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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 13, 2020 0:24:17 GMT -5
My Zack Snyder prediction? I reckon he'll get maybe one (two if I'm generous) more high profile studio movie(s) (but Warners will never hire him again) each with increasingly diminished box office returns until he's directing a flag ship movie for a new studio financed by a Chinese/Indian/Middle Eastern conglomerate that also tanks sinking their upcoming slate of middling PG-13 horror movies, Romcoms & Fast & Furious wannabe action flicks He's already kinda burning bridges with Netflix. Army of the Dead wrapped filming last October And was originally scheduled to release this month, but since last November his sole focus has been on Justice League and Army of the Dead is effectively on hold. The Fountainhead, while still technically In development, has been passed on by several studios and even Snyder admits it probably won't happen. That leaves The Last Photograph, a movie about "two men undertaking a deadly journey into the rugged wilderness South America", which was announced in 2017 and has languished in development hell ever since. Snyder better hope that the Snyder Cut is immensely successful and impresses the f*** out of the new management over at Warner Bros., otherwise I think he's not even gonna that one high profile movie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2020 0:27:47 GMT -5
I think Snyder's career is pretty effectively over. I can't see a studio trusting him in a major capacity again after driving the DCEU into the ground when it should've been a surefire massive success, and he's by all signs a total pain in the ass to work with.
I'm sure he'll still find some low budget work here and there but I think his days of putting out major blockbusters are behind him.
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Post by Glitch on Aug 13, 2020 0:53:26 GMT -5
Zack, buddy, just give it up and go to Todd McFarlane and say you want to make a Spawn movie. That's obviously what you're gunning for. I've got a feeling Todd would tell him to f*** off to be honest Yeah. As much as Todd is a mark for himself, he doesn't have that massive "it's too deep for you, bro" attitude.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2020 21:01:02 GMT -5
Snyder is going to be f***ed as a big time studio producer
Way too much of a pain to work with and as seen if he doesn't get his way he will moan about it and he somehow built up a legion that will defend everything he does
He'll still makes bones in some low budget "my artistic value" films. Sign up Fisher and portray it as big time
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 13, 2020 21:33:57 GMT -5
I think Snyder's career is pretty effectively over. I can't see a studio trusting him in a major capacity again after driving the DCEU into the ground when it should've been a surefire massive success, and he's by all signs a total pain in the ass to work with. I'm sure he'll still find some low budget work here and there but I think his days of putting out major blockbusters are behind him. Him not having an movie that didn't at least meet box office expectations since 300 is the biggest mark against him. - Watchmen ($185 million on a $130 million budget, lost about $80 million) - Legends of the Guardians ($140 million on an $85 million budget, lost about $10 million) - Sucker Punch ($90 million on an $82 million budget, lost about $60 million) - Man of Steel ($668 million on a $250 million budget, WB had expectations of $1.5 billion, which was admittedly unrealistic) - Batman v Superman ($873 million on a $250 million budget, WB expected at least $1.5 billion) Even leaving out Justice League on a technicality, he's hardly covered himself in glory.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2020 21:47:06 GMT -5
I think Snyder's career is pretty effectively over. I can't see a studio trusting him in a major capacity again after driving the DCEU into the ground when it should've been a surefire massive success, and he's by all signs a total pain in the ass to work with. I'm sure he'll still find some low budget work here and there but I think his days of putting out major blockbusters are behind him. Him not having an movie that didn't at least meet box office expectations since 300 is the biggest mark against him. - Watchmen ($185 million on a $130 million budget, lost about $80 million) - Legends of the Guardians ($140 million on an $85 million budget, lost about $10 million) - Sucker Punch ($90 million on an $82 million budget, lost about $60 million) - Man of Steel ($668 million on a $250 million budget, WB had expectations of $1.5 billion, which was admittedly unrealistic) - Batman v Superman ($873 million on a $250 million budget, WB expected at least $1.5 billion) Even leaving out Justice League on a technicality, he's hardly covered himself in glory. Yea MoS is basically his selling point but even then that's breaking even and while WB was crazy for $1.5 bill, $1 billion is not that farfetched
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Post by chrom on Aug 13, 2020 21:59:10 GMT -5
I think Snyder's career is pretty effectively over. I can't see a studio trusting him in a major capacity again after driving the DCEU into the ground when it should've been a surefire massive success, and he's by all signs a total pain in the ass to work with. I'm sure he'll still find some low budget work here and there but I think his days of putting out major blockbusters are behind him. Him not having an movie that didn't at least meet box office expectations since 300 is the biggest mark against him. - Watchmen ($185 million on a $130 million budget, lost about $80 million) - Legends of the Guardians ($140 million on an $85 million budget, lost about $10 million) - Sucker Punch ($90 million on an $82 million budget, lost about $60 million) - Man of Steel ($668 million on a $250 million budget, WB had expectations of $1.5 billion, which was admittedly unrealistic) - Batman v Superman ($873 million on a $250 million budget, WB expected at least $1.5 billion) Even leaving out Justice League on a technicality, he's hardly covered himself in glory. And on the two DC Films they spent almost the entire what they spent on the budget to shill and advertise it.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 13, 2020 22:07:10 GMT -5
And on the two DC Films they spent almost the entire what they spent on the budget to shill and advertise it. Man of Steel at least had the benefit of an insane amount of product placement offsetting the production budget. Of the $250 million spent making it, $160 million of that was recouped through product placement. BVS didn't have that same benefit, hence its meagre profits.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2020 22:07:44 GMT -5
