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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 19:48:22 GMT -5
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 22, 2018 19:49:01 GMT -5
Back on topic from the AB4L stuff, please. Like another user said; if there's any way they can attain DNA from anything (hair, semem, etc.) & trace it back to him, he's in deep doo-doo. Does the company just terminate him then & there? I don't know if there's any precedence for it, but yeah, my guess is he'd be terminated. From all signs, though, sexual harassment/assault and their zero tolerance policy is the same as WWE's domestic violence policy, where we HAVE seen precedent for in the past. If that's the case, it's likely to assume the policy is: When they're accused or arrested for it, they get automatically suspended, but the company doesn't officially terminate their contract until they are convicted. If they could get DNA and trace it back to him, that'd likely mean he's going to get convicted for it (and the Adam Rose situation makes it clear WWE could "choose" to release him earlier, albeit with claims Rose asked for his release there)- but as far as the WWE precedent we've seen goes, WWE won't officially terminate his contract until he's formally found guilty. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 22, 2018 19:51:38 GMT -5
Between this and the Roman Reigns-steroid situation there is some Papa Shango levels of affliction on WWE right now Papa Shango hates Wrestlemania season apparently. |
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jan 22, 2018 19:52:26 GMT -5
Got fired because she told management Bill DeMott was sexually harassing her. Bearing in mind it's most of the same management since then, either they grew up a lot or hired better PR and HR since then. Well, if this case does open the floodgates, I'm sure Ivelisse wasn't the only one. It's only a matter of time. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 19:52:28 GMT -5
Between this and the Roman Reigns-steroid situation there is some Papa Shango levels of affliction on WWE right now I mean, he has supposed to be in the rumble for years now. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 19:53:04 GMT -5
Damn, I hope it's not true, but with Enzo being in the same town as when she's claiming, and the police confirming there was a call regarding the reported assault, seems like it's damning right now. I do have to ask though - with something as serious as this, why hasn't it been followed up on since October? Really it just boils down to rape investigations take time and money and a lot of places don't have the proper manpower to get to them in a timely manner. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 22, 2018 19:54:30 GMT -5
Unless it's found that he's unequivocally innocent, you gotta think he's probably done. Optics wise, especially in the current climate, a publicly traded company ain't gonna keep someone around if there's even a question of guilt.
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Post by Reflecto on Jan 22, 2018 19:54:38 GMT -5
I’m curious as to who he wrestled that night . Just out of morbid curiosity All signs from this was that it happened on a four day layoff. The day before, he fought on 205 Live in Seattle, and three days later he'd wrestle at a house show in St.Louis. So, he didn't wrestle anyone that night. |
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Post by Juice on Jan 22, 2018 19:56:20 GMT -5
Boy oh boy oh boy is wrestling Twitter an ugly place right now. You’re not kidding. There are gifs of Enzo in the elevated cage. Memes like the rapist guy in the room and what have we here, a cupa rapists? People are understandably divided on this but some of the back and forth attacking is just too much. Can you send me links to those accounts? |
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Post by BigAl on Jan 22, 2018 19:56:40 GMT -5
Unless it's found that he's unequivocally innocent, you gotta think he's probably done. Optics wise, especially in the current climate, a publicly traded company ain't gonna keep someone around if there's even a question of guilt. And your new impact wrestling champ, in oh wait he can't go to Canada now |
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Post by Dukect on Jan 22, 2018 19:57:37 GMT -5
Damn this is so horrible I feel for the victim and I hope she can find peace and if its 100% true Enzo should be "Benoit" just have him never mentioned ever again and as for the 205 live stuff I honestly don't know what WWE should do as it stands right now they should just end the show and have the most interesting and over guys go to Raw or Smackdown IMHO.
