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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 23, 2018 14:18:46 GMT -5
I'm kind of surprised we didn't get a "Severed All Professional Ties" wording like we got after Jeff Hardy's drug bust.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 23, 2018 14:18:50 GMT -5
As I said earlier, the writing was on the wall here. In the midst of MeToo, companies aren't gonna keep you around if there's even a whiff of scandal.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:19:22 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:20:12 GMT -5
I couldn't find a direct link to this but I found someone saying Pro Wrestling Sheets, I don't know how reliable they are, is saying that the investigation is into the lab tests phase at the moment. Which sounds like it might as much be a gesture of, "They're for sure about to nail this guy and we want his ass gone before people can hold it against us," on WWE's part.
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Post by Jokaine on Jan 23, 2018 14:20:21 GMT -5
See, I get that and don't disagree. But for example, when Kobe Bryant was accused of rape I said the same thing. Why would a rich, famous, fairly attractive, and talented individual of Kobe's stature have to rape anyone? He could literally have any woman he wanted, same with Michael Jackson being accused of child molestation, and I say that for Enzo as well. These men make more money than any of us will see in our lifetime and it just doesn't make sense for them to rape anyone. I sincerely hope it's not true and that he didn't just throw away his career like this. He was one of the highlights for me in the Cruiserweight division. rape does not make sense. You're lookin at it like these dudes are makin a logical decision based on 'well I could get sex any time, why would I rape?' rapists aren't just after sex. Did Kobe get convicted? |
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Post by lionheart21 on Jan 23, 2018 14:20:33 GMT -5
See, I get that and don't disagree. But for example, when Kobe Bryant was accused of rape I said the same thing. Why would a rich, famous, fairly attractive, and talented individual of Kobe's stature have to rape anyone? He could literally have any woman he wanted, same with Michael Jackson being accused of child molestation, and I say that for Enzo as well. These men make more money than any of us will see in our lifetime and it just doesn't make sense for them to rape anyone. I sincerely hope it's not true and that he didn't just throw away his career like this. He was one of the highlights for me in the Cruiserweight division. rape does not make sense. You're lookin at it like these dudes are makin a logical decision based on 'well I could get sex any time, why would I rape?' rapists aren't just after sex. Exactly. Like mentioned already, this has nothing to do with sex. It's all about power, holding that control over another person and knowing that the rapist got pleasure out of their victim's pain. They know that if they try to talk about it, not only will they have to relive that pain, but they also have to try to prove it to the general public, which we've seen does not always end up going well, and can even exacerbate that feeling of pain, even when there is proof. |
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Post by Shai on Jan 23, 2018 14:21:03 GMT -5
The fact that he knew and didn't tell WWE...Jesus if you knew without a doubt you were innocent wouldn't you be hightailing it to the billion dollar company you work for for some legal assistance?
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 23, 2018 14:22:45 GMT -5
If true, holy f*** dude! How do you figure that was in any way a good idea in any scenario? I'm guessing he was hoping to pay her off before this went public. That, making hay while the sun was shining before it'd blow up on him, thinking it'd get dropped on its own, or even just denial of reality. In any case, honestly, the only scenario it's not an outright stupid move is also the most bleak. |
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Post by cabbageboy on Jan 23, 2018 14:22:56 GMT -5
There has to be more to this than has been made public. Look, I am no fan of Enzo and think he sucks, but to suspend and release someone without him being indicted yet seem a bit like a rush to judgement. If he is convicted then fine, but if there are no charges even filed? The release seems as much for the not telling WWE part as the actual accusations.
To think a few weeks ago we nearly had a cruiser title match of Enzo vs. Swann. One guy is suspended now for a weird incident with his wife and the other guy is an accused rapist.
