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Post by héad.casé on Jan 1, 2018 10:34:55 GMT -5
Former WWE writer Tom Casiello was hired by WWE in April 2011 and spent over five years with the company. Speaking to The Agenda Podcast, Casiello said that he many of the wrestlers didn't even bother to learn his name at first due to the high turnover rate among writers. "To say it was rough the first year, is putting it mildly," said Casiello. "The turnover rate for the writers, it's not so bad now, but in 2011, it was brutal. People were coming and going every two months. My first two weeks, even the talent was like, 'We're not gonna learn your name because you're gonna be gone in a week." Casiello continued with a story about meeting John Cena. "He shook my hand and he said, 'I'm not gonna learn your name. You're not going to be here next week.'" Casiello then clarified that Cena's intentions weren't to be mean. "I love John. He wasn't saying it to be a dick. He was saying it because it was probably true. I wasn't cut from the same cloth as these guys. I came from a much more, calmer world, than WWE. "It was brutal that first year. People were not nice. But, I get it. There were a lot of folks coming in who were not lasting longer than two or three weeks. The people who had been there awhile, just assumed I'd be one of them." Casiello worked his way to Managing Lead Writer before being fired in December 2016. www.fightful.com/former-wwe-writer-says-john-cena-didn-t-want-learn-his-name-first |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 1, 2018 10:38:06 GMT -5
I heard that interview a week or two ago... Very interesting.
Fun fact, he was the head writer for NXT Redemption. Thus, based on the timeline, it was some of the first stuff he did in the company.
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Post by thirteen3 on Jan 1, 2018 10:39:35 GMT -5
hiring and firing all these writers can't be cheap.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Jan 1, 2018 10:43:02 GMT -5
Why was Tom fired?
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Post by thecrusherwi on Jan 1, 2018 10:43:19 GMT -5
No Tom, you're wrong. Cena saying that is him being a dick. A prominent employee treating a new hire like that when he is trying to introduce himself is a very dick move.
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Post by héad.casé on Jan 1, 2018 10:47:49 GMT -5
It can't be easy when you're a writer for WWE. Walking on eggshells around the talent, knowing that whatever idea you put forward might not even make it to TV, or if Vince himself really doesn't like it, whether it's good or not - will get buried by him then and there at the meeting, it's a pretty thankless job and i'm not surprised many don't last long.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 1, 2018 10:52:54 GMT -5
hiring and firing all these writers can't be cheap. Especially since they're most likely actually contracted employees who may mostly be union workers too if they're coming from other television backgrounds. At this point, I sometimes don't know why they have writers considering most of their ideas aren't balanced through each other an agreed upon but made to essentially lighten the day of a bus pass user. |
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Post by EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese on Jan 1, 2018 10:55:40 GMT -5
hiring and firing all these writers can't be cheap. Especially since they're most likely actually contracted employees who may mostly be union workers too if they're coming from other television backgrounds. At this point, I sometimes don't know why they have writers considering most of their ideas aren't balanced through each other an agreed upon but made to essentially lighten the day of a bus pass user. Pfft, as if Vince rides a bus. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jan 1, 2018 10:56:59 GMT -5
Especially since they're most likely actually contracted employees who may mostly be union workers too if they're coming from other television backgrounds. At this point, I sometimes don't know why they have writers considering most of their ideas aren't balanced through each other an agreed upon but made to essentially lighten the day of a bus pass user. Pfft, as if Vince rides a bus. Oh, never in a billion years. Just trying to make an OAP joke.  |
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Post by Hypnosis on Jan 1, 2018 11:04:02 GMT -5
Especially since they're most likely actually contracted employees who may mostly be union workers too if they're coming from other television backgrounds. At this point, I sometimes don't know why they have writers considering most of their ideas aren't balanced through each other an agreed upon but made to essentially lighten the day of a bus pass user. Pfft, as if Vince rides a bus. Does Vince still have "The Sexy Bitch"? |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 1, 2018 11:25:24 GMT -5
No Tom, you're wrong. Cena saying that is him being a dick. A prominent employee treating a new hire like that when he is trying to introduce himself is a very dick move. Yeah that's honestly f***ing trash. Wrestling and all of its weird rules and expectations and handshake bullshit is just empty bullshit. |
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 1, 2018 11:42:39 GMT -5
Y'know, we make jokes about the writers and all, but it really does take guts to work for a company with a known reputation for being awful and at least try to bring some new ideas. I mean, it says a lot when working for WWE for 5 years before being fired is an amazing accomplishment and when writers have been made fun of for trying to keep storyboards so this shit makes sense.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jan 1, 2018 12:08:04 GMT -5
No Tom, you're wrong. Cena saying that is him being a dick. A prominent employee treating a new hire like that when he is trying to introduce himself is a very dick move. yeah people get stuck in this weird bubble working for WWE. in literally any other place that sort of talk would be heavily discouraged, even if its true. it's a dick move to talk to a new hire that way and it would be called as such in any other place. |
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Post by Hit Girl on Jan 1, 2018 12:27:45 GMT -5
I realised long ago that the writers are probably fine. The problem is with the editor.
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Post by Chiral on Jan 1, 2018 12:48:41 GMT -5
Being a WWE writer sounds so incredibly miserable.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 1, 2018 12:51:09 GMT -5
Being a WWE writer sounds so incredibly miserable. Being overworked and jerked around through constant revisions and changed minds and sometimes rewrites hours before the show starts, where you don't get any substantial writer's credit for anything and no way to show professionally speaking your contributions to the show, where if you're a non-fan looking to give your career a boost you end up having little to show for it on your own and if you're a fan looking to work for WWE you're considered a mark and mocked for that fact? Yeah I legitimately don't know why anyone would want to take up this gig unless it is some real good pay relative to the rest of the industry. |
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Jan 1, 2018 13:20:43 GMT -5
Why does WWE treat it's writers so shit?
Surely it can't be that hard to realise if they treat them well, they might attract ones who A) stick around and B) ones who aren't shit and so desperate for work that they're willing to put up with WWEs nonsense because it's the only company who will hire them.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Jan 1, 2018 13:21:31 GMT -5
Being a WWE writer sounds so incredibly miserable. I’ve read horror stories on this board years ago. There was stuff like Stephanie chewing out a writer on the phone while later was at a funeral, Vince and Stephanie eating during meetings while the writing team had no food for themselves, and the whole HHH “am I f***ing going over” bit. |
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Post by xCompackx on Jan 1, 2018 14:24:00 GMT -5
Being a WWE writer sounds so incredibly miserable. Being overworked and jerked around through constant revisions and changed minds and sometimes rewrites hours before the show starts, where you don't get any substantial writer's credit for anything and no way to show professionally speaking your contributions to the show, where if you're a non-fan looking to give your career a boost you end up having little to show for it on your own and if you're a fan looking to work for WWE you're considered a mark and mocked for that fact? Yeah I legitimately don't know why anyone would want to take up this gig unless it is some real good pay relative to the rest of the industry. I don't even know if good pay would be worth it with how fast some of these writers end up leaving. I know there's been some who did it out of being fans of WWE (whether they're still fans afterwards is something I'd love to find out), but yeah, I'm not sure what the incentive is. I suppose if you're a writer on a TV show and your material isn't being used, maybe working on a live weekly TV show might be an exciting prospect, but the general bullshit of the wrestling business combined with Vince being actually crazy should put the kibosh on that. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 1, 2018 14:37:27 GMT -5
A lot of these guys are on call, also. They need you here NOW!
No way am I gonna put up with that.
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