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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 23, 2018 14:41:03 GMT -5
I say this. Say "f*** 205" and just have a tourney for a 205 Champion. Have the champion fight guys in other weight classes and the reason he's champion isn't because he's the guy with the best, it's because he's the most impressive guy under 205. If there's someone they think is better? Have said person go against the champion and the winner is the champion until someone else is as impressive under that weight limit. Sure they wouldn't do it but I'm trying to find a way to have the 205 guys mingle with other talent. I'd just kill 205 Live at this point. Dump most of the guys in NXT, keep Gulak and maybe Kendrick on the main roster, and cut the ones they don't intend to do anything with. The whole division's just been more trouble than it's worth. Have the rest of the Zo Train (plus TJP) help Almas beat Gargano at TakeOver and become Los Ingobernables de NXT. |
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Post by The Trashman on Jan 23, 2018 14:41:25 GMT -5
Good riddance
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Post by Ron Woodsman aka Shempaholic on Jan 23, 2018 14:42:01 GMT -5
WWE is lucky Enzo caught the flu when he did. At least they don't have to try and write him out of the Mixed Match Challenge.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:43:06 GMT -5
I’m not going to rush to any judgment (I work for a Public Defenders Office, so innocent until proven guilty is pretty deeply instilled in me), but the fact that WWE has now outright released him rather than suspending him pending a resolution of the case does not bode well for Enzo. According to their stated policy, that means they’ve reviewed whatever facts are available to this extraordinarily early point in the case and decided that, whether or not he’s guilty of a crime, the factual circumstances under which he’s been accused constitute a violation of the so-called “morals clause.” It’s also very strange to me that as far as i can tell, it’s gotten to this point without there being some kind of statement from Enzo or his lawyers. Even something like “we are not going to comment on this ongoing investigation”. The silence is deafening. Has any news come out that Enzo was even aware he was being investigated? I haven’t seen any and I could see a scenario where Enzo was just as “blindsided” as WWE. Typically, when a high-level felony case like this in the investigative phase, the police wouldn’t be letting a suspect know. That’d just be incentive to try and cover something up or run off - in my experience, you’re usually not notified you’re a suspect until very close to the point that charges are going to be filed. I don’t know one way or another, just curious if that’s the actual stated reason he was released. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:43:31 GMT -5
Unbelievable. Released with no proof. Hopefully he is cleared and gets his job back. He was most likely released for the fact he knew about the investigation and didn't tell them about it. Innocent or guilty that's just a phenomenally stupid thing to do that opened the door for WWE to potentially end up in some serious hot water. Yeah, I think that's the key part here. As soon as I saw one of the top tweets saying "he knew about the allegations but didn't clue WWE in," his release made sense. He'd have been screwed even if he had done that anyway, I figure, but it'd have been something that resembles responsibility - but for the bosses to find out the same time Joe Q. Public does......that's not good in any corporate sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:44:18 GMT -5
I’m not going to rush to any judgment (I work for a Public Defenders Office, so innocent until proven guilty is pretty deeply instilled in me), but the fact that WWE has now outright released him rather than suspending him pending a resolution of the case does not bode well for Enzo. According to their stated policy, that means they’ve reviewed whatever facts are available to this extraordinarily early point in the case and decided that, whether or not he’s guilty of a crime, the factual circumstances under which he’s been accused constitute a violation of the so-called “morals clause.” It’s also very strange to me that as far as i can tell, it’s gotten to this point without there being some kind of statement from Enzo or his lawyers. Even something like “we are not going to comment on this ongoing investigation”. The silence is deafening. Has any news come out that Enzo was even aware he was being investigated? I haven’t seen any and I could see a scenario where Enzo was just as “blindsided” as WWE. Typically, when a high-level felony case like this in the investigative phase, the police wouldn’t be letting a suspect know. That’d just be incentive to try and cover something up or run off - in my experience, you’re usually not notified you’re a suspect until very close to the point that charges are going to be filed. I don’t know one way or another, just curious if that’s the actual stated reason he was released. |
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Post by The Trashman on Jan 23, 2018 14:45:07 GMT -5
Neville must not seem like such a bad guy right about now
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:45:25 GMT -5
He's been keeping this shit under wraps since October. Holy f***.
