Daniel Bryan medically cleared to return to in-ring action

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Mar 20, 2018 18:31:41 GMT -5 Gus Richlen: Ruffian said:

Mar 20, 2018 15:33:49 GMT -5 @jdogindy said:

Gus Richlen: Ruffian is busy destroying everything he sees considering how much he HATES Daniel Bryan.

I'm no fan of his, sure, but most everyone here loves him so I can't complain too much.

Sorry about the choice of words.

But if it means the forum is back to being positive, that's a plus for all.

[King Devitt and the Woke Mob]

Mar 20, 2018 18:52:17 GMT -5 freeze Austin said:

Obviously as a huge Bryan fan I'm thrilled. But given my cynical nature, I'm skeptical about what really went on here.

It just seems strange that they were so adamant about him never wrestling again and basically held him up as this shining example of what a great job they were doing re:wrestler safety. It's also notable that they refused to clear him at a time when fans wanted him pushed to the moon, but WWE stubbornly wanted to go in another direction to the point that it became a detriment to their product.

Suddenly he's now cleared after fan support for him has understandably cooled off a bit and just months before it was a virtual lock that he was going to bolt for the independent scene once his contract came up?

I'm just curious about what exactly changed in regards to his brain health over the last 6 months that caused them to change their minds. He's been getting cleared by every doctor he went to except for the WWE doctor for over a year now. Is their word and medical opinion suddenly good enough for Dr. Maroon?

Sorry, I just don't buy it. I might be way off here, but my gut instinct tells me that WWE was worried he would help ROH or NJPW gain a stronger foothold in the American TV market and they didn't want to risk that and also the possibility of other guys bolting and joining him to create some legit mainstream competition.

Regardless, I hope the guy took them to the cleaners in contract re-negotiations and was able to get at least a million dollar downside guarantee per year, one world title reign per year even if there's no heat to it (I'm convinced all WWE top guys have this clause in their contracts), a nice cut of his merch sales, and a stupid eco friendly tour bus that runs on wheatgrass.

I agree 100%, something seems fishy on WWE's side of things.

If I were Bryan, I'd still refuse to wrestle, sit out my contract and go to New Japan.
Prove Vince wrong that it's him that's in fact over, not the word "Yes".

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His promo on SmackDown was pretty magical. Some real emotion there and the crowd went insane. In particular I really loved the WrestleMania and, "Thank you Brie!" chants.

[abjordans]

Mar 20, 2018 19:21:57 GMT -5 King Devitt and the Woke Mob said:

Mar 20, 2018 18:52:17 GMT -5 freeze Austin said:

Obviously as a huge Bryan fan I'm thrilled. But given my cynical nature, I'm skeptical about what really went on here.

It just seems strange that they were so adamant about him never wrestling again and basically held him up as this shining example of what a great job they were doing re:wrestler safety. It's also notable that they refused to clear him at a time when fans wanted him pushed to the moon, but WWE stubbornly wanted to go in another direction to the point that it became a detriment to their product.

Suddenly he's now cleared after fan support for him has understandably cooled off a bit and just months before it was a virtual lock that he was going to bolt for the independent scene once his contract came up?

I'm just curious about what exactly changed in regards to his brain health over the last 6 months that caused them to change their minds. He's been getting cleared by every doctor he went to except for the WWE doctor for over a year now. Is their word and medical opinion suddenly good enough for Dr. Maroon?

Sorry, I just don't buy it. I might be way off here, but my gut instinct tells me that WWE was worried he would help ROH or NJPW gain a stronger foothold in the American TV market and they didn't want to risk that and also the possibility of other guys bolting and joining him to create some legit mainstream competition.

Regardless, I hope the guy took them to the cleaners in contract re-negotiations and was able to get at least a million dollar downside guarantee per year, one world title reign per year even if there's no heat to it (I'm convinced all WWE top guys have this clause in their contracts), a nice cut of his merch sales, and a stupid eco friendly tour bus that runs on wheatgrass.

I agree 100%, something seems fishy on WWE's side of things.

If I were Bryan, I'd still refuse to wrestle, sit out my contract and go to New Japan.
Prove Vince wrong that it's him that's in fact over, not the word "Yes".

Are you two watching Smackdown? Fan support has not cooled one bit.

