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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 20, 2018 8:48:03 GMT -5
When did this forum turn on AJ? I can't keep up with y'all, I swear. Okay, here goes.
Just because a dude should have been the Franchise Player in TNA, just because the dude was awesome in NJPW and helped to turn the company into what it is now, just because he was on fire in 2016 and the first half of 2017 does not make AJ immune from criticism for his matches now.
It doesn't mean that people shouldn't be critical of his character his performances in the ring. And it doesn't mean that people shouldn't want a new champion instead of AJ.
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Post by cabbageboy on Aug 20, 2018 8:54:40 GMT -5
Could it be that they want AJ to break the Punk 434 day number as well? I mean the Lesnar thing meant nothing because it isn't even the same belt and since Lesnar barely wrestled it wasn't like an actual title reign anyway. Pretty sure if AJ held it until WM then he would pass Punk on actual WWE title list.
I can see Miz getting a title shot at some point but he just needs to job. They're going to exhaust Bryan/Miz by the end of the year anyway, so why would it be a WM feud? Bryan ending an epic AJ title run would be a good resolution.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 8:54:44 GMT -5
I'm editing the OP again to include something at the beginning that's not see the given its at the end of the post.
This is an anti-AJ Styles as champion thread. It says that in the first post. If you disagree then take that to another thread. I said it for a reason.
We've had anti-Jinder, anti-Alexa and other anti threads about other wrestlers. Just because it's AJ doesn't mean you have to go against what the OP says. When people did that in other threads there were issues.
Come on now. If you like his reign make another thread.
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Post by chronocross on Aug 20, 2018 8:59:10 GMT -5
I'm cool with AJ as the champ for a year or so, to be honest I never thought he would have won it, let alone hold it as long as he did.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 20, 2018 9:02:42 GMT -5
"Daddy, you're bleeding"
Poor kid.
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Post by Nosnorb on Aug 20, 2018 9:49:05 GMT -5
"Daddy, you're bleeding" Poor kid. Yeah, that was hard to watch. She shouldn't have been out there really, and though its not on the same level (nowhere close), I recalled the 2010 Raven vs Tommy Dreamer match in TNA.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Aug 20, 2018 9:50:16 GMT -5
"Daddy, you're bleeding" Poor kid. Yeah, that was hard to watch. She shouldn't have been out there really, and though its not on the same level (nowhere close), I recalled the 2010 Raven vs Tommy Dreamer match in TNA. Yeah, I wouldn't even be letting my kid watch wrestling yet at that age probably, let alone be out there and talk about kicking someones ass with him in earshot then coming up to him while bleeding. Setting aside the traumatized child, it was a neat unscripted moment.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Aug 20, 2018 10:34:56 GMT -5
Miz will win it at survivor series. The seeds have already been planted for a feud. Miz and Bryan will headliner Wrestlemania 35. I don't know about headlining(after all, neither of them are named Roman Reigns), but I could definitely see that match happening at WM 35.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 11:37:59 GMT -5
When did this forum turn on AJ? I can't keep up with y'all, I swear. Personally speaking, for me, the KO feud a year ago was when his wrestling was going south; both dudes could put on great matches, but they were just super “meh” to me when they wrestled. A lot of that was put on KO, but it takes two to tango. The “Kami” shit was stupid as hell, too. Nakamura feud’s writing/booking were trash. The matches weren’t even that good. I generally liked his persona as a heel better in 2016/early 2017. As a face, he’s very bland. I did greatly enjoy his match with Demon Balor, but that was basically non-canonical. The Lesnar showing was interesting, too. All aspects of him as a performer aside... I also am really not a fan of personal things that have been shown by him (eg, using the “f” word [not f***] as an insult just a few years ago on the indies).