Him not having an movie that didn't at least meet box office expectations since 300 is the biggest mark against him. - Watchmen ($185 million on a $130 million budget, lost about $80 million) - Legends of the Guardians ($140 million on an $85 million budget, lost about $10 million) - Sucker Punch ($90 million on an $82 million budget, lost about $60 million) - Man of Steel ($668 million on a $250 million budget, WB had expectations of $1.5 billion, which was admittedly unrealistic) - Batman v Superman ($873 million on a $250 million budget, WB expected at least $1.5 billion) Even leaving out Justice League on a technicality, he's hardly covered himself in glory. And on the two DC Films they spent almost the entire what they spent on the budget to shill and advertise it. Thinking they was going to be on Avengers time without putting in the work and effort
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 13, 2020 22:25:15 GMT -5
Thinking they was going to be on Avengers time without putting in the work and effort Easy to forget that Marvel's Phase One was a series of modest hits before Avengers went over the top. Only the two Iron Man movies made more than $500 million. Sure, DC had the benefit of arguably the two most popular comic book characters in history to build their cinematic universe around, but you still need to put the legwork in. Turning one into an at-times unlikeable jerk and the other into a mass murdering psychopath and alienating huge sections of your core audience isn't gonna help things along either, of course.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2020 22:34:49 GMT -5
Thinking they was going to be on Avengers time without putting in the work and effort Easy to forget that Marvel's Phase One was a series of modest hits before Avengers went over the top. Only the two Iron Man movies made more than $500 million. Sure, DC had the benefit of arguably the two most popular comic book characters in history to build their cinematic universe around, but you still need to put the legwork in. Turning one into an at-times unlikeable jerk and the other into a mass murdering psychopath and alienating huge sections of your core audience isn't gonna help things along either, of course. It should been steady and slow There was nothing with doing a Batman movie, two superman movies, Aquaman, Shazam, Wonder Woman etc before you got to Justice League Then off Justice League you could set up Flash, Black Adam, Cyborg etc along with sequels to the first films. That's not even adding characters like Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, Martian Manhunter. Still is mindblowing that they can f*** up all this history while Marvel got GOTG over and is about to put Shang Chi on the big screen
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 13, 2020 22:43:16 GMT -5
Still is mindblowing that they can f*** up all this history while Marvel got GOTG over and is about to put Shang Chi on the big screen f***ing Ant-Man and the Wasp took about the same as Man of Steel for crying out loud!
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Post by DSR on Aug 13, 2020 22:49:38 GMT -5
Thinking they was going to be on Avengers time without putting in the work and effort Easy to forget that Marvel's Phase One was a series of modest hits before Avengers went over the top. Only the two Iron Man movies made more than $500 million. Sure, DC had the benefit of arguably the two most popular comic book characters in history to build their cinematic universe around, but you still need to put the legwork in. Turning one into an at-times unlikeable jerk and the other into a mass murdering psychopath and alienating huge sections of your core audience isn't gonna help things along either, of course. Something something stop living in a fantasy land and lose your virginity to my movie, bro!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 13, 2020 23:05:38 GMT -5
Still is mindblowing that they can f*** up all this history while Marvel got GOTG over and is about to put Shang Chi on the big screen f***ing Ant-Man and the Wasp took about the same as Man of Steel for crying out loud! And that movie came out in basically a dead spot right after Infinity War and how that movie ended on a downer and before Captain Marvel and Endgame If that don't tell you the staying power, nothing will
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Aug 13, 2020 23:32:26 GMT -5
Still is mindblowing that they can f*** up all this history while Marvel got GOTG over and is about to put Shang Chi on the big screen f***ing Ant-Man and the Wasp took about the same as Man of Steel for crying out loud! Deadpool brought in more than BvS, didn't it?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Aug 14, 2020 0:06:45 GMT -5
f***ing Ant-Man and the Wasp took about the same as Man of Steel for crying out loud! Deadpool brought in more than BvS, didn't it? It made about $90 million less at the box office, but because it cost $275 million less to make and to market it was far more profitable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2020 0:29:14 GMT -5
Deadpool brought in more than BvS, didn't it? It made about $90 million less at the box office, but because it cost $275 million less to make and to market it was far more profitable. Additionally Deadpool wasn't released in China; if you remove BvS's Chinese gross, Deadpool made more.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Aug 14, 2020 0:30:15 GMT -5
Easy to forget that Marvel's Phase One was a series of modest hits before Avengers went over the top. Only the two Iron Man movies made more than $500 million. Sure, DC had the benefit of arguably the two most popular comic book characters in history to build their cinematic universe around, but you still need to put the legwork in. Turning one into an at-times unlikeable jerk and the other into a mass murdering psychopath and alienating huge sections of your core audience isn't gonna help things along either, of course. It should been steady and slow There was nothing with doing a Batman movie, two superman movies, Aquaman, Shazam, Wonder Woman etc before you got to Justice League Then off Justice League you could set up Flash, Black Adam, Cyborg etc along with sequels to the first films. That's not even adding characters like Green Lantern, Hawkgirl, Martian Manhunter. Still is mindblowing that they can f*** up all this history while Marvel got GOTG over and is about to put Shang Chi on the big screen You could probably get away with just introducing the trio in their own movies and in versions people want to see and the rest of the league you can introduce in JL and in their own stuff after... But again that requires you to actually set shit up... Batman V. Superman seems to have skipped at least 2 5 hour movies before starting.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Aug 14, 2020 6:46:10 GMT -5
I'll always say it: Batman AND Superman Dawn of Justice clears a billion easily.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 14, 2020 8:36:15 GMT -5
I'll always say it: Batman AND Superman Dawn of Justice clears a billion easily. Yeah, a live action Superman/Batman: Public Enemies clears a billion in no time. Just make it to where Superman and Batman put together the League while trying to clear their names. You make their big fight against an army of supervillains the final battle, and Wonder Woman jumps in to help Supes and Bats, giving us the Trinity.
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