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Post by Topher is Human on Dec 21, 2006 22:00:59 GMT -5
That's as wrong as Testament... No offence
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Post by erisi236 on Dec 21, 2006 22:15:04 GMT -5
That's as wrong as Testament... No offence are you saying Testament is not thrash?
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Post by Photogenic Huss Bosh on Dec 21, 2006 22:55:42 GMT -5
That's as wrong as Testament... No offence are you saying Testament is not thrash? Check out Lights......Camera.......Revolution by Suicidal Tendencies and tell me that isn't thrash. I honestly think it's a hell of alot better than anything Metallica's ever done.
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Post by Bill. on Dec 21, 2006 23:04:40 GMT -5
That's as wrong as Testament... No offence No, it's as wrong as Anthrax.
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Post by Topher is Human on Dec 22, 2006 7:23:27 GMT -5
That's as wrong as Testament... No offence are you saying Testament is not thrash? Of course not, they're just not one of the big 4. Plus they suck
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Post by Flynnyrd on Dec 22, 2006 8:25:18 GMT -5
Nah, I agree. Testament, while not one of the big 4, is pretty underrated. Into the Pit rocks...
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Post by The Jeebus on Dec 22, 2006 8:28:12 GMT -5
I wonder how many people voted for Metallica despite having listened to only one album (if that) of the other three. Actually, I wonder how many voted for them because they like Enter Sandman. I would attribute Metallica's early success to them riding on the coattails of their first two albums, and releasing the album which happened to set the 'standard' for the upcoming trend in the entire hard rock genre (in this bracket includes groove metal, nu metal, alternative rock, grunge etc.), Master of Puppets. Their first two albums were their only albums which were thrash start-to-finish (both were excellent, Lightning in particular). Puppets and Justice were a mixture of thrash, Sabbath worship, progressive metal and thrash, doom and more progressive respectively, and neither come close to the quality of Slayer and Megadeth's thrash offerings at the time. Not only aren't Justice or Puppets completely thrash, but they're not even that good either.
Overall Anthrax is good; their first album was basic and nowhere near as good as the other three's debut albums and anything with John Bush is totally gay, but the Belladonna-era Anthrax material is awesome and makes up for their crappy stuff.
Slayer's an awesome band. Their first album was NWOBHM, but was merely a precursor of what to come. Soon came their EP, Haunting the Chapel, which has the track Chemical Warfare which craps on anything Metallica did after Lightning from a great height. Then came Hell Awaits which was also great. Reign In Blood is overrated, but is still beyond awesome. South of Heaven is even better. They slowly went downhill after that, but still remained awesome until Diabolus in Musica. God Hates Us All was awful, but Christ Illusion is great and you should go out and buy it. Basically, Slayer is just awesome.
Then there's Megadeth. Repeat what I said about Slayer, but with the names rearranged. I voted for Megadeth, but that comes down to personal preference.
EDIT: Slayer are laid back guys when they're not writing about warfare, people being executed, Nazis and crucifying people. Kerry's sometimes hilarious in interviews.
And Testament is annoying. After listening to one of the best metal songs of all time, Practice What You Preach, I had to endure countless minutes of awful music to figure out that that's their only good song (not true, they have a couple of other good ones, but that's it).
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Post by tommyvercetti on Dec 22, 2006 8:41:12 GMT -5
I voted for Metallica because their first five albums were classics....the next two were good for what they were..and the only truly bad material they put out IMO was St Anger.
I like Slayer..Reign In Blood..South Of Heaven..Seasons Of The Abyss..Undisuted Attitude.
Previous and after this time frame they have their moments but overall bore me.
Anthrax will always be undderrated..Sound Of White Noise was a classic.
Megadeth put out as much garbage as they did good material to my ears.
Its funny..Megadeth can become a pop band just like Metallica did during that period..but noone disses Megadeth because they didnt cut their hair.
Suicidal tendancies is and always will be an amazing band.
I honestly think Sepultura can hold a candle to any of these bands.
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Post by The Jeebus on Dec 22, 2006 9:00:41 GMT -5
Its funny..Megadeth can become a pop band just like Metallica did during that period..but noone disses Megadeth because they didnt cut their hair. I haven't actually heard Cryptic Writings, but Risk is beyond awful. If you think nobody shits on Mustaine for those two albums, go to any heavy metal forum or review site. In fact, Dave even admitted that Writings and Risk were only done for the money and that Risk was a mistake.
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Post by tommyvercetti on Dec 22, 2006 9:04:34 GMT -5
Its funny..Megadeth can become a pop band just like Metallica did during that period..but noone disses Megadeth because they didnt cut their hair. I haven't actually heard Cryptic Writings, but Risk is beyond awful. If you think nobody craps on Mustaine for those two albums, go to any heavy metal forum or review site. In fact, Dave even admitted that Writings and Risk were only done for the money and that Risk was a mistake. But you dont see anywhere near the backlash against Megadeth for moving their music mainstream than Metallica did.