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Mar 20, 2018 19:21:57 GMT -5 King Devitt and the Woke Mob said:

Mar 20, 2018 18:52:17 GMT -5 freeze Austin said:

Obviously as a huge Bryan fan I'm thrilled. But given my cynical nature, I'm skeptical about what really went on here.

It just seems strange that they were so adamant about him never wrestling again and basically held him up as this shining example of what a great job they were doing re:wrestler safety. It's also notable that they refused to clear him at a time when fans wanted him pushed to the moon, but WWE stubbornly wanted to go in another direction to the point that it became a detriment to their product.

Suddenly he's now cleared after fan support for him has understandably cooled off a bit and just months before it was a virtual lock that he was going to bolt for the independent scene once his contract came up?

I'm just curious about what exactly changed in regards to his brain health over the last 6 months that caused them to change their minds. He's been getting cleared by every doctor he went to except for the WWE doctor for over a year now. Is their word and medical opinion suddenly good enough for Dr. Maroon?

Sorry, I just don't buy it. I might be way off here, but my gut instinct tells me that WWE was worried he would help ROH or NJPW gain a stronger foothold in the American TV market and they didn't want to risk that and also the possibility of other guys bolting and joining him to create some legit mainstream competition.

Regardless, I hope the guy took them to the cleaners in contract re-negotiations and was able to get at least a million dollar downside guarantee per year, one world title reign per year even if there's no heat to it (I'm convinced all WWE top guys have this clause in their contracts), a nice cut of his merch sales, and a stupid eco friendly tour bus that runs on wheatgrass.

I agree 100%, something seems fishy on WWE's side of things.

If I were Bryan, I'd still refuse to wrestle, sit out my contract and go to New Japan.
Prove Vince wrong that it's him that's in fact over, not the word "Yes".

and a red viewmaster with grass growing slides since you know...no TV

[The Rick Jericho]

I want this man to have a limited offense:

Yes Kicks
Running Knee
Small Package
Yes Lock
Sharpshooter
Crossface
Superkick
Clothesline
Liontamer

[1 Free Moon-Down with Burger]

Mar 20, 2018 19:21:57 GMT -5 King Devitt and the Woke Mob said:

Mar 20, 2018 18:52:17 GMT -5 freeze Austin said:

Obviously as a huge Bryan fan I'm thrilled. But given my cynical nature, I'm skeptical about what really went on here.

It just seems strange that they were so adamant about him never wrestling again and basically held him up as this shining example of what a great job they were doing re:wrestler safety. It's also notable that they refused to clear him at a time when fans wanted him pushed to the moon, but WWE stubbornly wanted to go in another direction to the point that it became a detriment to their product.

Suddenly he's now cleared after fan support for him has understandably cooled off a bit and just months before it was a virtual lock that he was going to bolt for the independent scene once his contract came up?

I'm just curious about what exactly changed in regards to his brain health over the last 6 months that caused them to change their minds. He's been getting cleared by every doctor he went to except for the WWE doctor for over a year now. Is their word and medical opinion suddenly good enough for Dr. Maroon?

Sorry, I just don't buy it. I might be way off here, but my gut instinct tells me that WWE was worried he would help ROH or NJPW gain a stronger foothold in the American TV market and they didn't want to risk that and also the possibility of other guys bolting and joining him to create some legit mainstream competition.

Regardless, I hope the guy took them to the cleaners in contract re-negotiations and was able to get at least a million dollar downside guarantee per year, one world title reign per year even if there's no heat to it (I'm convinced all WWE top guys have this clause in their contracts), a nice cut of his merch sales, and a stupid eco friendly tour bus that runs on wheatgrass.

I agree 100%, something seems fishy on WWE's side of things.

If I were Bryan, I'd still refuse to wrestle, sit out my contract and go to New Japan.
Prove Vince wrong that it's him that's in fact over, not the word "Yes".

When did Vince ever say that?

[MAD TITAN]

Honestly what Bryan said about the WWE and their doctors thinking about the person and not the performer put things in a different light for me.

Might've been the best explanation for them being cautious with him and having him retire.

[GuyOfOwnage]

Mar 20, 2018 20:06:01 GMT -5 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger said:

Mar 20, 2018 19:21:57 GMT -5 King Devitt and the Woke Mob said:

I agree 100%, something seems fishy on WWE's side of things.

