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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 4:25:19 GMT -5
Dexter had like 3 great seasons, and then you put up with a bunch of bad or mediocre seasons because you wanted to see it play out.
And then you regretted sticking around at the end too.
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Feb 15, 2018 4:32:07 GMT -5
House during the corrupt detective arc
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Post by Reflecto on Feb 15, 2018 4:32:41 GMT -5
Happy Days. Arthur Fonzarelli was so over that he literally jumped a ****ing shark at the start of season five, yet show ran for 11 seasons. I'm not sure there has been a TV character in my lifetime who has reached the height of Fonzie's popularity. Closest I can think of since Fonzie was Urkel. Fonzie might have had 2 Saturday morning cartoons,but Urkel had a dance and his own cereal. Even then, it ties into the "Wrestling" joke that started the thread for both of them: Fonzie and Urkel are the only two examples in TV history where "An established TV show saw a fringe character catch fire, then proceeded to recalibrate the whole show to be built around that character to make it a featured player or star of the show, and do this without the show dying in the process of it". Pro wrestling does that multiple times a year.
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Post by Sephiroth on Feb 15, 2018 6:57:43 GMT -5
Seinfeld
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Post by hossfan on Feb 15, 2018 7:18:26 GMT -5
When George's fiancee died and everyone in the gang basically shrugged it off could have been a moment where people turned on the show. The characters were always self-absorbed and neurotic, but the episode made them out to be full-blown sociopaths, and traditionally on a television show you want someone in the cast you can root for and find likeable. Seinfeld pretty much bucked this trend.
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Post by The Barber on Feb 15, 2018 7:32:10 GMT -5
How did The Flintstones do when Gazoo turned up? That was the last season. You be the judge. Then of course we got The Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm Show, the Flintstone Comedy Hour, Fed and Barney Meet the Thing, The Flintstone Kids, WWE meets the Flintstones....yeah you can't kill that franchise off. Hanna Barbera (much like Disney) milks their franchises until they dry up.
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Post by edgestar on Feb 15, 2018 7:32:52 GMT -5
Happy Days. Arthur Fonzarelli was so over that he literally jumped a ****ing shark at the start of season five, yet show ran for 11 seasons. I'm not sure there has been a TV character in my lifetime who has reached the height of Fonzie's popularity. Closest I can think of since Fonzie was Urkel. Fonzie might have had 2 Saturday morning cartoons,but Urkel had a dance and his own cereal. Urkel had a doll, too!! I had one, when I was 4
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 7:40:45 GMT -5
How did The Flintstones do when Gazoo turned up? That was the last season. You be the judge. Then of course we got The Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm Show, the Flintstone Comedy Hour, Fed and Barney Meet the Thing, The Flintstone Kids, WWE meets the Flintstones....yeah you can't kill that franchise off. It's nowhere near as viable as Scooby-Doo, though, which seems to release a movie every fiscal quarter and a new series every other year. I still believe Vince wanted a Flintstones WWE and Jetsons WWE movie even though those properties, animation wise, had been either dead or in cold storage for decades.
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Post by cabbageboy on Feb 15, 2018 8:47:56 GMT -5
How about the entire long winded Pelant storyline on Bones? Talk about a B grade heel that kept popping up constantly over the course of about 2 seasons. Or any subplot on Bones involving Angela's love life that didn't involve Hodgins. Actually the Pelant deal might be more "jump the shark" territory than what this thread means, but the Angela stuff definitely fits.
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Post by Vice honcho room temperature on Feb 15, 2018 10:30:30 GMT -5
When George's fiancee died and everyone in the gang basically shrugged it off could have been a moment where people turned on the show. The characters were always self-absorbed and neurotic, but the episode made them out to be full-blown sociopaths, and traditionally on a television show you want someone in the cast you can root for and find likeable. Seinfeld pretty much bucked this trend. As someone who never watched Seinfeld was George's fiance even tolerated by the viewing audience? I mean if the audeince doesn't like her would they care if the characters don't give a shit?
