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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jan 16, 2018 13:04:29 GMT -5
The Revival are the High School Gym knock-off of the Minnesota Wrecking Crew.
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Post by Gremlin on Jan 16, 2018 13:18:56 GMT -5
I would be thrilled if The Brain Busters show up at Raw 25 and spike piledrive these mooks.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 16, 2018 13:20:12 GMT -5
I really don't remotely think it'd hurt them to be beaten down on a nostalgia show.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Jan 16, 2018 13:27:49 GMT -5
Eh taking some finishers from the vets next week won't hurt them. Being on the main roster in general will do that all by itself. They'll job for a year, wwe will attempt to give them some semblance of a push with no reaction, and then job them again blaming it on them and not the writers/bookers.
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Post by Manute Bol on Jan 16, 2018 13:49:23 GMT -5
Remember when Charlotte debuted on RAW in late 2014 and lost to Natalya? If you do, you're part of an extremely small minority.
I think this is no different; if The Revival gets beat down on Monday it really won't matter in the long run. They are still a blank canvas to the majority of the audience.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Jan 16, 2018 14:00:14 GMT -5
It wasn't too long ago we were talking about how amazing The Revival was, and during the Bullet Club's FTR thing we played along... but it was pretty tongue-in-cheek for the most part. However, with the two alternating injuries for the majority of the year, they have a LOT to prove now. Plus, they don't have the Wizardry of DIY helping them out either. I mean, I LOVE the gimmick as I've always been a huge fan of Arn & Tully, and The Revival have the mannerisms, the movesets and the psychology down to a T, plus modernized it just enough so it doesn't feel dated. But, as I said, the time they've had to take away is a huge detriment to their bottom line. Granted, things happen and what can you do about it? But, that's one of the reasons Roman Reigns received so much backlash that extends to today.... he WAS improving as a singles star, the idea was he was earmarked to headline Wrestlemania the following year, just everyone knew he needed those next 9-12 months to get where he needed to be. Then he got injured, came back, and was still on the same trajectory even though he was still only as good as he was a few months before his injury. At that point, it was hard to get behind him because we hadn't seen the improvement we were looking for, and clearly, it didn't matter to WWE. He was the guy, he's what we're going with.
In this case, The Revival absolutely needs to stay healthy and prove they can knock it out of the park and be the ring generals they were being claimed as in NXT. They do that, they can shed a LOT of the negativity that has been cast towards them. Just that injuries derail momentum and make people start wondering if they're actually as good as we remember, of if there were other factors at play that made them so good... and with D.I.Y. being absolutely amazing in every match they've been a part of, and with Ciampa being gone but Gargano continuing to knock it out of the park... personally, I'm wondering if The Revival are good, or if D.I.Y. made them look amazing.
All I know is, I agree, the promo seemed to set up an all-star ass kicking from some of the guests at the Anniversary. However, if they can get past that and go with the "We Are Professional Wrestlers" thing... I mean, it could get over. It'd only get over with a certain crowd, but it could get over. But the ball is kinda in their court to stay healthy and reclaim their reputation.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jan 16, 2018 15:12:24 GMT -5
I would be thrilled if The Brain Busters show up at Raw 25 and spike piledrive these mooks. Anything for another Arn spinebuster.
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Post by CeilingFan on Jan 16, 2018 15:15:43 GMT -5
I hope the Revival is in the Rumble!
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Post by Chainsaw on Jan 16, 2018 15:22:18 GMT -5
Predicting Dawson takes the Big Boot, the Legdrop of Doom, and the 1-2-3.
I wanna believe that the WWE will do right by them, but history is not on their side.
