Fauxnaki
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Post by Fauxnaki on Mar 6, 2019 7:53:19 GMT -5
It’s amazing what happens when one company has control over what is done with their IP and what happens when a company can go “I’m not sure about that” and have no real power to do much outside of that. I feel like SEGA say that just so they can look good and get their fanbase to buy the next mediocre sonic game, probably based on this movie. Let face it, SEGA themself done more damages to Sonic then this movie could possibly do. Also is it just me or do Sonic look like Woody Woodpecker from that bad live action CGI movie.  Woody looks infinitely better then sonic |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Mar 6, 2019 11:15:15 GMT -5
I wonder how much of the thought process behind the new Sonic is 'how can we make this not look 100% awful alongside actual actors?' As much as I like the traditional Sonic design, it'll start to look like noodly limbed garbage in a real world setting. They should have gone full on Roger Rabbit, rather than trying to do Rocket Raccoon, as instead they've gotten Howard the Duck.
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 6, 2019 11:52:55 GMT -5
One of the things that's tricky for the graphic designers of the Sonic film is that unlike Detective Pikachu, there's no real working example of the games of Sonic with realistic humans ever really being a home run in terms of visuals. Pokemon was designed from the ground up to have animal like monsters alongside humans, so translating that into live action isn't impossible, with even stuff like the Pokedex providing height and weight to work from.
Sonic's core characters always worked best alongside animal people, robots, or very caricatured appearances like Robotnik or Snively. 3D games especially struggled to make the visual dissonance between Sonic and realistic people work, with Unleashed only ever really succeeding because it went for exaggerated humans ala Professor Pickle. As much as Sega of Japan may have intended Sonic set on Earth, the dominant aesthetic in the franchise for a lot of people is animal mascot with a cartoonish looking Eggman.
Hence the whole idea of Sonic was interacting with live action actors was always going to be very difficult because unlike an adaptation such as TMNT, a lot of the design from the source material wasn't made (or even got popular) with the concept of animal people next to everyday humans in mind.
The image change for Sonic is attempt to mitigate this, but whatever success it gets comes at the cost of the uniqueness of his design, and the discordant visual issue between him and human characters is still present, even if not as strongly.
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Post by Malcolm on Mar 6, 2019 12:47:46 GMT -5
One of the things that's tricky for the graphic designers of the Sonic film is that unlike Detective Pikachu, there's no real working example of the games of Sonic with realistic humans ever really being a home run in terms of visuals. Pokemon was designed from the ground up to have animal like monsters alongside humans, so translating that into live action isn't impossible, with even stuff like the Pokedex providing height and weight to work from. Sonic's core characters always worked best alongside animal people, robots, or very caricatured appearances like Robotnik or Snively. 3D games especially struggled to make the visual dissonance between Sonic and realistic people work, with Unleashed only ever really succeeding because it went for exaggerated humans ala Professor Pickle. As much as Sega of Japan may have intended Sonic set on Earth, the dominant aesthetic in the franchise for a lot of people is animal mascot with a cartoonish looking Eggman. Hence the whole idea of Sonic was interacting with live action actors was always going to be very difficult because unlike an adaptation such as TMNT, a lot of the design from the source material wasn't made (or even got popular) with the concept of animal people next to everyday humans in mind. The image change for Sonic is attempt to mitigate this, but whatever success it gets comes at the cost of the uniqueness of his design, and the discordant visual issue between him and human characters is still present, even if not as strongly. I thought the anime-esque humans in the first Sonic Adventure game didn't clash too much, IMO. |
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 6, 2019 12:50:42 GMT -5
One of the things that's tricky for the graphic designers of the Sonic film is that unlike Detective Pikachu, there's no real working example of the games of Sonic with realistic humans ever really being a home run in terms of visuals. Pokemon was designed from the ground up to have animal like monsters alongside humans, so translating that into live action isn't impossible, with even stuff like the Pokedex providing height and weight to work from. Sonic's core characters always worked best alongside animal people, robots, or very caricatured appearances like Robotnik or Snively. 3D games especially struggled to make the visual dissonance between Sonic and realistic people work, with Unleashed only ever really succeeding because it went for exaggerated humans ala Professor Pickle. As much as Sega of Japan may have intended Sonic set on Earth, the dominant aesthetic in the franchise for a lot of people is animal mascot with a cartoonish looking Eggman. Hence the whole idea of Sonic was interacting with live action actors was always going to be very difficult because unlike an adaptation such as TMNT, a lot of the design from the source material wasn't made (or even got popular) with the concept of animal people next to everyday humans in mind. The image change for Sonic is attempt to mitigate this, but whatever success it gets comes at the cost of the uniqueness of his design, and the discordant visual issue between him and human characters is still present, even if not as strongly. I thought the anime-esque humans in the first Sonic Adventure game didn't clash too much, IMO. It also helped that the SA1 humans were fairly minimalistic and not interacted with outside text boxes in the hub world. |
