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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 3, 2018 17:50:08 GMT -5
Cornette made his living getting his ass kicked by everybody including women, how is he a mark for himself? Well his middle name is Mark but that's it. He believes that he's the greatest mind that's ever lived and anyone who doesn't understand or agree with him is an idiot.
Sure, at one time he had a good mind but only one time. When he tried booking again he failed time and time as he was insisting on what worked in the era of the late 70s and early 80s would still work today. This is the guy who thought Michael Bennett, Mr. "I make Plain Rice look exciting" was World Champion Material
No. He admitted that he lost his ass on SMW and that the clone wars he booked in ROH sucked.
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Post by deezy on Aug 4, 2018 3:21:22 GMT -5
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 4, 2018 7:53:25 GMT -5
He finally left wrestling to become a paramedic, as he is trained to be one. But he would always use that to get what he wanted from ROH and TNA. But the real reason he's a piece of garbage is when he held up an indy promoter, threatening violence and didn't even work a match(this also included Kyle O'Reilly and a couple of other Richards flunkies). He also was pretty infamous for no showing events, including New Japan shows which got him kicked out of the organization. Around that time, quite a few stories emerged about him piece of garbage. You also have the infamous match him and Eddie had in an NXT tryout and supposedly Davey didn’t go home when they told him to. Keep in mind Regal is the one who put his rep on the line for that audition yeah I forgot about that one. William Regal has to be one of the best people to have in your corner when trying to get a deal with WWE and Davey just completely slapped him in the face. worse, he dragged Eddie down with him by association.
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Post by nickcave on Aug 4, 2018 13:25:15 GMT -5
There's a famous story someone told in a shoot (I can't remember who) about Ahmed Johnson trying to use his high position in the PWI 500 to leverage him getting pushed more.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 4, 2018 14:10:24 GMT -5
There's a famous story someone told in a shoot (I can't remember who) about Ahmed Johnson trying to use his high position in the PWI 500 to leverage him getting pushed more. I think it was former ecw owner Tod Gordon who told that story, he also said that Mr Hughes said that he couldn't put over Taz because he beat Lex Luger, Tod then reminded him that he didn't actually beat anyone in a fight because wrestling is fake.
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Post by Facetious on Aug 4, 2018 15:49:06 GMT -5
You also have the infamous match him and Eddie had in an NXT tryout and supposedly Davey didn’t go home when they told him to. Keep in mind Regal is the one who put his rep on the line for that audition yeah I forgot about that one. William Regal has to be one of the best people to have in your corner when trying to get a deal with WWE and Davey just completely slapped him in the face. worse, he dragged Eddie down with him by association. My memory is hazy, but wasn't he knocked stupid when he was dropped on his head?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 4, 2018 16:18:11 GMT -5
yeah I forgot about that one. William Regal has to be one of the best people to have in your corner when trying to get a deal with WWE and Davey just completely slapped him in the face. worse, he dragged Eddie down with him by association. My memory is hazy, but wasn't he knocked stupid when he was dropped on his head? First I'd heard of that.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 4, 2018 16:22:57 GMT -5
yeah I forgot about that one. William Regal has to be one of the best people to have in your corner when trying to get a deal with WWE and Davey just completely slapped him in the face. worse, he dragged Eddie down with him by association. My memory is hazy, but wasn't he knocked stupid when he was dropped on his head? I don't remember hearing that
The story I've heard is he disregarded the sign to take it home to get his shit in and they weren't pleased
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 4, 2018 16:25:26 GMT -5
You also have the infamous match him and Eddie had in an NXT tryout and supposedly Davey didn’t go home when they told him to. Keep in mind Regal is the one who put his rep on the line for that audition yeah I forgot about that one. William Regal has to be one of the best people to have in your corner when trying to get a deal with WWE and Davey just completely slapped him in the face. worse, he dragged Eddie down with him by association. I'm on the fence of Eddie is his own man and in a weird way the TNA move was probably the best move for him
They've treated him with a lot of respect and he's always involved in something. The man has held damn near every title possible for them and went to Noah and won there
However, in saying that I do hope at some point he goes to WWE and be like Ohno and EY in regards to trainer/wrestler for the young guys
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Post by Facetious on Aug 4, 2018 16:47:04 GMT -5
My memory is hazy, but wasn't he knocked stupid when he was dropped on his head? First I'd heard of that. My memory is hazy, but wasn't he knocked stupid when he was dropped on his head? I don't remember hearing that The story I've heard is he disregarded the sign to take it home to get his shit in and they weren't pleased
Yeah, I misremembered. He was dropped on his head and was told to go home but continued on.
