be without a big name like Punk or Bryan. Omega/Cody has been slow burning, but I get the feeling that'll happen for NJ and not their event.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 11, 2018 0:24:18 GMT -5
Just as long as they don't book oVe...
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 11, 2018 0:31:06 GMT -5
If they somehow convinced Super Dragon to make this one show the 2018 BOLA, that strikes me as a win for all parties and puts them in the striking zone for the number they set. Pipe dream, but maybe.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jan 11, 2018 0:45:06 GMT -5
Can't wait to see what stops they pull out to make this work. Jericho maybe? Is he touring that day?
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 11, 2018 1:07:08 GMT -5
Just as long as they don't book oVe... Yeah, book Ohio Is 4 Killers or Irish Airborne instead, somehow they don't suck despite being the same team
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2018 1:23:36 GMT -5
Cody is a big draw actually. The place was on fire for him in Pittsburgh during the Global Wars show. His lines for photos were as long as Omegas. The Bucks moved as fast and Marty's did. Cody has gate numbers that show he is a draw. Shhhh...you're ruining the "Nobody likes Cody and he sucks" narrative that people have built somehow, despite it clearly not being true. Just ignore that post, everyone. And continue to ignore the lines of people waiting to meet him, and the sell out crowds, and the Japanese people loving him, and his good match ratings, and the fact that he has actually made more money on the indies than he did while being on national tv for the biggest arestling company in the world. Move along. Nothing to see there. Just remember, "Cody sucks and no one likes him and he doesn't draw". I mean, I'm a huge Cody fan, but you make it sound like people are just plain not allowed to dislike him. Or like someone else liking his matches means they're required to.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Jan 11, 2018 2:08:13 GMT -5
Cody has improved a lot aftrt a lackluster start to his post WWE carwer. I think a lot of it was him needing to find himself as a performer but hes done that. He's not really going to wow you with amazing moves but to say he hasn't helped ROH is not fair... also think hes done a very good job finding his role in New Japan too
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Post by Wolf Hawkfield no1 NZ poster on Jan 11, 2018 2:11:55 GMT -5
Yeah poor DC who's an Olympic wrestler against Cody's scrub division 5 thanks for participating trophies. Ugh this were the same IWC fans who actually thought Punk was gonna win. If there were a fight between DC and Cody Rhodes, let's just all imagine how the Sub Zero original fatality from MK1 would look like in real life. I mean, there were people HERE who thought Becky Lynch could hang with Conor McGregor because she's done some training. Seriously? Though I do feel about having no idea about this Cody and Daniel Cormier twitter beef until today, because I almost pissed myself laughing at the moron who honestly thought that Cody could take DC because he wrestled in high school for about 5 minutes.
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 11, 2018 5:57:16 GMT -5
Cody is a big draw actually. The place was on fire for him in Pittsburgh during the Global Wars show. His lines for photos were as long as Omegas. The Bucks moved as fast and Marty's did. Cody has gate numbers that show he is a draw. Shhhh...you're ruining the "Nobody likes Cody and he sucks" narrative that people have built somehow, despite it clearly not being true. Just ignore that post, everyone. And continue to ignore the lines of people waiting to meet him, and the sell out crowds, and the Japanese people loving him, and his good match ratings, and the fact that he has actually made more money on the indies than he did while being on national tv for the biggest arestling company in the world. Move along. Nothing to see there. Just remember, "Cody sucks and no one likes him and he doesn't draw". People aren't allowed to have negative opinion of him? his average matches? Japanese people loving him? Really? He's a part of a very popular stable. Of course they're going to draw. Nobody is saying he isn't a draw. His time in WWE helps him (no matter how much he or his fans trying to discredit them) & his last name is a plus. Most people are just sick of his matches and his gargantuan push just doesn't match his average matches/promos or whatever antics he does every-time he's in a ring. I can appreciate him for stepping out of WWE comfort and having a decent run out there. But, let's not pretend like he's post TNA AJ Styles, reinventing his career as a elite worker.
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 11, 2018 17:01:38 GMT -5
Omega vs. Cody likely for Supercard of Honor so I would guess that won't be the main event here.
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Jan 11, 2018 18:34:10 GMT -5
Shhhh...you're ruining the "Nobody likes Cody and he sucks" narrative that people have built somehow, despite it clearly not being true. Just ignore that post, everyone. And continue to ignore the lines of people waiting to meet him, and the sell out crowds, and the Japanese people loving him, and his good match ratings, and the fact that he has actually made more money on the indies than he did while being on national tv for the biggest arestling company in the world. Move along. Nothing to see there. Just remember, "Cody sucks and no one likes him and he doesn't draw". People aren't allowed to have negative opinion of him? his average matches? Japanese people loving him? Really? He's a part of a very popular stable. Of course they're going to draw. Nobody is saying he isn't a draw. His time in WWE helps him (no matter how much he or his fans trying to discredit them) & his last name is a plus. Most people are just sick of his matches and his gargantuan push just doesn't match his average matches/promos or whatever antics he does every-time he's in a ring. I can appreciate him for stepping out of WWE comfort and having a decent run out there. But, let's not pretend like he's post TNA AJ Styles, reinventing his career as a elite worker. I think you should probably go back and read the thread, because people have very literally said "Cody isn't a draw". Also, I'm totally fine with people not liking the dude (even though it just smacks of the usual "guy has success, IWC decides to hate him" schtick since they were all about him when he first started his indie run). My problem comes in with the fact that just because THEY don't like him, they act like EVERYONE doesn't like him, and treat that opinion as FACT, despite it clearly not being remotely true. If you don't like the guy, great. But don't try to act like nobody does when there are actual facts in front of you proving otherwise.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Jan 11, 2018 18:59:26 GMT -5
People aren't allowed to have negative opinion of him? his average matches? Japanese people loving him? Really? He's a part of a very popular stable. Of course they're going to draw. Nobody is saying he isn't a draw. His time in WWE helps him (no matter how much he or his fans trying to discredit them) & his last name is a plus. Most people are just sick of his matches and his gargantuan push just doesn't match his average matches/promos or whatever antics he does every-time he's in a ring. I can appreciate him for stepping out of WWE comfort and having a decent run out there. But, let's not pretend like he's post TNA AJ Styles, reinventing his career as a elite worker. I think you should probably go back and read the thread, because people have very literally said "Cody isn't a draw". Also, I'm totally fine with people not liking the dude (even though it just smacks of the usual "guy has success, IWC decides to hate him" schtick since they were all about him when he first started his indie run). The last part is likely what people take issue with. It shouldn’t really smack or that unless it’s the case with the particular person. There’s plenty of people who weren’t on board from the start, and tbh I think there are people who might like him but don’t like the American Nightmare stuff. I think I’m the latter. I’m on sabbatical from NJPW but if his schedule were to free up for G1 it would be good for him.
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Post by Natural Born Farmer on Jan 11, 2018 20:21:15 GMT -5
If they somehow convinced Super Dragon to make this one show the 2018 BOLA, that strikes me as a win for all parties and puts them in the striking zone for the number they set. Pipe dream, but maybe. That was my first thought as well.
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