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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Oct 10, 2018 13:43:04 GMT -5
So finally got around to watching this and I really enjoyed it. It's only one episode but it felt like a major improvement over what Moff was putting out over his last few years. All the characters were likeable and the show was just fun. Plus they kept it simple. That was always a major problem with Moffat, he overthought and overcomplicated everything to try to make it seem amazing rather then just concentrating on giving us good solid stories. Same issues I had as well. Such a shame since I thought Capaldi was terrific but the writing was so awful most of the time. Thought Jodi was fantastic, felt at home with other modern Doctor's (I say that since I haven't really watched the older stuff) and the companions were competent and likable. Simple way to start off but it worked. Can't wait for the rest of the season. P.S. Loved the creation of her screwdriver, such a fun little scene.
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Post by schma on Oct 10, 2018 23:27:01 GMT -5
So finally got around to watching this and I really enjoyed it. It's only one episode but it felt like a major improvement over what Moff was putting out over his last few years. All the characters were likeable and the show was just fun. Plus they kept it simple. That was always a major problem with Moffat, he overthought and overcomplicated everything to try to make it seem amazing rather then just concentrating on giving us good solid stories. Same issues I had as well. Such a shame since I thought Capaldi was terrific but the writing was so awful most of the time. Thought Jodi was fantastic, felt at home with other modern Doctor's (I say that since I haven't really watched the older stuff) and the companions were competent and likable. Simple way to start off but it worked. Can't wait for the rest of the season. P.S. Loved the creation of her screwdriver, such a fun little scene. I definitely became a heavy critic of Moffatt's work not long after he took over and this is part of it. I think it's amazing what Matt Smith was able to do considering some of the writing he had to deal with. Honestly, I'd argue he succeed in spite of Moffatt.
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Post by Malibu Albino on Oct 11, 2018 12:11:06 GMT -5
Moffatt also overstayed his welcome, 6 series is way too long for a Who showrunner. I honestly think Davies had the right idea at getting out after 4 (with some specials) and I hope that becomes the mold for future showrunners. My biggest disappointment is that we never got to see what Capaldi could do without Moffatt's bloated style behind the scenes.
As for the new episode, I enjoyed it. The main baddie wasn't anything special but a regeneration episode rarely has a memorable baddie. Jodie was fantastic and I enjoy all the new companions. I actually like having a larger than normal group for the Doctor to play off of, could make for some fun stories throughout the season. I just hope to god none of them end up being super special and important to the universe, that shit is played out.
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Post by corndog on Oct 11, 2018 12:48:15 GMT -5
I couldn't really get into Capaldi much, so I never watched his last season, maybe I should check it out. I usually tend to gravitate towards more light-hearted doctors, as I really liked Matt Smith and Tom Baker is my all time favorite. Personally, I liked what I saw from Jodie Whitaker, although the episode left something to be desired. I will certainly give this season a chance.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 11, 2018 15:39:01 GMT -5
Didn't post in here but saw the episode thought it was excellent.
She did a great job as the Doctor and the change in show runner was very obvious and welcome as Moffat probably should have left with Smith.
It would probably made helped the writing on Capaldi's run... though the Bill series was much better.
And like i'm sure others have said Capaldi himself was great as the doctor he was just usually failed by the writing around him.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Oct 11, 2018 16:00:44 GMT -5
Same issues I had as well. Such a shame since I thought Capaldi was terrific but the writing was so awful most of the time. Thought Jodi was fantastic, felt at home with other modern Doctor's (I say that since I haven't really watched the older stuff) and the companions were competent and likable. Simple way to start off but it worked. Can't wait for the rest of the season. P.S. Loved the creation of her screwdriver, such a fun little scene. I definitely became a heavy critic of Moffatt's work not long after he took over and this is part of it. I think it's amazing what Matt Smith was able to do considering some of the writing he had to deal with. Honestly, I'd argue he succeed in spite of Moffatt. I didn't like a lot of Moffat's early stuff with Matt Smith - his portrayal of Amy, his overuse of River Song, his overreliance on Fairy Tale/Fantasy concepts as opposed to sci-fi, etc. But the one positive thing I can say about his Matt Smith stuff is that it always felt like he had a greater plan going on. There was an over-arching story to all this and it was building to something. That kinda went away when Matt Smith left. Hell even before that, when Karen Gillan left. After that it just felt like he was throwing anything against the wall to see what stuck. Sadly Peter Capaldi got caught up in all that.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Oct 11, 2018 18:55:47 GMT -5
Ok, question, what's the deal with the "special edition" of "The Woman who Fell to Earth" that BBC America aired later that night? Are there any new/extended/alternate scenes in it? Or is it just more backstage interviews and stuff and fan reaction? It's been sitting in my DVR with a lot of other stuff the last couple of days, and if it's the latter then I'd rather just delete it and catch up on my Lucha Underground. But if it's the former then I'd really like to watch it. Can anybody fill me in?