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Post by Rave on Aug 4, 2018 16:50:50 GMT -5
Isn't he trying to be a doctor or firefighter now? I know him and Angelina Love both left TNA at the same time
He finally left wrestling to become a paramedic, as he is trained to be one. But he would always use that to get what he wanted from ROH and TNA. But the real reason he's a piece of garbage is when he held up an indy promoter, threatening violence and didn't even work a match(this also included Kyle O'Reilly and a couple of other Richards flunkies). He also was pretty infamous for no showing events, including New Japan shows which got him kicked out of the organization. Around that time, quite a few stories emerged about him piece of garbage. I remember the "Team Bandit" incident. Dumbass even tried to spin it into a storyline before begrudgingly apologizing. Even then, he only apologized for being an asshole towards the promoter, not for what his lackey Kozina did. Every time I see O'Reilly wrestle, I thank the Wrestling Gods that he got out of Davey's toxic sphere of influence.
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Aug 4, 2018 17:04:05 GMT -5
He finally left wrestling to become a paramedic, as he is trained to be one. But he would always use that to get what he wanted from ROH and TNA. But the real reason he's a piece of garbage is when he held up an indy promoter, threatening violence and didn't even work a match(this also included Kyle O'Reilly and a couple of other Richards flunkies). He also was pretty infamous for no showing events, including New Japan shows which got him kicked out of the organization. Around that time, quite a few stories emerged about him piece of garbage. I remember the "Team Bandit" incident. Dumbass even tried to spin it into a storyline before begrudgingly apologizing. Even then, he only apologized for being an asshole towards the promoter, not for what his lackey Kozina did. Every time I see O'Reilly wrestle, I thank the Wrestling Gods that he got out of Davey's toxic sphere of influence. Speaking of being a Mark, Kozina is a piece of shit and should have been blackballed for what he did.
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Post by Sam Punk on Aug 4, 2018 17:45:14 GMT -5
CM Punk.
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Post by corndog on Aug 4, 2018 21:57:11 GMT -5
He finally left wrestling to become a paramedic, as he is trained to be one. But he would always use that to get what he wanted from ROH and TNA. But the real reason he's a piece of garbage is when he held up an indy promoter, threatening violence and didn't even work a match(this also included Kyle O'Reilly and a couple of other Richards flunkies). He also was pretty infamous for no showing events, including New Japan shows which got him kicked out of the organization. Around that time, quite a few stories emerged about him piece of garbage. I remember the "Team Bandit" incident. Dumbass even tried to spin it into a storyline before begrudgingly apologizing. Even then, he only apologized for being an asshole towards the promoter, not for what his lackey Kozina did. Every time I see O'Reilly wrestle, I thank the Wrestling Gods that he got out of Davey's toxic sphere of influence. Yeah, Bobby Fish is definitely a much better person than Davey Richards.
