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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 14:03:59 GMT -5
Great words from Cena. I also found it interesting how he pointed out that Bryan's "one of the healthiest people in the WWE."
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Mar 21, 2018 14:20:56 GMT -5
Man it felt so great seeing a true babyface and a true mega popular guy doing something where the whole crowd is popping for. I had forgotten what it felt like. Shades of 1997/98 Stone Cold. I cannot believe Vince would watch that and not think "this is what wrestling should be like". I really wonder where this ‘Vince hates Daniel Bryan’ is coming from. Vince booked him as the centerpiece of the top show for an entire year and then some. If you really believe the ending to the "Daniel Bryan is a B+ player" was meant to be anything other than "We're right, he is, I hope you enjoyed his blip, he's a Wyatt now", more power to you. The fans forced them to go in a direction they never wanted to. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Mar 21, 2018 14:23:30 GMT -5
I really wonder where this ‘Vince hates Daniel Bryan’ is coming from. Vince booked him as the centerpiece of the top show for an entire year and then some. If you really believe the ending to the "Daniel Bryan is a B+ player" was meant to be anything other than "We're right, he is, I hope you enjoyed his blip, he's a Wyatt now", more power to you. The fans forced them to go in a direction they never wanted to. The rest is very much up for debate, but Bryan was never going to be a Wyatt beyond that feud. It can be argued the ending was sped up, but there's no way he was sticking with the group |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 21, 2018 14:25:51 GMT -5
If you really believe the ending to the "Daniel Bryan is a B+ player" was meant to be anything other than "We're right, he is, I hope you enjoyed his blip, he's a Wyatt now", more power to you. The fans forced them to go in a direction they never wanted to. The rest is very much up for debate, but Bryan was never going to be a Wyatt beyond that feud. It can be argued the ending was sped up, but there's no way he was sticking with the group Yeah, at worst, that thing was going to end at WrestleMania. |
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Post by benstudd on Mar 21, 2018 15:06:06 GMT -5
I really wonder where this ‘Vince hates Daniel Bryan’ is coming from. Vince booked him as the centerpiece of the top show for an entire year and then some. An entire year and then some? Assuming you are refering to 2013 and 2014, before John Cena in storyline literally picked him as his opponent out of the entire roster, he was in the midcard and returned there in the fall when it was time for Cena - Orton part 29841345454. He spent a large chunk of time feuding with The Wyatt Family before then. Bryan was important sure, but he wasn't the centerpiece, not with Batista, Cena, Orton and Triple H being arguably a bigger focus. Thank you. When Bryan won the belt Mania, the fans had to force his hand cause his pick was Orton vs Batista. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 21, 2018 15:20:10 GMT -5
An entire year and then some? Assuming you are refering to 2013 and 2014, before John Cena in storyline literally picked him as his opponent out of the entire roster, he was in the midcard and returned there in the fall when it was time for Cena - Orton part 29841345454. He spent a large chunk of time feuding with The Wyatt Family before then. Bryan was important sure, but he wasn't the centerpiece, not with Batista, Cena, Orton and Triple H being arguably a bigger focus. Thank you. When Bryan won the belt Mania, the fans had to force his hand cause his pick was Orton vs Batista. Like, that period was a surreal time as a viewer because it felt like they were trying to come up with a compromise with the crowd to not boo Orton/Batista. They went with Wyatt/Bryan, didn't work. They then went with HHH/Bryan which at least had a build and they thought it might have at least turned the tide a bit. It only worked to the fact they still cheered but not as loudly. The week when they added the "Winner gets into the title match" stip felt like it was the company giving into the fan's demands and it was getting tighter and tighter before they did it. Maybe it was planned to be that specific time but you could tell watching it, it was a real push and pull and in a way, it made for really compelling TV. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2018 15:23:28 GMT -5
Thank you. When Bryan won the belt Mania, the fans had to force his hand cause his pick was Orton vs Batista. Like, that period was a surreal time as a viewer because it felt like they were trying to come up with a compromise with the crowd to not boo Orton/Batista. They went with Wyatt/Bryan, didn't work. They then went with HHH/Bryan which at least had a build and they thought it might have at least turned the tide a bit. It only worked to the fact they still cheered but not as loudly. The week when they added the "Winner gets into the title match" stip felt like it was the company giving into the fan's demands and it was getting tighter and tighter before they did it. Maybe it was planned to be that specific time but you could tell watching it, it was a real push and pull and in a way, it made for really compelling TV. Don't forget that weird period when for about two weeks they had Orton start acting like a face and doing shooty promos on Batista. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 21, 2018 15:27:09 GMT -5