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Post by DrBackflipsHoffman on Jan 16, 2018 16:12:10 GMT -5
Remember in 1997 when the New Age Outlaws out of nowhere f***ed the Legion Of Doom out of existence? they wrecked them, put them through tables, shaved their heads, the lot. In an ideal world this would be the outcome of The Revival against whoever the f*** it is they're going to put them up against. They'd just go against what more or less everyone is expecting, which is for them to take a Fameasser, a Clothesline From Hell, a Dominator, a whatever else and then for everyone to start dancing and HAVIN FUN HAHAAA I LOVE IT, and imagine instead they just absolutely f***ed up the New Age Outlaws and the APA or whoever. You get a heel team who have zero qualms about f***ing people up and putting them into ambulances. Then you get a team asking them what the f*** and fighting for the legends. Hell put them against f***ing Rikishi and Scotty and have The Uso's feud with them when they kick Scotty's wig into the hundreth row. It should be so easy. But what'll happen is a run through finishers, a bunch of old men dancing around and Michael Cole yelling LEGENDARY.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Jan 16, 2018 16:15:57 GMT -5
I remember the fact it didn't help any of those dudes careers in the long run, and for guys who are supposed to be really good and supposed to be taken seriously, being embarrassed by some old dudes isn't exactly the way to help an act that already lost so much momentum. OK, seriously... a hypothetical for you. Say this happens as you expect it, and The Revival take the legend finisher buffet. Later down the line they're having a title feud with, let's say The Usos, and they're having great matches and they're doing good promos and such. Are you really going to be sitting there with the metaphorical thumb up your ass going "I'm sorry, I can't take these guys seriously because Billy Gunn hit a Fame Asser on Dawson one time, so I don't care"? (This actual scenario happened with The New Day by the way, and I bet them being punked out by Austin, Michaels and Foley at WM32 was the LAST thing on your mind during all those awesome tag matches with The Usos)
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Post by Juice on Jan 16, 2018 18:09:19 GMT -5
More concerned with how not,good they sounded at selling themselves. Terrible mic work.
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Jan 16, 2018 18:25:13 GMT -5
OK, seriously... a hypothetical for you. Say this happens as you expect it, and The Revival take the legend finisher buffet. Later down the line they're having a title feud with, let's say The Usos, and they're having great matches and they're doing good promos and such. Are you really going to be sitting there with the metaphorical thumb up your ass going "I'm sorry, I can't take these guys seriously because Billy Gunn hit a Fame Asser on Dawson one time, so I don't care"? (This actual scenario happened with The New Day by the way, and I bet them being punked out by Austin, Michaels and Foley at WM32 was the LAST thing on your mind during all those awesome tag matches with The Usos) Wasn't it the League of Nations than got punked out, not New Day? I mean, sure, Xavier took a Stunner, but EVERYONE takes Stunners. Funny thing is they actually beat the new day at that mania but everyone got stunners that night though.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 17, 2018 3:59:17 GMT -5
I would be thrilled if The Brain Busters show up at Raw 25 and spike piledrive these mooks. Kinda saddens me how some people seem to hate The Revival now, for the longest time they were one of the BEST acts in NXT and had one of the most must see rivalries with American Alpha... and now some people are calling them high school gym knockoffs of territory guys and would rather see them get knocked around because they're "Mooks" WWE really takes the piss out of everything these days, it's depressing.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 4:51:53 GMT -5
I would be thrilled if The Brain Busters show up at Raw 25 and spike piledrive these mooks. Kinda saddens me how some people seem to hate The Revival now, for the longest time they were one of the BEST acts in NXT and had one of the most must see rivalries with American Alpha... and now some people are calling them high school gym knockoffs of territory guys and would rather see them get knocked around because they're "Mooks" WWE really takes the piss out of everything these days, it's depressing. Or we didn't like them in the first place? Sorry dude, I can see you're a huge fan, but not everyone is going to feel the same. I'm a huge Hunter and Steph fan, a lot of people can't stand them, and want to see them gone. I don't mind that, it's part of fandom.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 17, 2018 7:24:44 GMT -5