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 6, 2019 13:37:53 GMT -5
 Looks like the quills will be flexible, blowing back when he runs. Kinda looks Naruto in this pose, but not too different from how he ran in X. |
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Post by The Ichi on Mar 6, 2019 15:58:05 GMT -5
He looks...out of shape for the amount of running he does.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Mar 6, 2019 16:10:42 GMT -5
He looks...out of shape for the amount of running he does. He's Modern La Parka. Super wide but he'll still kick your ass. And maybe dance while doing it. |
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Mar 6, 2019 17:21:30 GMT -5
I feel like SEGA say that just so they can look good and get their fanbase to buy the next mediocre sonic game, probably based on this movie. Let face it, SEGA themself done more damages to Sonic then this movie could possibly do. Also is it just me or do Sonic look like Woody Woodpecker from that bad live action CGI movie. Woody looks infinitely better then sonic Why thank you kind sir |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 6, 2019 17:33:55 GMT -5
He does really look like a college mascot. Not even saying that's bad, but if you told me he led the pep squad for West Central Idaho State or whatever I'd not question it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2019 3:39:37 GMT -5
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Post by dreidemy on Mar 13, 2019 8:01:30 GMT -5
Looks like the quills will be flexible, blowing back when he runs. Kinda looks Naruto in this pose, but not too different from how he ran in X. Nightmare fuel |
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Post by Welfare Willis on Mar 13, 2019 8:12:59 GMT -5
Wow, is Space Jam the only good live action/animation film? Actually that's not fair. Is Space Jam the only live action/animated film that doesn't make me want to split my wrists open and bleed? |
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Post by BorneAgain on Mar 13, 2019 8:16:53 GMT -5
Wow, is Space Jam the only good live action/animation film? Actually that's not fair. Is Space Jam the only live action/animated film that doesn't make me want to split my wrists open and bleed? Roger Rabbit still holds up, and stuff like Bedknobs and Broomsticks isn't awful. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 13, 2019 8:44:56 GMT -5
Wow, is Space Jam the only good live action/animation film? Actually that's not fair. Is Space Jam the only live action/animated film that doesn't make me want to split my wrists open and bleed? Roger Rabbit still holds up, and stuff like Bedknobs and Broomsticks isn't awful. Roger Rabbit more than holds up, IMHO. I'd probably put it in my top 10. |
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Post by Rumble McSkirmish on Mar 13, 2019 12:45:39 GMT -5
Roger Rabbit still holds up, and stuff like Bedknobs and Broomsticks isn't awful. Roger Rabbit more than holds up, IMHO. I'd probably put it in my top 10. That and the Paddington Bear films are pretty good for what they are as well. Hell the second one made Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima's personal top ten films of 2018 list. (Just let that sink in for a moment.) |
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 13, 2019 13:30:58 GMT -5
I mean... it doesn't sound horrible (flossing aside, f*** all the way off with that), and they're at least trying to give the rings a story purpose aside from "weird currency that also lets Super Sonic be a thing". Robotnik actually sounds pretty accurate for an evil scientist and I don't mind not referring to him as Eggman since, well, that isn't his name anyway. |
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Mar 13, 2019 13:41:10 GMT -5
I mean... it doesn't sound horrible (flossing aside, f*** all the way off with that), and they're at least trying to give the rings a story purpose aside from "weird currency that also lets Super Sonic be a thing". Robotnik actually sounds pretty accurate for an evil scientist and I don't mind not referring to him as Eggman since, well, that isn't his name anyway. There's worse plots out there if you must go with the idea of Sonic in the real world. |
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Post by Paul on Mar 13, 2019 18:11:52 GMT -5
Why not do an all-CGI movie set in Sonic's world? That's what I'd like to see.
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Post by Ganon83 on Mar 13, 2019 22:18:22 GMT -5
Why not do an all-CGI movie set in Sonic's world? That's what I'd like to see. It's not about what you want to see, it's about what suits in Hollywood think you want to see. |
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