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Post by The Captain on Jan 23, 2018 14:24:04 GMT -5
rape does not make sense. You're lookin at it like these dudes are makin a logical decision based on 'well I could get sex any time, why would I rape?' rapists aren't just after sex. Did Kobe get convicted? No because his legal team leaked the identity of his accuser and slut-shamed her into oblivion. That combined with the threats made against her by scumbag Kobe fans after her identity got leaked pressured her to drop her accusations. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:25:42 GMT -5
Best news of the year for WWE to finally sack that piece of excrement & wipe him from the records.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 23, 2018 14:26:07 GMT -5
If this is the case, can't say I fault WWE for not firing him on the spot, just since this is probably a lot to take in and mount a response to in short order, particularly with everything they had on their plate. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:27:02 GMT -5
No because his legal team leaked the identity of his accuser and slut-shamed her into oblivion. That combined with the threats made against her by scumbag Kobe fans after her identity got leaked pressured her to drop her accusations. This was back when victim blaming was preferred by people. |
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Post by Dub H on Jan 23, 2018 14:27:05 GMT -5
Yeh, by not telling the company he was going to be fired regardless of guilty or innocent.
But doesn't help his case either.
At one point I considered him one of the most entertaining man. Never had this feeling before of feeling guilty over enjoying someone before.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:28:01 GMT -5
There has to be more to this than has been made public. Look, I am no fan of Enzo and think he sucks, but to suspend and release someone without him being indicted yet seem a bit like a rush to judgement. If he is convicted then fine, but if there are no charges even filed? The release seems as much for the not telling WWE part as the actual accusations. To think a few weeks ago we nearly had a cruiser title match of Enzo vs. Swann. One guy is suspended now for a weird incident with his wife and the other guy is an accused rapist. ....... Of course there is more to this but it's definitely not looking good for Enzo. Fact is that he didn't tell the company and I'm 99% sure they tell all of their employees to let them know of anything like this so they can prepare. This is all on Enzo regardless if he's innocent. It's a stupid stupid move. |
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Post by Tenshigure on Jan 23, 2018 14:28:07 GMT -5
Wow...there goes four months of storylines for 205 Live right in the toilet. I'd be surprised if the show makes it to the end of the year at this rate, every person they've put in the top spots have either been injured, arrested, or walked away from the company. So much information to process, on top of the whole rape allegation thing too...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:29:06 GMT -5
There has to be more to this than has been made public. Look, I am no fan of Enzo and think he sucks, but to suspend and release someone without him being indicted yet seem a bit like a rush to judgement. If he is convicted then fine, but if there are no charges even filed? The release seems as much for the not telling WWE part as the actual accusations. To think a few weeks ago we nearly had a cruiser title match of Enzo vs. Swann. One guy is suspended now for a weird incident with his wife and the other guy is an accused rapist. Could be that WWE wants none of this attention. Innocent until proven guilty and all that but that doesn't keep WWE safe from public scrutiny keeping him employed. |
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Post by joeiscool on Jan 23, 2018 14:29:25 GMT -5
This probably didn't help things much either. Sounds like that's probably what made them decide to ditch him. And that he's apparently been aware of it for months while just keeping it to himself is not a good look on him at all. Yeah, this is probably the whole reason they released him. He put WWE in a position where they could have looked bad. However I'm not sure what that says abut him. Right now they are accusing him, there aren't actual charges. The investigation is looking to see if there's any evidence that could show that a crime happened. They are waiting for the results of a medical test. IF he believes himself to be innocent, lets say he had no contact with the woman. I could see him just wanting to ride it out to the eventual negative test result. Def not what I would do especially in this climate, but it wouldn't attach a judgement value if it was the case. |
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Jan 23, 2018 14:30:55 GMT -5
Given the current circumstances. How does the WWE react to this regarding 205 Live?
Do they just say the cruiserweight championship is vacant and have tournament? They have to acknowledge it at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:31:29 GMT -5
Yeh, by not telling the company he was going to be fired regardless of guilty or innocent. But doesn't help his case either. At one point I considered him one of the most entertaining man. Never had this feeling before of feeling guilty over enjoying someone before. Tell me about it. I thought he was putting in some of the best work of anyone in the company over the last 4 or 5 months. I would've even been fine with him somehow winning the Rumble. This whole thing makes me sick to my stomach. |
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