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Post by ada2 on Jan 23, 2018 14:46:16 GMT -5
Innocent until proven guilty. I know some might not be shocked that Enzo got fired but I can’t believe it — there has been no charge against him and we don’t know what has happened - if it’s true then he deserves what happens to him if it’s not true then he has lost his dream job through a false accusation
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:46:21 GMT -5
I'd just kill 205 Live at this point. Dump most of the guys in NXT, keep Gulak and maybe Kendrick on the main roster, and cut the ones they don't intend to do anything with. The whole division's just been more trouble than it's worth. Seriously, kill the cursed atrocity. Split the dudes and engrain them on both rosters. Guaranteed they'll find more success that way than keeping this stupid division afloat. Can't say I disagree, even as someone who finds 205 Live way more entertaining than either Raw or SD. No one on that show is over besides Enzo and maybe Gulak and Tozawa a little bit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:48:40 GMT -5
Has any news come out that Enzo was even aware he was being investigated? I haven’t seen any and I could see a scenario where Enzo was just as “blindsided” as WWE. Typically, when a high-level felony case like this in the investigative phase, the police wouldn’t be letting a suspect know. That’d just be incentive to try and cover something up or run off - in my experience, you’re usually not notified you’re a suspect until very close to the point that charges are going to be filed. I don’t know one way or another, just curious if that’s the actual stated reason he was released. Gotcha. Then yeah, it makes perfect sense why he was released. I would assume being a suspect in a rape investigation and not letting your employer know constitutes a violation of the morals clause haha. I’m still stunned by Enzo and/or his legal team’s silence up to this point, but that statement is probably forthcoming. |
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Jan 23, 2018 14:50:24 GMT -5
This probably didn't help things much either. Oh, I think this was VERY much a factor, if true Even if he unearthed video evidence of his alibi being that he was too busy curing cancer, not telling your bosses that push you on TV every week that you're ACCUSED OF RAPE is going to get you shitcanned. |
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Post by Kyn on Jan 23, 2018 14:50:43 GMT -5
What a clusterf*** of a situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 14:51:06 GMT -5
Innocent until proven guilty. I know some might not be shocked that Enzo got fired but I can’t believe it — there has been no charge against him and we don’t know what has happened - if it’s true then he deserves what happens to him if it’s not true then he has lost his dream job through a false accusation Innocent until proven guilty only applies to the government and any company can drop people that have brought the company into a bad spot like this. I'm not saying you cannot have the innocent until proven guilty as your feeling on these things, just it is not something held to by private parties. |
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jan 23, 2018 14:51:06 GMT -5
What is Eric Dice Clay doing in the impact dilapidated church in Canada??
Yep I don't feel bad for Enzo let the mocking begin.
You're not gonna be a G in the joint and you can't teach that. Bada boom better ask for protective custody or you'll be sold for cigarettes.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jan 23, 2018 14:51:18 GMT -5
Innocent until proven guilty. I know some might not be shocked that Enzo got fired but I can’t believe it — there has been no charge against him and we don’t know what has happened - if it’s true then he deserves what happens to him if it’s not true then he has lost his dream job through a false accusation If it's not true, he lost his dream job because he sat on a rape charge for four months. He's not blameless here. |
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Post by Tenshigure on Jan 23, 2018 14:53:10 GMT -5
I say this. Say "f*** 205" and just have a tourney for a 205 Champion. Have the champion fight guys in other weight classes and the reason he's champion isn't because he's the guy with the best, it's because he's the most impressive guy under 205. If there's someone they think is better? Have said person go against the champion and the winner is the champion until someone else is as impressive under that weight limit. Sure they wouldn't do it but I'm trying to find a way to have the 205 guys mingle with other talent. I personally think they should've gone the X Division route and remove the whole stupid weight limitation. |
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Post by Toxik916 on Jan 23, 2018 14:54:23 GMT -5
Gotta commend WWE here. Releasing him was the appropriate action even if it was just to save company face.
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Post by bob on Jan 23, 2018 14:54:58 GMT -5
wow.....
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jan 23, 2018 14:55:23 GMT -5
Innocent until proven guilty. I know some might not be shocked that Enzo got fired but I can’t believe it — there has been no charge against him and we don’t know what has happened - if it’s true then he deserves what happens to him if it’s not true then he has lost his dream job through a false accusation If it's not true, he lost his dream job because he sat on a rape charge for four months. He's not blameless here. Not to mention that if he handled this properly (well, as properly as possible, under the courtesy of assumption of innocence until proven guilty), he may have been able to have access to WWE's legal department. Sure as shit not now. |
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