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Post by The Rick Jericho on Feb 28, 2018 6:18:15 GMT -5
Remember the days when people challenged the Rumble winner for the shot at the February or March pay per view?
Owen Hart in 1997
Steve Austin in 1999
Big Show in 2000
Triple H in 2001
Kurt Angle in 2002
Gone are the days where the Rumble winner title shot meant something eh?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 28, 2018 6:24:39 GMT -5
If they wanted it so bad, then they should have won the Rumble. Tough shit.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 28, 2018 6:27:09 GMT -5
I would have booked Cena wanting to prove himself against Nakamura again for his title shot just to give an extra spin towards the build to AJ/Nakamura. Cena could have felt he has something to prove against AJ and Nakamura has an obstacle to that match with AJ.
Instead, even though he did qualify to get in, dude's just another extra body in a full match that had no reason to be this full in the first place.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Feb 28, 2018 6:34:24 GMT -5
The Rumble winner defending the shot is really dumb. Why would anyone risk injury going potentially an hour in a grueling match only to defend the title shot at one of the guys who wasn't good enough on that night to win it?
They should probably find Shinsuke something to do at Fastlane, but why portray him as the dumbest man on the planet by putting his golden ticket at stake?
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Post by Sparkybob on Feb 28, 2018 10:35:07 GMT -5
The Rumble winner defending the shot is really dumb. Why would anyone risk injury going potentially an hour in a grueling match only to defend the title shot at one of the guys who wasn't good enough on that night to win it? They should probably find Shinsuke something to do at Fastlane, but why portray him as the dumbest man on the planet by putting his golden ticket at stake? Yes but what if John Cena makes a gesture that implies that Shinsuke is a chicken? |
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Post by Lupin the Third on Feb 28, 2018 10:39:45 GMT -5
Remember the days when people challenged the Rumble winner for the shot at the February or March pay per view? Owen Hart in 1997 Steve Austin in 1999 Big Show in 2000 Triple H in 2001 Kurt Angle in 2002 Gone are the days where the Rumble winner title shot meant something eh? I don't remember Owen's story in 97, but the others had good stories to them. 1999: Vince won the Rumble to screw with Austin, and didn't want to face The Rock, as he was his champion. But Commish HBK brought out that rule that if the Rumble Winner forfeits his WrestleMania shot, the Runner-Up gets it. Austin put his shot at The Rock on the line just so he could finally kick Vince's ass in a match. 2000: Big Show felt he was robbed, said The Rock's feet touched first. After review, the Regime granted him a match against the Rock. 2001: Austin/Trips feud climax. But they couldn't lay a hand on each other. If Austin did, he would be stripped of a title shot at WrestleMania, and if Trips did, he'd be suspended. 2002: Trips/Stephanie feud. Stephanie was trying to screw HHH out of a shot at the title after Trips won the Rumble, but their "marriage" fell apart. |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Feb 28, 2018 10:43:11 GMT -5
I don't remember Owen's story in 97, but the others had good stories to them. Presumably he meant 1996, when he challenged Michaels for the shot he won at that year’s Rumble. |
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Post by Bobeddy on Feb 28, 2018 10:43:38 GMT -5
Remember the days when people challenged the Rumble winner for the shot at the February or March pay per view? Owen Hart in 1997 Steve Austin in 1999 Big Show in 2000 Triple H in 2001 Kurt Angle in 2002 Gone are the days where the Rumble winner title shot meant something eh? There was also 2006 where Orton goaded Rey into putting his title shot up with the infamous "Eddie's in hell" promo. Orton got the pin by grabbing the ropes and that's what led to the Triple Threat at Mania 22. |
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Feb 28, 2018 11:01:36 GMT -5
John Cena is a PART-TIMER.
Let that sink in for a minute and then tell me if you don't think that he deserves that shot. I feel he doesn't. It should have stayed AJ-Nakamura.
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Post by sunnytaker on Feb 28, 2018 11:08:02 GMT -5
don't worry that's plan Q on cena's "paths to get to wrestlemania because i'm john cena and don't have one yet oh woe is me!"
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Post by A damn road sign on Feb 28, 2018 11:14:29 GMT -5
Naw, you want a WrestleMania main event nowadays, you just get yourself into a feud with Roman Reigns amirite?
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Post by Sam Punk on Feb 28, 2018 11:39:38 GMT -5
I hope so. This is one of those things I wish they would move away from. This and the automatic re-match clause when someone loses a title. You lose a title, you move to the bottom of the pack!