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Post by Abdullah on Aug 20, 2018 11:53:55 GMT -5
Not even the booking; everything in-ring tonight felt really off, like they're telling everyone on the roster to slow it down and hold it way back. Tonight didn't even have the good matches that can usually excuse WWE's shit booking, it just kind of completely fell apart. Really f***ing good wrestlers are having bland or "just okay" matches and there's no explanation for it. There's this inescapable sense in current WWE that the only way you're having a great match, especially on PPV, is if WWE explicitly wants it so. It's really hard to blame the wrestlers when you have this in mind. How many times did Rollins and Miz face off on RAW before they had that banger at Backlash? It wasn't exactly a fresh pairing. There's a lot more than individual talent or chemistry at play here.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 20, 2018 13:43:20 GMT -5
I'm editing the OP again to include something at the beginning that's not see the given its at the end of the post. This is an anti-AJ Styles as champion thread. It says that in the first post. If you disagree then take that to another thread. I said it for a reason. We've had anti-Jinder, anti-Alexa and other anti threads about other wrestlers. Just because it's AJ doesn't mean you have to go against what the OP says. When people did that in other threads there were issues. Come on now. If you like his reign make another thread. No. Don’t make another thread. This is a DISCUSSION forum. People can discuss things. We don’t need two separate threads for every single subject.
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Post by lmagicdancer1 on Aug 20, 2018 13:57:25 GMT -5
The dq finish didnt bother me some one has to go inside the cell next month.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 15:01:43 GMT -5
I'm editing the OP again to include something at the beginning that's not see the given its at the end of the post. This is an anti-AJ Styles as champion thread. It says that in the first post. If you disagree then take that to another thread. I said it for a reason. We've had anti-Jinder, anti-Alexa and other anti threads about other wrestlers. Just because it's AJ doesn't mean you have to go against what the OP says. When people did that in other threads there were issues. Come on now. If you like his reign make another thread. No. Don’t make another thread. This is a DISCUSSION forum. People can discuss things. We don’t need two separate threads for every single subject. I can link you other anti/appreciation threads that have the OP saying that there can't be any other type of discussion in those threads and yet those threads were continued to rock. With that said I'm definitely saving this post for the future because there's a contradiction given these other threads had no issue. There should be no problem with people having discussions when they want but when you have other threads that say "this isn't for that" and it's ok? Nah, that's not right across the board and it looks as though particular fanbases are being restricted. There needs to be a new rule on the front page saying this or at least something saying that it's slipped in the past. If you want to know which threads then hit me up through pm because I have them ready. Either way I have no problem with discussion. I just don't want to other threads to be able to say those things and yet with this one we can't? That isn't right.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 20, 2018 15:17:31 GMT -5
No. Don’t make another thread. This is a DISCUSSION forum. People can discuss things. We don’t need two separate threads for every single subject. I can link you other anti/appreciation threads that have the OP saying that there can't be any other type of discussion in those threads and yet those threads were continued to rock. With that said I'm definitely saving this post for the future because there's a contradiction given these other threads had no issue. There should be no problem with people having discussions when they want but when you have other threads that say "this isn't for that" and it's ok? Nah, that's not right across the board and it looks as though particular fanbases are being restricted. There needs to be a new rule on the front page saying this or at least something saying that it's slipped in the past. If you want to know which threads then hit me up through pm because I have them ready. Either way I have no problem with discussion. I just don't want to other threads to be able to say those things and yet with this one we can't? That isn't right. And in those cases, just because the OP says that no one can post a different opinion to theirs doesn’t mean that is the case. Of course, there will be some threads where it hasn’t been noticed by Staff but I don’t see it as particular fan bases being restricted. For example, I think Dolph Ziggler is an excellent worker. The general consensus here (at the moment) seems to be anti-Ziggler but I don’t see that as being restricted at all, it just means I’m in the minority. Yes, if someone is going into a thread that specifies a certain side to an argument and deliberately posts something contrary just to bait, then it should be stopped. But if people want to state their differing opinion and discuss why they think that, then it’s absolutely fine and exactly what a discussion forum is meant to be about. And in no way does a new rule need adding because it’s already addressed in Rule 2. The whole “this is for positive/negative comments only” line just smacks of “this is only for people who share my opinion and if you don’t like it, you can’t play here”.