Like, that period was a surreal time as a viewer because it felt like they were trying to come up with a compromise with the crowd to not boo Orton/Batista. They went with Wyatt/Bryan, didn't work. They then went with HHH/Bryan which at least had a build and they thought it might have at least turned the tide a bit. It only worked to the fact they still cheered but not as loudly. The week when they added the "Winner gets into the title match" stip felt like it was the company giving into the fan's demands and it was getting tighter and tighter before they did it. Maybe it was planned to be that specific time but you could tell watching it, it was a real push and pull and in a way, it made for really compelling TV. Don't forget that weird period when for about two weeks they had Orton start acting like a face and doing shooty promos on Batista. Oh yeah, they had a good few in-ring promos where they tried everything to get someone cheered over the other. Especially when HHH was there, pre stip, basically being Evolution moderator. It was weird. |
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Post by Nosnorb on Mar 21, 2018 15:27:28 GMT -5
And rumour had it, before a certain dude from Chicago decided he had enough, the plan was for Bryan to face down Sheamus at Mania. With Sheamus likely to retire soon, looks like those two will never wrestle each other again.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 21, 2018 15:30:49 GMT -5
And rumour had it, before a certain dude from Chicago decided he had enough, the plan was for Bryan to face down Sheamus at Mania. With Sheamus likely to retire soon, looks like those two will never wrestle each other again. Yeah, that as well since the rumour was Punk/HHH for the longest time just to give Punk something to do for the show. I'd like to somehow see what a world where Punk stayed ended up being and even if Bryan's passionate fanbase would have gotten him in a spot the fans would have been happy with. |
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Post by hashtagdaley/JudasDay on Mar 21, 2018 15:45:10 GMT -5
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Mar 21, 2018 17:38:52 GMT -5
I personally don't think that, he will probably be fine but 1) given his desperation to work throughout this don't necessarily trust his telling 2) think when you have a family you put them first and the fact he had seizures before should mean he takes himself away from in ring competition for the benefit of his family. Throughout this he's conducted himself like a spoiled kid to my mind. I will add though that this is a personal thing, and it'd great seeing so many happy and excited for something in wwe. I felt good for Mania anyway so more people with enthusiasm is a big upside. That's an absolutely fair and reasonable opinon to hold, I'm more referring to some people (not necessarily here) who act like if he takes a single bump he'll end up in a coma and die, and look for any reason to ignore what these latest set of doctors, and many others, are/have been saying in favour of Maroon. For example, THIS is a 100% valid concern and totally the sort of worry I understand: My only concern is what happens when he gets his next concussion. With wrestling, it's more of a "when" thing than "if". Don't get me wrong, I'm not in the "Another blow to the head will render him braindead" camp. I just wonder if PCS symptoms would return. I know concussions are very, very tricky, and there really is no answer for my question. But then you get stuff like this: So much quotable material here if the sceptics turn out to be right. Which almost sounds as though people'd rather he be miserable and one step from the grave, or get injured in his return, in order to be proved right, than admit he might actually be healthy now. If people are wrong and he's healthy, that's a good thing. If people are wrong and he gets hurt, okay people were wrong but how is that 'quotable'? That's not a "win" for anybody. That's a sad f***ing situation and one everyone should hope doesn't happen, and frankly one that people should have faith in the medical experts on over their own armchair opinions. I want Bryan to be happy and healthy. If he's healthy enough to wrestle, then great, and he's happy wrestling, so double great. The fact that I as a fan also want him to come back doesn't mean the first part isn't true or is somehow compromised, it just means I need to be aware of my own feelings as a fan when considering the matter- which I am. I just spent several days at my mother's deathbed, the last thing I want is for Bryan or anyone to be hurt. If that came through in my post I'm sorry. |
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Mar 21, 2018 17:53:53 GMT -5
On a sidenote, WWE.com went to the trouble of moving Owens and Zayn's profiles to the alumni section. I love that they got through that fine detail every time this happens. And Owens has actually changed his Twitter stuff back to his real name, as well. I guess Zayn just disappears into the ether in silence, while in an unrelated story, El Generico finally resurfaces and puts to bed all those death rumours. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Mar 21, 2018 18:13:28 GMT -5
