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Post by evilone on Jan 19, 2018 8:39:43 GMT -5
One match cannot defines one's career, sure it can be an excuse for good luck in future endevors due to some other predetermining factors so the match quality is just the right icing on the cake. Like WWE guys over WCW guys.
More fitting question would be Who's career survived after series of bad to horrible matches.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 19, 2018 9:08:07 GMT -5
Bayley vs. Alexa Bliss in Kendo Stick on a Pole just felt like the live assassination of the Bayley character to me, and it just hasn't felt the same since. Yeah. Not that Bayley is beyond repair, I just don't think they're even gonna try. I feel like we're going to look back in 5 years and be completely astounded at how bad they missed a sure thing
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Post by Aceorton on Jan 19, 2018 11:19:43 GMT -5
Marc Mero losing a retirement match to Gillberg as his WWF exit certainly did not do him any favors.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 19, 2018 12:24:02 GMT -5
Dean Douglas not being able to work with Sean Waltman and then Scott Hall.
Say what you want about those two call them junkies or assholes but if you can't work with them you can't work period.
Billy Gunn vs Rock. Billy got exposed so bad, he's another reason why there's a pecking order in wrestling.
Al Snow's performance after he turned heel in the royal rumble, Mick Foley described him as deer in the headlights.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 19, 2018 12:26:00 GMT -5
Kronik vs. the Brothers of Destruction. Brian Adams was brought in partially as a favor to the Undertaker. Match was so bad that it led to the chain of events that led to Kronik's firing shortly after this match. and yet Taker no sold the shit out of them like everyone in WCW during that period, and they got fired for doing the same back.
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Jan 19, 2018 13:25:13 GMT -5
Miz vs. Mizdow being a flop was pretty much the end for Sandow ever doing anything worthwhile in WWE again
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jan 19, 2018 18:59:00 GMT -5
Kronik vs. the Brothers of Destruction. Brian Adams was brought in partially as a favor to the Undertaker. Match was so bad that it led to the chain of events that led to Kronik's firing shortly after this match. and yet Taker no sold the shit out of them like everyone in WCW during that period, and they got fired for doing the same back. Taker during the InVasion angle behaved appallingly. How many guys did he bury? Four? More than that? I know he wasn't booking, but he definitely had the clout to say 'hey maybe if we get these guys over we'd all make more money?'
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 19, 2018 19:12:01 GMT -5
and yet Taker no sold the shit out of them like everyone in WCW during that period, and they got fired for doing the same back. Taker during the InVasion angle behaved appallingly. How many guys did he bury? Four? More than that? I know he wasn't booking, but he definitely had the clout to say 'hey maybe if we get these guys over we'd all make more money?' Imagine Taker getting told off for having 10 minute back and forth matches instead of 3 minute squashes. Like "Just watch me care"
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jan 19, 2018 19:37:47 GMT -5
One match cannot defines one's career, sure it can be an excuse for good luck in future endevors due to some other predetermining factors so the match quality is just the right icing on the cake. Like WWE guys over WCW guys. More fitting question would be Who's career survived after series of bad to horrible matches. Not quite. Neidhart was used as a JTTS after his Who run
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Post by berlynwright on Jan 20, 2018 2:11:22 GMT -5
Curt Hawkins' indy run never took off after that disaster vs AJ at BOLA
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Jan 20, 2018 2:49:06 GMT -5
Miz vs. Mizdow being a flop was pretty much the end for Sandow ever doing anything worthwhile in WWE again Miz vs. Mizdow was the best storyline in the company for several months while it was going on, but then they proceeded to completely destroy the ending on what should be the easiest story to tell ever. Oh well, because once Sandow was left to his own devices in TNA, he destroyed any desire I ever had to see him perform anyway.
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Post by Rave on Jan 20, 2018 7:15:19 GMT -5
Bart Gunn vs. Butterbean, shouldn't need to explain this one Harmed it, yep. Killed it completely? Surprisingly, nope. Him knocking out Dr. Death got his foot in the door over in Japan after WWF canned him, he had a six year run there before retiring. Nothing particularly noteworthy, though he was a regular tag partner of ol' Clownshoes for a good chunk of that time.
