Doctor Of Style
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Jan 23, 2018 15:46:09 GMT -5
Entire show should've taken place at the Manhattan Center. All of that effort and money setting the place up, wasted... And leave the live gate and merch sales from 15,000 people or so at Barclays on the table? That sounds like something WCW would've done. |
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 23, 2018 17:48:40 GMT -5
Just speaking honestly, I thought it was clear that Barclays was going to be getting the main show while the Manhattan Center was going to get the nostalgia stuff. If you bought tickets for the latter expecting what the former got, then that's on you. If they were so upset, then voice it during the DX segment. That had every chance to bitch and boo and crap on that whole thing. Instead, they cheer and chant and go batty the entire time. I'm not saying they shouldn't feel upset, but they really should have known what they were going to get. They didn't even really get the nostalgia stuff, and reportedly spent much of the match toiling around watching the Barclay's Center get the real meat of things, intercut with some backstage segments. They got a small handful of short, shitty matches, and I don't blame them for not derailing the DX thing, because when you're starving for something to do and something you're excited for, most peoples' gut instinct is to stop being f***ing miserable for a moment and enjoy what they came here for. Barclay's even got most of the legends (Stone Cold, the GMs and women bits, the end-of-show line-up of everyone they lazily crammed onto the show) so the distinction doesn't even really add up. Seeing Taker and DX come by to talk a little bit is neat but it's not what you sell 550 dollar tickets with. Nostalgia-wise, the Manhattan Center got all of the biggest stars outside of Austin. They had Taker, HBK, Triple H, Hall. Those were the four biggest names outside Austin. When you consider that there were probably 2K fans in the Manhattan Center vs. 16K fans in Barclays, you had to figure at least 2/3 of the show would be from Barclays. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 23, 2018 18:10:27 GMT -5
They didn't even really get the nostalgia stuff, and reportedly spent much of the match toiling around watching the Barclay's Center get the real meat of things, intercut with some backstage segments. They got a small handful of short, shitty matches, and I don't blame them for not derailing the DX thing, because when you're starving for something to do and something you're excited for, most peoples' gut instinct is to stop being f***ing miserable for a moment and enjoy what they came here for. Barclay's even got most of the legends (Stone Cold, the GMs and women bits, the end-of-show line-up of everyone they lazily crammed onto the show) so the distinction doesn't even really add up. Seeing Taker and DX come by to talk a little bit is neat but it's not what you sell 550 dollar tickets with. Nostalgia-wise, the Manhattan Center got all of the biggest stars outside of Austin. They had Taker, HBK, Triple H, Hall. Those were the four biggest names outside Austin. When you consider that there were probably 2K fans in the Manhattan Center vs. 16K fans in Barclays, you had to figure at least 2/3 of the show would be from Barclays. A combined ten minutes of awkward promo time featuring a bunch of legends isn't worth the cost of near-premium ticket prices, WWE didn't convey at all just how horrible the gulf in content for either crowed would be, and with the size of their roster there is still no excuse to not provide both venues with decent shows that don't have them openly complaining and chanting for refunds. If the privilege of existing in the smae space as DX and Taker was worth 550 to that crowd then this conversation wouldn't be happpening. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 18:52:03 GMT -5
I don't get why they couldn't just do, "Match or segment in arena A, match or segment in arena B, repeat." It surely couldn't be THAT hard to balance out and I'm sure it'd have made it a lot easier for those on either side if they knew roundabout when it'd be cutting back to them.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 23, 2018 20:15:04 GMT -5
Five hundred dollars? I wouldn't pay that for Mania.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jan 23, 2018 20:21:56 GMT -5
Being petulant about being petulant about being petulant. What a journey we've been on today. At this point, Mr. Perry, I think the answer is everyone? Steve's birthday was yesterday. It was his party, he can cry if he wants to, cry if he wants to. |
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Post by KofiMania on Jan 23, 2018 20:33:10 GMT -5
I don't get why they couldn't just do, "Match or segment in arena A, match or segment in arena B, repeat." It surely couldn't be THAT hard to balance out and I'm sure it'd have made it a lot easier for those on either side if they knew roundabout when it'd be cutting back to them. 8 times as many people in one building vs. the other. |
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Post by axebomber on Jan 23, 2018 20:36:41 GMT -5
Like why not at least give Goldust a match at Manhattan Center?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2018 20:37:47 GMT -5
Like why not at least give Goldust a match at Manhattan Center? The word that's made the rounds is originally he was going to face Enzo and the Dudleys spot was going to be saving him from the Zo Train. |