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Post by Pushed to the Moon on Aug 20, 2018 15:26:33 GMT -5
AJ has been my boy since the TNA days but his "big" matches have seemed kinda off to me for a while. I don't know what's up with him.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 20, 2018 15:30:51 GMT -5
Convincing champion? Check. Over as hell? Check. Gives it his all every single time out? Check....yep, time to turn on him just cause it's been a minute. Swear, people can't be happy at all having good shit.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 15:32:46 GMT -5
I can link you other anti/appreciation threads that have the OP saying that there can't be any other type of discussion in those threads and yet those threads were continued to rock. With that said I'm definitely saving this post for the future because there's a contradiction given these other threads had no issue. There should be no problem with people having discussions when they want but when you have other threads that say "this isn't for that" and it's ok? Nah, that's not right across the board and it looks as though particular fanbases are being restricted. There needs to be a new rule on the front page saying this or at least something saying that it's slipped in the past. If you want to know which threads then hit me up through pm because I have them ready. Either way I have no problem with discussion. I just don't want to other threads to be able to say those things and yet with this one we can't? That isn't right. And in those cases, just because the OP says that no one can post a different opinion to theirs doesn’t mean that is the case. Of course, there will be some threads where it hasn’t been noticed by Staff but I don’t see it as particular fan bases being restricted. For example, I think Dolph Ziggler is an excellent worker. The general consensus here (at the moment) seems to be anti-Ziggler but I don’t see that as being restricted at all, it just means I’m in the minority. Yes, if someone is going into a thread that specifies a certain side to an argument and deliberately posts something contrary just to bait, then it should be stopped. But if people want to state their differing opinion and discuss why they think that, then it’s absolutely fine and exactly what a discussion forum is meant to be about. And in no way does a new rule need adding because it’s already addressed in Rule 2. The whole “this is for positive/negative comments only” line just smacks of “this is only for people who share my opinion and if you don’t like it, you can’t play here”. Ok dope, I'll go ahead and edit the OP then because personally I don't want any restricted discussion of any opinions. I just saw some threads that had that in the past and I didn't even know it was possible for threads like that to be made, I figured all discussion (as long as no rules were broken) was fine. Glad to see that's the case. I'm all for discussion so this is a positive.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Aug 20, 2018 15:37:27 GMT -5
And in those cases, just because the OP says that no one can post a different opinion to theirs doesn’t mean that is the case. Of course, there will be some threads where it hasn’t been noticed by Staff but I don’t see it as particular fan bases being restricted. For example, I think Dolph Ziggler is an excellent worker. The general consensus here (at the moment) seems to be anti-Ziggler but I don’t see that as being restricted at all, it just means I’m in the minority. Yes, if someone is going into a thread that specifies a certain side to an argument and deliberately posts something contrary just to bait, then it should be stopped. But if people want to state their differing opinion and discuss why they think that, then it’s absolutely fine and exactly what a discussion forum is meant to be about. And in no way does a new rule need adding because it’s already addressed in Rule 2. The whole “this is for positive/negative comments only” line just smacks of “this is only for people who share my opinion and if you don’t like it, you can’t play here”. Ok dope, I'll go ahead and edit the OP then because personally I don't want any restricted discussion of any opinions. I just saw some threads that had that in the past and I didn't even know it was possible for threads like that to be made, I figured all discussion (as long as no rules were broken) was fine. Glad to see that's the case. I'm all for discussion so this is a positive. I’m not singling you out because it’s your thread, this is something that I’ve always taken issue with. I used to actually edit any thread title that had “appreciation/depreciation” to “discussion”. Bottom line, if anyone thinks someone is going into a thread just to bait, then report it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2018 16:00:02 GMT -5