On a sidenote, WWE.com went to the trouble of moving Owens and Zayn's profiles to the alumni section. I love that they got through that fine detail every time this happens. And Owens has actually changed his Twitter stuff back to his real name, as well. I guess Zayn just disappears into the ether in silence, while in an unrelated story, El Generico finally resurfaces and puts to bed all those death rumours. I mean, if it wasn’t a giant coincidence and had nothing to do with one another, that would be a really nice use of keeping in the storyline and I’d give them major props for going with it. Metaphorically obviously because everyone knows El Generico and Sami Zayn look nothing alike. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 21, 2018 18:44:12 GMT -5
And Owens has actually changed his Twitter stuff back to his real name, as well. I guess Zayn just disappears into the ether in silence, while in an unrelated story, El Generico finally resurfaces and puts to bed all those death rumours. I mean, if it wasn’t a giant coincidence and had nothing to do with one another, that would be a really nice use of keeping in the storyline and I’d give them major props for going with it. Metaphorically obviously because everyone knows El Generico and Sami Zayn look nothing alike. It's still quite a bit of a sacrifice, because Steen's account lost the verified checkmark when he changed the handle, and I hope he has control of the account currently holding @ FightOwensFight when it's time to change back. |
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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 21, 2018 19:49:23 GMT -5
I mean, if it wasn’t a giant coincidence and had nothing to do with one another, that would be a really nice use of keeping in the storyline and I’d give them major props for going with it. Metaphorically obviously because everyone knows El Generico and Sami Zayn look nothing alike. It's still quite a bit of a sacrifice, because Steen's account lost the verified checkmark when he changed the handle, and I hope he has control of the account currently holding @ FightOwensFight when it's time to change back. To be fair, he doesn't seem like the type of dude to care about a checkmark or not. Dixie Carter could learn a thing. |
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Mar 21, 2018 22:15:05 GMT -5
On a sidenote, WWE.com went to the trouble of moving Owens and Zayn's profiles to the alumni section. I love that they got through that fine detail every time this happens. And Owens has actually changed his Twitter stuff back to his real name, as well. I guess Zayn just disappears into the ether in silence, while in an unrelated story, El Generico finally resurfaces and puts to bed all those death rumours. Sami finally speaks. |
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Post by Squirrel Master on Mar 22, 2018 0:04:56 GMT -5
Poo poo, Its all hearsay until DB points at the Wrestlemania sign.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Mar 22, 2018 1:41:57 GMT -5
That's an absolutely fair and reasonable opinon to hold, I'm more referring to some people (not necessarily here) who act like if he takes a single bump he'll end up in a coma and die, and look for any reason to ignore what these latest set of doctors, and many others, are/have been saying in favour of Maroon. For example, THIS is a 100% valid concern and totally the sort of worry I understand: But then you get stuff like this: Which almost sounds as though people'd rather he be miserable and one step from the grave, or get injured in his return, in order to be proved right, than admit he might actually be healthy now. If people are wrong and he's healthy, that's a good thing. If people are wrong and he gets hurt, okay people were wrong but how is that 'quotable'? That's not a "win" for anybody. That's a sad f***ing situation and one everyone should hope doesn't happen, and frankly one that people should have faith in the medical experts on over their own armchair opinions. I want Bryan to be happy and healthy. If he's healthy enough to wrestle, then great, and he's happy wrestling, so double great. The fact that I as a fan also want him to come back doesn't mean the first part isn't true or is somehow compromised, it just means I need to be aware of my own feelings as a fan when considering the matter- which I am. I just spent several days at my mother's deathbed, the last thing I want is for Bryan or anyone to be hurt. If that came through in my post I'm sorry. Oh jesus, I'm very sorry for your loss. Completely puts that post in a different context don't worry about it, I'm sorry if I upset you. |
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Mar 22, 2018 2:04:47 GMT -5
I just spent several days at my mother's deathbed, the last thing I want is for Bryan or anyone to be hurt. If that came through in my post I'm sorry. Oh jesus, I'm very sorry for your loss. Completely puts that post in a different context don't worry about it, I'm sorry if I upset you. Don't worry, you didn't upset me, think no more of it, I truly appreiate the condolenses. |
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