Kinda saddens me how some people seem to hate The Revival now, for the longest time they were one of the BEST acts in NXT and had one of the most must see rivalries with American Alpha... and now some people are calling them high school gym knockoffs of territory guys and would rather see them get knocked around because they're "Mooks" WWE really takes the piss out of everything these days, it's depressing. Or we didn't like them in the first place? Sorry dude, I can see you're a huge fan, but not everyone is going to feel the same. I'm a huge Hunter and Steph fan, a lot of people can't stand them, and want to see them gone. I don't mind that, it's part of fandom. Look I know not everyone is going to like the same things but on FAN I never saw people shitting hard on The Revival. A ton of people saw them as an extremely welcomed change of pace to a tag team scene that is now only getting stronger. I'd hate to see them be considered afterthoughts. Also Hunter and Steph have EARNED their hatred, I can name a bunch of things they've done and do worse than "Oh I can't tell them apart"...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2018 7:38:05 GMT -5
Or we didn't like them in the first place? Sorry dude, I can see you're a huge fan, but not everyone is going to feel the same. I'm a huge Hunter and Steph fan, a lot of people can't stand them, and want to see them gone. I don't mind that, it's part of fandom. Look I know not everyone is going to like the same things but on FAN I never saw people shitting hard on The Revival. A ton of people saw them as an extremely welcomed change of pace to a tag team scene that is now only getting stronger. I'd hate to see them be considered afterthoughts. Also Hunter and Steph have EARNED their hatred, I can name a bunch of things they've done and do worse than "Oh I can't tell them apart"... Fair enough, I can't speak for others and I wasn't a member of the board when they were called up so they may well have had that heat killed by WWE for now. I don't think that means they're done for, but having seen guys and girls I like getting flattened on the main roster I know how demoralising that is as a fan, so I concede there. I will say though that not telling them apart is far from the only reason I'm not a fan, that's more indicative of other issues. I think they're straight up bad at what they do on the whole and I don't enjoy watching them. And I understand why people dislike Hunter and Steph, but I like them and the majority of things people dig them out for I enjoyed.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 17, 2018 7:39:55 GMT -5
The "I'm a REAL professional wrestler, not a sports entertainer!" promo is inherently AWFUL. I hate, HATE those kinds of promos. It was stupid when Daniel Bryan pulled that card before his 2013 Cena match, and it's stupid today.
I am NOT going to be rooting for the Revival for a while.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Jan 17, 2018 8:35:47 GMT -5
The brighter spotlight of the main roster has really shown that the two look really really plain and not in a good way.
It was a cute throwback in the smaller and way more flash saturated NXT but on Raw? They just look like a local jobber team.
And now they're throwing out the "Ooooh we said Professional Wrestler. Aren't we edgy? We said a banned term!" crutch. Their whole situation is just kinda sad.
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Post by cjb01: Limited Edition Item! on Jan 17, 2018 9:03:16 GMT -5
The "I'm a REAL professional wrestler, not a sports entertainer!" promo is inherently AWFUL. I hate, HATE those kinds of promos. It was stupid when Daniel Bryan pulled that card before his 2013 Cena match, and it's stupid today. I am NOT going to be rooting for the Revival for a while. Oh don't get me wrong I didn't say that was a good promo. It seemed incredibly forced and it's another reason I think they're screwed. This is the exact same shit they did with The Ascension when they were trashing LOD and shit. It's just unnecessary, if WWE hadn't made "Wrestler" just an ambient term the last few years it wouldn't even have to be a stupid trigger word these days, on top of the whole aspect that they aren't WWE made and all that, Revival were never like this, they were a Throwback to a bygone era, that's what they were, they wanted to prove their style of wrestling superior and that they were the TOP GUYS, that's all you needed to make a good bastard heel team, you didn't need this extra meta digging to try and stir some sort of pot and kind of ensure they're gonna get their asses kicked by old men that might just stick the fork in their main roster run. But WWE loves making MOMENTS more than characters anymore, so that's really what we're getting... at the expense of talent... again.
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