Convincing champion? Check. Over as hell? Check. Gives it his all every single time out? Check....yep, time to turn on him just cause it's been a minute. Swear, people can't be happy at all having good shit. Man, it's not even about how convincing and over he is nor is it about how hard he works. The guy's been champion for over 9 months and some people feel that others can get a chance to shine too especially with the amount of talent they have on the roster. That's all it is. It would freshen storylines up rather than having AJ have his time as world champion again. Like, that's really all it is. We could have seen if Nakamura can run with the ball for a few months and be at the top for a bit, we could have seen Rusev potentially do it. We could have had Miz/Bryan for Summerslam resulting in a Bryan loss potentially (yeah you don't like Miz but that's a fresher storyline than AJ defending again), it's all about the storyline aspect. If that doesn't work? Have them lose the belt to Styles again and give it to somebody else. Overall though, with me? I'm a writer so when I see something that's stale and continuous? It sticks out to me. I can't do the same thing twice so in this case it's been 9 months of the same thing with Styles. I'd rather switch it up. This Styles reigns feels like there's no direction, there's no story as to why he's champion this long which goes back to a previous report that said Styles beat Nakamura due to the fact he had that game cover coming out. It's not really good in my eyes especially with a long run. Long runs are hard to do and when AJ (someone who's got less fire than he had when he was a heel champion) is out here coasting when you've got guys out there cutting better promos and are getting in their bag compared to him? Nah, that's not compelling. It's not all about how great somebody is in the ring. It's been 9 months and I'm feeling a lack of energy from Styles and seeing the same storylines over with the heel pissing him off and him doing the same stuff in the feuds. It's been that way since he's been champion. Ok dope, I'll go ahead and edit the OP then because personally I don't want any restricted discussion of any opinions. I just saw some threads that had that in the past and I didn't even know it was possible for threads like that to be made, I figured all discussion (as long as no rules were broken) was fine. Glad to see that's the case. I'm all for discussion so this is a positive. I’m not singling you out because it’s your thread, this is something that I’ve always taken issue with. I used to actually edit any thread title that had “appreciation/depreciation” to “discussion”. Bottom line, if anyone thinks someone is going into a thread just to bait, then report it. Yeah that's something I agree with. I've never liked the appreciation/depression threads because discussions as a whole just fulfill a lot more compared to those previously. I mean yeah you can celebrate ina discussion thread too but forums are made for discussing for a reason.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Aug 20, 2018 16:04:58 GMT -5
Convincing champion? Check. Over as hell? Check. Gives it his all every single time out? Check....yep, time to turn on him just cause it's been a minute. Swear, people can't be happy at all having good shit. Man, it's not even about how convincing and over he is nor is it about how hard he works. The guy's been champion for over 9 months and some people feel that others can get a chance to shine too especially with the amount of talent they have on the roster. That's all it is. It would freshen storylines up rather than having AJ have his time as world champion again. Like, that's really all it is. We could have seen if Nakamura can run with the ball for a few months and be at the top for a bit, we could have seen Rusev potentially do it. We could have had Miz/Bryan for Summerslam resulting in a Bryan loss potentially (yeah you don't like Miz but that's a fresher storyline than AJ defending again), it's all about the storyline aspect. If that doesn't work? Have them lose the belt to Styles again and give it to somebody else. Overall though, with me? I'm a writer so when I see something that's stale and continuous? It sticks out to me. I can't do the same thing twice so in this case it's been 9 months of the same thing with Styles. I'd rather switch it up. This Styles reigns feels like there's no direction, there's no story as to why he's champion this long which goes back to a previous report that said Styles beat Nakamura due to the fact he had that game cover coming out. It's not really good in my eyes especially with a long run. Long runs are hard to do and when AJ (someone who's got less fire than he had when he was a heel champion) is out here coasting when you've got guys out there cutting better promos and are getting in their bag compared to him? Nah, that's not compelling. It's not all about how great somebody is in the ring. It's been 9 months and I'm feeling a lack of energy from Styles and seeing the same storylines over with the heel pissing him off and him doing the same stuff in the feuds. It's been that way since he's been champion. I’m not singling you out because it’s your thread, this is something that I’ve always taken issue with. I used to actually edit any thread title that had “appreciation/depreciation” to “discussion”. Bottom line, if anyone thinks someone is going into a thread just to bait, then report it. Yeah that's something I agree with. I've never liked the appreciation/depression threads because discussions as a whole just fulfill a lot more compared to those previously. I mean yeah you can celebrate ina discussion thread too but forums are made for discussing for a reason. If you have a hot hand, you play the hot hand. AJ is the hot hand right now. You admit he's over, you admit he works hard. Basically, your issue is "He's been champ for sooo long, though", in spite of all he brings to the table, and keeps bringing to the table. You don't get a title reign because it's "Your turn". You get it by getting, being, and staying hot. AJ does that.
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