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Post by Topher is Human on Dec 22, 2006 9:05:12 GMT -5
Its funny..Megadeth can become a pop band just like Metallica did during that period..but noone disses Megadeth because they didnt cut their hair. I haven't actually heard Cryptic Writings, but Risk is beyond awful. If you think nobody craps on Mustaine for those two albums, go to any heavy metal forum or review site. In fact, Dave even admitted that Writings and Risk were only done for the money and that Risk was a mistake. Although Crush 'Em off of Risk rules... just sayin
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Post by The Jeebus on Dec 22, 2006 9:09:42 GMT -5
I haven't actually heard Cryptic Writings, but Risk is beyond awful. If you think nobody craps on Mustaine for those two albums, go to any heavy metal forum or review site. In fact, Dave even admitted that Writings and Risk were only done for the money and that Risk was a mistake. But you dont see anywhere near the backlash against Megadeth for moving their music mainstream than Metallica did. It depends where you hear it. Some forums and sites are of the same mentality and sentiment that "Metallica are sellouts!" and "Load and ReLoad BRAAAAGH" while others recognize that both, and other bands, have all sold out in one way or another. Then again, everyone's heard Metallica, not the same with Megadeth.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Dec 22, 2006 9:10:44 GMT -5
I haven't actually heard Cryptic Writings, but Risk is beyond awful. If you think nobody craps on Mustaine for those two albums, go to any heavy metal forum or review site. In fact, Dave even admitted that Writings and Risk were only done for the money and that Risk was a mistake. But you dont see anywhere near the backlash against Megadeth for moving their music mainstream than Metallica did. Because Megadeth never sold 10 million albums. Metallica had more mainstream attention due to their sales and prominence. Thus, when the backlash hit, it seemed more prominent. Trust me, Megadeth's fanbase took a huge hit just like Metallica's after "Risk" and "Cryptic Writings" (and, arguably, "Youthanasia") ... it just didn't get as much press because Megadeth was never as big. Jed Shaffer ~Why isn't anyone voting for Nuclear Assault? Or Sacred Reich?
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Post by tommyvercetti on Dec 22, 2006 9:18:08 GMT -5
I stand by my Sepultura statement.
They really could hold a candle to anyone.
And even after Max left the stuff they put out had its good moments.
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Post by Topher is Human on Dec 22, 2006 9:36:31 GMT -5
I stand by my Sepultura statement. They really could hold a candle to anyone. And even after Max left the stuff they put out had its good moments. As much of a metal fan as I am, I admit I havent heard any Sepultura
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Dec 22, 2006 10:00:33 GMT -5
I stand by my Sepultura statement. They really could hold a candle to anyone. And even after Max left the stuff they put out had its good moments. You had me up to the last statement. Without Max, Sep is a bland nu-metal band. Jed Shaffer ~But "Chaos A.D." ... SEMINAL album.
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Post by tommyvercetti on Dec 22, 2006 10:04:17 GMT -5
I stand by my Sepultura statement. They really could hold a candle to anyone. And even after Max left the stuff they put out had its good moments. You had me up to the last statement. Without Max, Sep is a bland nu-metal band. Jed Shaffer ~But "Chaos A.D." ... SEMINAL album. Oh BS. "Arise" and "NAtion" were not nu metal. Hell ...Soulfly are way more nu metal than Derrick Green -Sepultura ever thought of being.
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Post by dennisisevil on Dec 22, 2006 10:09:43 GMT -5
Metallica. Yes I voted for them, Bite Me trendies.
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Post by Brain Of F'n J on Dec 22, 2006 10:20:52 GMT -5
You had me up to the last statement. Without Max, Sep is a bland nu-metal band. Jed Shaffer ~But "Chaos A.D." ... SEMINAL album. Oh BS. "Arise" and "NAtion" were not nu metal. Hell ...Soulfly are way more nu metal than Derrick Green -Sepultura ever thought of being. Um, isn't "Arise" part of the Max era? But I can't agree with you on Soulfly vs. new Sep. New Sep=nu-metal schlock. Max was the heart and soul. Metallica's nosediving sales bore out that their quality is on a downward spiral. That's not a "trend", and recognizing declining quality doesn't make someone a "trendy". Jed Shaffer ~"Trendy" Metallica fans would be the ones who only own the black album.
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Post by tommyvercetti on Dec 22, 2006 10:23:52 GMT -5
Oh BS. "Arise" and "NAtion" were not nu metal. Hell ...Soulfly are way more nu metal than Derrick Green -Sepultura ever thought of being. Um, isn't "Arise" part of the Max era? But I can't agree with you on Soulfly vs. new Sep. New Sep=nu-metal schlock. Max was the heart and soul. Metallica's nosediving sales bore out that their quality is on a downward spiral. That's not a "trend", and recognizing declining quality doesn't make someone a "trendy". Jed Shaffer ~"Trendy" Metallica fans would be the ones who only own the black album. I meant "Against" instead of "Arise." Anyways..I think post Max era Sepultura was a good band..and I dont hear any connection with Limp Bizkit or Deftones. In fact..I've always thought that Soulfly was just a good, harder, more original Nu metal band. I'm not saying I dont enjoy the Max era more....but I certainly dont think Derrick Green era is without merit.
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