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Post by Woo on Jan 20, 2018 12:57:27 GMT -5
Steiner against Triple H royal rumble 03. Booker T was plan b lol Scott was planned in that main event and to win the belt. That match cost him millions of dollars and being on the main event scene. Steiner didn't even last a year in the company, and he pretty much became a lower card guy, couldn't happen to a nicer guy. This is actually a series of matches but Heidenreich lost all cred when not even the Undertaker could get a good match out of him, same thing with Kozlov. Steiner was in the 2004 Rumble. I geek bad for him, he had a broken foot in the 03 Rumble and I blame HHH just as mitch as Scott for that bitch being terrible. Also not even The Undertaker could get a good match out of Heidenreich? While I agree that Heidenreich sucked having a bad match against Taker means nothing at all. It's not as if Taker is this measuring stick of ring work and it's usually him who has to be carried.
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Post by Woo on Jan 20, 2018 13:02:53 GMT -5
Would Tom Magee's match against Bret Hart be considered a career destroyer? Didn't they match make him look like a supee worker?
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Jan 20, 2018 16:17:34 GMT -5
Would Tom Magee's match against Bret Hart be considered a career destroyer? Didn't they match make him look like a supee worker? You know, for all the shit Bret gets for things he wrote in his book, and accusations of exaggerations or hyperbole or lying, I find it amusing this one story is taken as gospel. That’s the one people believe. He had an amazing match with Magee, was never taped and there’s no evidence of. Yes, Bret had the match and said he made Magee look so good, Vince was declaring backstage Magee was going to be his next champ.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jan 20, 2018 18:17:34 GMT -5
Steiner against Triple H royal rumble 03. Booker T was plan b lol Scott was planned in that main event and to win the belt. That match cost him millions of dollars and being on the main event scene. Steiner didn't even last a year in the company, and he pretty much became a lower card guy, couldn't happen to a nicer guy. The fact that he wasn’t booked for Wrestlemania two months later that year is a testament to how bad that match was. Didn’t they have an even worse match the following month at No Way Out? To be fair, didn't Steiner injure his foot around that time? I remember him having issues with it. If he had not had an injury, it could have gone well.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 20, 2018 18:24:18 GMT -5
The fact that he wasn’t booked for Wrestlemania two months later that year is a testament to how bad that match was. Didn’t they have an even worse match the following month at No Way Out? To be fair, didn't Steiner injure his foot around that time? I remem ber him having issues with it. If he had not had an injury, it could have gone well. Allegedly Steiner didn't tell Vince how bad the drop foot was, but still the wwe didn't do their due diligence in clearing the guy or at least send him to ovw to see how he would fare in the ring. Christy Hemme against Trish Stratus in wrestlemania. She was never featured in anything important after that.
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Post by Tenshigure on Jan 20, 2018 18:30:27 GMT -5
One that quickly comes to mind is Ayako Hamada v Lady Shani v Rosemary v Sexy Star from Triplemania XXV. The crap Sexy Star pulled nearly crippling Rosemary and the backlash in the aftermath has more or less blacklisted her from any respectable company (which of course means AAA will have her back next year...).
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 20, 2018 19:26:07 GMT -5
Steiner against Triple H royal rumble 03. Booker T was plan b lol Scott was planned in that main event and to win the belt. That match cost him millions of dollars and being on the main event scene. Steiner didn't even last a year in the company, and he pretty much became a lower card guy, couldn't happen to a nicer guy. This is actually a series of matches but Heidenreich lost all cred when not even the Undertaker could get a good match out of him, same thing with Kozlov. Steiner was in the 2004 Rumble. I geek bad for him, he had a broken foot in the 03 Rumble and I blame HHH just as mitch as Scott for that bitch being terrible. Trips was pretty awful during that run and basically his only good main events were with Shawn and his hell in the cell with Nash.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Jan 20, 2018 19:35:55 GMT -5
It didn't run his career but it did ruin his run in Georgia. There's the semi-famous story of Tony Atlas' first run in Atlanta. Week 1 he cuts a promo, week 2 he announces he's gonna bench press 500 lbs and wants the crowd be there to encourage him, week 3 he does it. Then in week 4 he has his first match. It goes over 10 minutes before he beats the TV job guy. He gets to the locker room and Ole tells him he has to let him go because he completely exposed his gimmick.
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