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Feb 28, 2018 11:45:00 GMT -5
don't worry that's plan Q on cena's "paths to get to wrestlemania because i'm john cena and don't have one yet oh woe is me!" he'll then wander into NXT looking for a match at Mania... Regal will then try to explain to him that they have their own show that weekend and won't be at Mania... this concept will confuse and irritate Cena  |
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Post by Rolent Tex on Feb 28, 2018 11:45:54 GMT -5
I hope so. This is one of those things I wish they would move away from. This and the automatic re-match clause when someone loses a title. You lose a title, you move to the bottom of the pack! Eh. Fine. But you personally get to tell Brock his ass is lower on the totem pole than Curt Hawkins after Mania is over. |
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Feb 28, 2018 11:51:56 GMT -5
Remember the days when people challenged the Rumble winner for the shot at the February or March pay per view? Owen Hart in 1997 Steve Austin in 1999 Big Show in 2000 Triple H in 2001 Kurt Angle in 2002 Gone are the days where the Rumble winner title shot meant something eh? Did Triple H challenge for the shot? I thought it was just a match to blow off their feud and since Hunter won the match and didn't challenge, I think that is all it was unless some shenanigans happened afterwards. On the idea in general, I understand the need for it because it feels like the challenger is stuck in a weird limbo for a while nowadays and giving them anything to do that isn't involved with the title tends to feel meaningless. I have always enjoyed the G1 Climax winner defending their title but that also happens because someone beat them in the tournament and they want to avenge that whereas that doesn't exist in the Rumble. They either do need to make this something expected of the Rumble winner (because putting it up yourself can be silly) or just make more interesting stories for them in the month between the Rumble and Mania build. |
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Post by OGBoardPoster2005 on Feb 28, 2018 12:01:42 GMT -5
Remember the days when people challenged the Rumble winner for the shot at the February or March pay per view? Owen Hart in 1997 Steve Austin in 1999 Big Show in 2000 Triple H in 2001 Kurt Angle in 2002 Gone are the days where the Rumble winner title shot meant something eh? Did Triple H challenge for the shot? I thought it was just a match to blow off their feud and since Hunter won the match and didn't challenge, I think that is all it was unless some shenanigans happened afterwards. On the idea in general, I understand the need for it because it feels like the challenger is stuck in a weird limbo for a while nowadays and giving them anything to do that isn't involved with the title tends to feel meaningless. I have always enjoyed the G1 Climax winner defending their title but that also happens because someone beat them in the tournament and they want to avenge that whereas that doesn't exist in the Rumble. They either do need to make this something expected of the Rumble winner (because putting it up yourself can be silly) or just make more interesting stories for them in the month between the Rumble and Mania build. Hunter didn't challenge. He wanted to face Austin because Austin cost him against Kurt at Rumble IIRC. Owen challenged in 1996 because he took out Shawn at the end of 1995. I think Shawn made the Vince/Austin match at St. Valentines Day Massacre after Vince cheated to win the Rumble. Big Show challenged because of the controversial ending to the Rumble match. Kurt didn't challenge, he was just facing H for reasons I can't remember. |
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Feb 28, 2018 12:33:56 GMT -5
The Rumble winner defending the shot is really dumb. Why would anyone risk injury going potentially an hour in a grueling match only to defend the title shot at one of the guys who wasn't good enough on that night to win it? They should probably find Shinsuke something to do at Fastlane, but why portray him as the dumbest man on the planet by putting his golden ticket at stake? Yes but what if John Cena makes a gesture that implies that Shinsuke is a chicken?  |
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Feb 28, 2018 12:40:55 GMT -5
Did Triple H challenge for the shot? I thought it was just a match to blow off their feud and since Hunter won the match and didn't challenge, I think that is all it was unless some shenanigans happened afterwards. On the idea in general, I understand the need for it because it feels like the challenger is stuck in a weird limbo for a while nowadays and giving them anything to do that isn't involved with the title tends to feel meaningless. I have always enjoyed the G1 Climax winner defending their title but that also happens because someone beat them in the tournament and they want to avenge that whereas that doesn't exist in the Rumble. They either do need to make this something expected of the Rumble winner (because putting it up yourself can be silly) or just make more interesting stories for them in the month between the Rumble and Mania build. Hunter didn't challenge. He wanted to face Austin because Austin cost him against Kurt at Rumble IIRC. Owen challenged in 1996 because he took out Shawn at the end of 1995. I think Shawn made the Vince/Austin match at St. Valentines Day Massacre after Vince cheated to win the Rumble. Big Show challenged because of the controversial ending to the Rumble match. Kurt didn't challenge, he was just facing H for reasons I can't remember. No, Kurt did challenge and won at No Way Out with Steph as the ref, but there was another match the next night on Raw that HHH won to get back the title shot. Last time someone challenged for the rumble shot was CM Punk challenging Cena for it and Punk lost in a good match. |
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Post by sunnytaker on Feb 28, 2018 12:45:31 GMT -5
don't worry that's plan Q on cena's "paths to get to wrestlemania because i'm john cena and don't have one yet oh woe is me!" he'll then wander into NXT looking for a match at Mania... Regal will then try to explain to him that they have their own show that weekend and won't be at Mania... this concept will confuse and irritate Cena lol I thought of that too. then he'll turn up on the mixed match challenge after that with nikki. |
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Post by Lt. Palumbo on Feb 28, 2018 12:48:32 GMT -5
I hope so. This is one of those things I wish they would move away from. Agreed. It usually feels like one of two things: 1) Filler for the Rumble winner until they get to mania 2) They wanted to give a guy the prestige of the Rumble win but not the Wrestlemania spot so he'll lose it before then. |
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