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Post by Mozenrath on Jan 23, 2018 20:46:46 GMT -5
Like why not at least give Goldust a match at Manhattan Center? The word that's made the rounds is originally he was going to face Enzo and the Dudleys spot was going to be saving him from the Zo Train. That is having me cut a little slack for WWE, though not a ton. The Enzo situation can't have exactly been helping everyone's mind be in the game, and that includes backstage roles. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Jan 23, 2018 20:54:55 GMT -5
I don't get why they couldn't just do, "Match or segment in arena A, match or segment in arena B, repeat." It surely couldn't be THAT hard to balance out and I'm sure it'd have made it a lot easier for those on either side if they knew roundabout when it'd be cutting back to them. 8 times as many people in one building vs. the other. And the crowd with 1/8th the number of people having to pay just as much for a show. Doesn't matter if twenty people out front; when you're in show business you don't f*** over a paying crowd for not being "big enough" to deserve their moneys' worth. |
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Post by crowley1986 on Jan 23, 2018 21:14:03 GMT -5
They should've had an all night bit where, Vince doesn't get a stunner and Austin "hunts" him down to the Manhattan Centre and do it there in the final moments of the show
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Post by FAR5222 on Jan 23, 2018 21:37:29 GMT -5
Those same super fans are gonna be at the Rumble this Sunday so honestly they don't deserve any type of refund even it was possible.
I was at Barclays last night people were displeased at Taker and DX being there just like those at the Manhattan Center being mad about stuff that happened at Barclays. The show should have just been done at Barclays and thats it. WWE is smart and dumb. They made so much money off the super fans that attend the 4-5 big PPVs plus the 15,000 at Barclays.
They alienated the same fans past, current and lapsed. The show is getting negative reactions from people there at Barclays and the Manhattan Center and viewers at home. There was no love put into booking this show period.
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Post by TheMediocreWarrior on Jan 23, 2018 22:53:59 GMT -5
- The Club vs The Revival, The Revival lost quick and clean... and then got beat down by old dudes. Aw crap. So WWE did the same thing to the Revival that they did to The Ascension? Such a stupid waste. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jan 23, 2018 22:58:18 GMT -5
- The Club vs The Revival, The Revival lost quick and clean... and then got beat down by old dudes. Aw crap. So WWE did the same thing to the Revival that they did to The Ascension? Such a stupid waste. eh... sorta? Revival weren't wrestling DX... The beatdown came after they wrestled Gallows and Anderson who are in the middle of a push. I believe Ascension were fresh and didn't have a match. |
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Post by slaughterama on Jan 24, 2018 0:58:07 GMT -5
Big problem was this being the go-home show before the Rumble. They had no idea how to balance a nostalgia show / hype up the Rumble show. To be fair, there is no easy way to do it, and they probably should never have even tried it.
That said, if they were hellbent on running both venues, they could have run 2 hours from Hammerstein 7:00-9:00 with the 8:00-9:00 part shown live, and run Barclay's from 8:00-11:15 with 9:00-11:15 shown live. There's plenty they could do with the dark hour before going to TV with all they have.
With how they chose to do it, the least they could have done for the Hammerstein crowd was to have talent hit the stands for pics and autographs. Something to get their focus off the fact they were being served a steamy poop sandwich.
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Post by romanstylesiii on Jan 24, 2018 1:16:17 GMT -5
meh, if they were going to piss of a crowd, the must smaller one is the one to do so.
The gate of Barclay's Center was a few hundred thousands
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Post by thetower52 on Jan 24, 2018 1:17:37 GMT -5
The amount of hate some people have for certain fans is f***ing insane.
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Post by Nic Nemeth on Jan 24, 2018 1:21:47 GMT -5
They should have just did a segment switch at each arena for the entire show.
For example:
Barclays - Promo 1
Manhattan - Match 1
Barclays - Match 2
Manhattan - Promo 2
Barclays - Match 3
Manhattan - Match 4
etc.
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Post by Nikki Heyman on Jan 24, 2018 1:43:06 GMT -5
The amount of hate some people have for certain fans is f***ing insane. This. Let people spend money the way they want to. Would I have paid $$$ for either of those shows? I certainly would have to say I was part of history. Some of us would spend $$$ to see a certain band live or visit a certain place. Should you be mocking people for that? Some people would spend $$$$$$ on a fast car. Are they dumb because I only spent $$$$ on a car that does what I need it to do? I don't make fun of gamers who spend $$$$ on their computer setup when I spend half that to do what I need it to do. |
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