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Post by hossfan on Feb 15, 2018 10:37:44 GMT -5
When George's fiancee died and everyone in the gang basically shrugged it off could have been a moment where people turned on the show. The characters were always self-absorbed and neurotic, but the episode made them out to be full-blown sociopaths, and traditionally on a television show you want someone in the cast you can root for and find likeable. Seinfeld pretty much bucked this trend. As someone who never watched Seinfeld was George's fiance even tolerated by the viewing audience? I mean if the audeince doesn't like her would they care if the characters don't give a shit? She wasn't cast as a terrible person, but I'm sure most fans didn't want her around because she would have messed with the show's overall dynamic, and hoped she would eventually be written off (likely by wising up and dumping George). Actually killing her off was a bit extreme though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2018 11:38:28 GMT -5
For people who weren't alive then, it's probably hard to imagine how big the Simpsons was in the early '90s until you realize that it's pretty much been coasting on that level of good will for about 22 years.
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Post by BorneAgain on Feb 15, 2018 11:46:52 GMT -5
TNG is an unusual example in that its its early seasons (1 & 2 is) where it basically survived because of the Star Trek name (with Brent Spiner & Patrick Stewart's acting talents helping make some awful episodes at least watchable).
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 15, 2018 12:20:07 GMT -5
I think Walking Dead might be sorta tip-toeing around that area currently. They're VERY much teetering on it
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Feb 15, 2018 12:28:19 GMT -5
Family Guy.
I can't even watch it anymore.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 15, 2018 12:32:23 GMT -5
Full House after bailing on Danny/Vicky getting married.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Feb 15, 2018 12:47:25 GMT -5
TNG is an unusual example in that its its early seasons (1 & 2 is) where it basically survived because of the Star Trek name (with Brent Spiner & Patrick Stewart's acting talents helping make some awful episodes at least watchable). I don't know, the last season was pretty dumb. Remember the episode when Dr. Crusher got porked by a ghost?
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 15, 2018 12:52:20 GMT -5
That was the last season. You be the judge. Then of course we got The Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm Show, the Flintstone Comedy Hour, Fed and Barney Meet the Thing, The Flintstone Kids, WWE meets the Flintstones....yeah you can't kill that franchise off. Was the Fred and Barney as cops cartoon part of the Comedy Hour? I have vague memories of that. Not quite. There was a Flintstone Comedy SHOW, which is where the confusion comes in. TFCH was cut to a half hour in syndication, so they renamed it the Comedy SHOW there too. But the "real" FCS I believe had the cops, Captain Caveman with Wilma and Betty, and others. AKA the "Flintstone Funnies". TFCH had the same cast from the Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm Show pretty much. And the musical numbers.
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Post by BorneAgain on Feb 15, 2018 12:52:38 GMT -5
TNG is an unusual example in that its its early seasons (1 & 2 is) where it basically survived because of the Star Trek name (with Brent Spiner & Patrick Stewart's acting talents helping make some awful episodes at least watchable). I don't know, the last season was pretty dumb. Remember the episode when Dr. Crusher got porked by a ghost? True, but season 7's dubious episodes fall more into "boring bad" rather than face palmingly embarrassing bad like the first two seasons (the aforementioned Sub Rosa AKA "Beverly gets laid by a ghost episode" excepted).
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Feb 15, 2018 12:57:36 GMT -5
I don't know, the last season was pretty dumb. Remember the episode when Dr. Crusher got porked by a ghost? True, but season 7's dubious episodes fall more into "boring bad" rather than face palmingly embarrassing bad like the first two seasons (the aforementioned Sub Rosa AKA "Beverly gets laid by a ghost episode" excepted). TNG was definitely running out of steam by season seven, but it was acknowledged as their last season anyway, so I would think it gets a pass. It still had very good episodes like Parallels, Pegasus, Lower Deck. And of course now season seven also has the series finale of Enterprise. How weird...
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