If I were Bryan, I'd still refuse to wrestle, sit out my contract and go to New Japan.
Prove Vince wrong that it's him that's in fact over, not the word "Yes".

When did Vince ever say that?

He didn't outright say it, but they frequently tried to get the chant itself over with the absence of Bryan, and it tanked.

[1 Free Moon-Down with Burger]

Mar 20, 2018 20:44:18 GMT -5 GuyOfOwnage said:

Mar 20, 2018 20:06:01 GMT -5 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger said:

When did Vince ever say that?

He didn't outright say it, but they frequently tried to get the chant itself over with the absence of Bryan, and it tanked.

Well. I mean. People chant yes all the time regardless of if Bryan's in the segment anyway.

I just wonder why people think Vince specifically hates Bryan and wanted to steal his catchphrase. From all the stories during his build, Vince absolutely loved the guy from the Hell No team onward.

[Corre.222]

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

He looked good, but I didn't think they'd go full balls to the wall bumping the literal day they cleared him, that shocks me.

Also please dude work on this dropkicks, nearly cartwheel landing on your head every time isn't comforting

[J. Hova]

So after watching SD for the first time in months, I am now convinced, dude has been cleared for months. I just can't see them going full steam the day he gets cleared unless they've had him cleared since the holidays and have just been waiting for the right time and have him working out backstage and whatnot. And props to them if that is the case and they kept it under wraps for that long.

[Tiger Millionaire]

I don't think people realize how much bigger WWE is than NJPW, and if given the choice, most would go with WWE. Not everybody, but I would still say most.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Mar 20, 2018 21:08:59 GMT -5 J. Hova said:

So after watching SD for the first time in months, I am now convinced, dude has been cleared for months. I just can't see them going full steam the day he gets cleared unless they've had him cleared since the holidays and have just been waiting for the right time and have him working out backstage and whatnot. And props to them if that is the case and they kept it under wraps for that long.

He's been getting back into ring shape for months apparently 

[kingoftheindies]

Mar 20, 2018 21:09:57 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

I don't think people realize how much bigger WWE is than NJPW, and if given the choice, most would go with WWE. Not everybody, but I would still say most.

Yes and no. I think proving you can make it in WWE is something everybody wants but being in Japan/Indies/Freelancer for some people is better for their sanity.

[Tiger Millionaire]

Mar 20, 2018 21:11:53 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

Mar 20, 2018 21:09:57 GMT -5 Tiger Millionaire said:

I don't think people realize how much bigger WWE is than NJPW, and if given the choice, most would go with WWE. Not everybody, but I would still say most.

Yes and no. I think proving you can make it in WWE is something everybody wants but being in Japan/Indies/Freelancer for some people is better for their sanity.

The WWE has a relationship with his wife, I'm sure pays him very well, gives him more exposure then anywhere else, and allows him to stay in the states. If he can wrestle, and it's not like WWE has a lack of quality opponents for him to face; I don't see the allure of NJPW; as opposed to someone like Cody Rhodes, a guy who couldn't get above the lower-midcard; or even a Kenny Omega, who doesn't know what his ceiling would be with the company.

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After tonight... I'm still wishing he wouldn't be in action.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for Bryan, but I just freaked out at every bump he took during that beating, and no amount of clearance will change that outlook.

Call me selfish, but I had hoped that itch would have been gone by now.

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And I got a question...who are Bryan's boys?

By that I mean the guys he really hangout with. I know Cody and Ryback were given they were roading together but who else does he really hangout with? I don't mean guys that are like "he's a great wrestler and I wanna wrestle him because he's great" but his real people.

[thecrusherwi]

Mar 20, 2018 21:20:59 GMT -5 @jdogindy said:

After tonight... I'm still wishing he wouldn't be in action.

I have nothing but the utmost respect for Bryan, but I just freaked out at every bump he took during that beating, and no amount of clearance will change that outlook.

Call me selfish, but I had hoped that itch would have been gone by now.

If he really went through the due diligence that he described, than he has no greatly elevated risk over anyone else. Wrestling in of itself is an inherently reckless and dangerous activity. As are most sports. But these athletes live for it. If he's ok with it and his wife is ok with it, I'm ok with it. You only life once. Why not do what you love?