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Post by Glitch on Aug 4, 2018 21:57:52 GMT -5
Virtually everyone who has EVER been pushed to world title level in a major promotion is a mark for themselves, until recently it was absolutely necessary. If you don't have the belief in your body of work to self promote, promoters aren't going to get behind you and you're going to spend your time laying down to make someone who is prepared to do that look good. Being a big mark for oneself is the difference between having a career like Shawn Michaels and having a career like Stevie Richards, Shawn may have had a string of great matches, but 70% of having a great match is getting the promoter to give you opportunity and time to showcase yourself in a way that isn't just polishing turds, carrying lesser workers with better backstage sales skills. Sting was a big main eventer without having his head up his own ass. Foley also went far without that attitude. Even back then, convincing others to give you a chance didn't necessitate believing your own hype.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 4, 2018 22:31:39 GMT -5
Virtually everyone who has EVER been pushed to world title level in a major promotion is a mark for themselves, until recently it was absolutely necessary. If you don't have the belief in your body of work to self promote, promoters aren't going to get behind you and you're going to spend your time laying down to make someone who is prepared to do that look good. Being a big mark for oneself is the difference between having a career like Shawn Michaels and having a career like Stevie Richards, Shawn may have had a string of great matches, but 70% of having a great match is getting the promoter to give you opportunity and time to showcase yourself in a way that isn't just polishing turds, carrying lesser workers with better backstage sales skills. That's painting way too big a brush
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 4, 2018 22:33:19 GMT -5
Virtually everyone who has EVER been pushed to world title level in a major promotion is a mark for themselves, until recently it was absolutely necessary. If you don't have the belief in your body of work to self promote, promoters aren't going to get behind you and you're going to spend your time laying down to make someone who is prepared to do that look good. Being a big mark for oneself is the difference between having a career like Shawn Michaels and having a career like Stevie Richards, Shawn may have had a string of great matches, but 70% of having a great match is getting the promoter to give you opportunity and time to showcase yourself in a way that isn't just polishing turds, carrying lesser workers with better backstage sales skills. Sting was a big main eventer without having his head up his own ass. Foley also went far without that attitude. Even back then, convincing others to give you a chance didn't necessitate believing your own hype. Yea, Mick was too giving if anything
The funniest thing i've heard Mick say in regards to referring to himself as a "star" is when he was staying in this cheap motel and he's laying there uncomfortable like why am I here, "i'm Mick F***ing Foley" lmao
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Aug 4, 2018 23:18:10 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels, and it probably isn't close.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 5, 2018 0:46:16 GMT -5
Sting was a big main eventer without having his head up his own ass. Foley also went far without that attitude. Even back then, convincing others to give you a chance didn't necessitate believing your own hype. Yea, Mick was too giving if anything
The funniest thing i've heard Mick say in regards to referring to himself as a "star" is when he was staying in this cheap motel and he's laying there uncomfortable like why am I here, "i'm Mick F***ing Foley" lmao
Mick also chose to sleep on the locker room while being wwe champion lol. Mick is the undisputed cheap champion.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 5, 2018 2:57:17 GMT -5
Virtually everyone who has EVER been pushed to world title level in a major promotion is a mark for themselves, until recently it was absolutely necessary. If you don't have the belief in your body of work to self promote, promoters aren't going to get behind you and you're going to spend your time laying down to make someone who is prepared to do that look good. Being a big mark for oneself is the difference between having a career like Shawn Michaels and having a career like Stevie Richards, Shawn may have had a string of great matches, but 70% of having a great match is getting the promoter to give you opportunity and time to showcase yourself in a way that isn't just polishing turds, carrying lesser workers with better backstage sales skills. Sting was a big main eventer without having his head up his own ass. Foley also went far without that attitude. Even back then, convincing others to give you a chance didn't necessitate believing your own hype. Sting had a great look compared to most WCW top guys and managed to sell himself to Flair, Dusty and get them in his corner so didn't need to be as open with his politicking as many. It's telling that when better self promoters entered WCW and his backers lost their hold over booking, Sting was bumped right down the pecking order and when he did regain his momentum, Hogan killed that and he never really recovered. Foley's spell as a top guy was brief and saw him getting years shaved off his long term health to make guys who were willing to self promote look good by getting bludgeoned to the point he now needs a full time babysitter... But either way, for every nice guy main eventer, there are ten or twenty who politicked and hyped themselves like hell to get there.
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