But yeah this whole situation is just terrible and with #Metoo going on I think it's going to get a whole lot worse for the WWE and you know what so be it. The only way to get rid of vermin is to bring them out into the light and fumigate that is the only way to make sure this stuff is never tolerated ever again.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Jan 22, 2018 19:58:04 GMT -5
I’m curious as to who he wrestled that night . Just out of morbid curiosity All signs from this was that it happened on a four day layoff. The day before, he fought on 205 Live in Seattle, and three days later he'd wrestle at a house show in St.Louis. So, he didn't wrestle anyone that night. Thanks. All I could find for Raw was the ST Louis on the 20th and the event happening on the 19th. Was just wondering if it was a break or just no results showing up |
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jan 22, 2018 20:00:17 GMT -5
You’re not kidding. There are gifs of Enzo in the elevated cage. Memes like the rapist guy in the room and what have we here, a cupa rapists? People are understandably divided on this but some of the back and forth attacking is just too much. Can you send me links to those accounts? His name is trending on twitter. Just look it up. I saw all that stuff from just doing that. I didn’t keep track of what account posted what. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 20:11:21 GMT -5
Some questions are raised with the timing. This happens in October, Enzo is not charged yet but they are still looking into it, WWE presumably is aware of it in October but keeps Enzo on the roster (and continues to push him as champion and even begin a romance angle for him) and it was all kept out of the press (no mean feat Enzo is a wrestler the tabloids would be interested in). Now a few months later the alleged victim goes public while the police are still considering if charges should be brought, that surely brings its own risks at the least it would make a future potential jury selection more difficult due to Enzo being well known. I doubt the cops/DA are happy (it should be noted my knowledge of the US legal system only comes from John Grisham novels). And WWEs hand is forced. I guess the main questions would be related to why this is all happening now? Maybe both victim and company got word the cops have enough to drop the hammer so felt confident in outing/suspending Enzo respectively.
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Post by Juice on Jan 22, 2018 20:13:25 GMT -5
Can you send me links to those accounts? His name is trending on twitter. Just look it up. I saw all that stuff from just doing that. I didn’t keep track of what account posted what. Thanks anyway. Not,seeing any-why I asked. |
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Jan 22, 2018 20:18:06 GMT -5
His name is trending on twitter. Just look it up. I saw all that stuff from just doing that. I didn’t keep track of what account posted what. Thanks anyway. Not,seeing any-why I asked. It’s a lot to muddle through. I wasn’t reposting them here either. I don’t want to rush to judgment or make light of the situation. |
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Post by avenger on Jan 22, 2018 20:21:00 GMT -5
As I always say with threads like these People who are proven to have commited a crime, will end up in a court of law Those who make false accusations without evidence will end up in a court of law. If you don't have evidence, then don't accuse. This isn't always the case, especially with rape. If US law is anything like UK law, the fact that she went to medical facility for mental health reasons would be used by the defence as to why she was not a reliable witness. Which, with most rape victims suffering PTSD in the form of flashbacks, because it is a traumatic event, it's difficult to even get a trial. So the rape that causes the mental health problems (in a lot of cases) can't be prosecuted because of the mental health problem caused by the rape. A friend of mine worked as a mental health nurse for several years, often working with victims of rape. Only two victims even got their day in court. I mean, it doesn't help her case that she sells nudes on snapchat. If it's true, Enzo is scum, but if it's not true, she's picked an easy guy to target. She also has a YouTube video up saying she faked a pregnancy and talking about how crazy she is, FYI. I think Enzo is a piece of shit...but all it takes is a quick look at this girls twitter to know she’s f***ed up, with a history of lying about some serious shit. The fact that they can't even spell their alleged rapist's name right raises red flags with me. That's all I'm gonna say on this piece. It's victim blaming attitudes like these that not only make it easier for rapists to target women like these, but also stops them reporting cases of rape. If you're wondering, in the US:  In the UK:  In Canada:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2018 20:23:34 GMT -5
Some questions are raised with the timing. This happens in October, Enzo is not charged yet but they are still looking into it, WWE presumably is aware of it in October but keeps Enzo on the roster (and continues to push him as champion and even begin a romance angle for him) and it was all kept out of the press (no mean feat Enzo is a wrestler the tabloids would be interested in). Now a few months later the alleged victim goes public while the police are still considering if charges should be brought, that surely brings its own risks at the least it would make a future potential jury selection more difficult due to Enzo being well known. I doubt the cops/DA are happy (it should be noted my knowledge of the US legal system only comes from John Grisham novels). And WWEs hand is forced. I guess the main questions would be related to why this is all happening now? Maybe both victim and company got word the cops have enough to drop the hammer so felt confident in outing/suspending Enzo respectively. WWE almost certainly didn’t know about it in October. Hell, Enzo probably didn’t even know there was an investigation. No charges or anything have been filed, so why would Phoenix PD tip their hand that they were investigating? |
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Post by bob on Jan 22, 2018 20:25:10 GMT -5
damn....
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 22, 2018 20:25:11 GMT -5
I just thought. This is gonna put them under a real microscope for a while, say if they want to roll out known wife beater Steve Austin or something...
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