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Post by schma on Oct 11, 2018 23:07:52 GMT -5
I definitely became a heavy critic of Moffatt's work not long after he took over and this is part of it. I think it's amazing what Matt Smith was able to do considering some of the writing he had to deal with. Honestly, I'd argue he succeed in spite of Moffatt. I didn't like a lot of Moffat's early stuff with Matt Smith - his portrayal of Amy, his overuse of River Song, his overreliance on Fairy Tale/Fantasy concepts as opposed to sci-fi, etc. But the one positive thing I can say about his Matt Smith stuff is that it always felt like he had a greater plan going on. There was an over-arching story to all this and it was building to something. That kinda went away when Matt Smith left. Hell even before that, when Karen Gillan left. After that it just felt like he was throwing anything against the wall to see what stuck. Sadly Peter Capaldi got caught up in all that. Yeah, I almost gave up on the show during his first season as show runner but my friends who had already seen the season encouraged me to stick with it and then there was the reveal that everything had been planned. What irked me however was that he seemed to ignore continuity when it was inconvenient, even if he had established it. Then he ran the weeping angels into the ground, changing the rules every time they appeared until we had a freaking Statue of Liberty Weeping Angel. I will grant that that made for an amazing visual but it also made no sense. You're telling me that not a single person in NYC looked up at the booming that was enough to shake buildings and looked at the Statue of Liberty moving? Or even the idea that he couldn't go back to get them because the area around it was too messed up for time travel. Okay, go to chicago of that era, they hop a train to meet up and done. Like I said, plotholes large enough to drive a tank through. That was what really soured me on him. That and as you mentioned, over reliance on River and other issues around companions.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 12, 2018 1:15:23 GMT -5
I didn't like a lot of Moffat's early stuff with Matt Smith - his portrayal of Amy, his overuse of River Song, his overreliance on Fairy Tale/Fantasy concepts as opposed to sci-fi, etc. But the one positive thing I can say about his Matt Smith stuff is that it always felt like he had a greater plan going on. There was an over-arching story to all this and it was building to something. That kinda went away when Matt Smith left. Hell even before that, when Karen Gillan left. After that it just felt like he was throwing anything against the wall to see what stuck. Sadly Peter Capaldi got caught up in all that. Yeah, I almost gave up on the show during his first season as show runner but my friends who had already seen the season encouraged me to stick with it and then there was the reveal that everything had been planned. What irked me however was that he seemed to ignore continuity when it was inconvenient, even if he had established it. Then he ran the weeping angels into the ground, changing the rules every time they appeared until we had a freaking Statue of Liberty Weeping Angel. I will grant that that made for an amazing visual but it also made no sense. You're telling me that not a single person in NYC looked up at the booming that was enough to shake buildings and looked at the Statue of Liberty moving? Or even the idea that he couldn't go back to get them because the area around it was too messed up for time travel. Okay, go to chicago of that era, they hop a train to meet up and done. Like I said, plotholes large enough to drive a tank through. That was what really soured me on him. That and as you mentioned, over reliance on River and other issues around companions. Yeah the Amy/Rory thing bugged me too, even if it was to do with time more than area, go back like, 50 years extra, or however many he needed to avoid the effects and wait it out.
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Post by CMWaters on Oct 14, 2018 15:24:54 GMT -5
*Peeks, drops this off...with the treat that is shown at the end.
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Post by Legion on Oct 14, 2018 16:01:06 GMT -5
I thought today's episode was boring. It didn't really keep my attention at all.
It's more filler to set up some mystery than anything else, which I think is a misstep for just episode 2 of the season.
I also dislike the new redesign for the Tardis. It's too dark. It doesn't feel like it matches her - although some of extra parts of the console work well.
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Post by Kalmia on Oct 14, 2018 16:11:00 GMT -5
It was a bit of a dull episode, I think.
It looked great though, which is unusual for Doctor Who! The location was amazing. I still love Jodie, and hope that she gets a better story next week.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Oct 14, 2018 16:30:20 GMT -5
really REALLY enjoyed this week, since i again watched TUAT and TWWFTE again liked it's pace loved the location in south africa loved it's simplicity too and LOVING jodie's take of the doctor! and it seemed like the TARDIS fed off the planet's texture of sand and rock to fashion a new interior ..... still needs some light though .....
and no they won't get back home don't be daft
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Post by schma on Oct 14, 2018 17:16:41 GMT -5
I enjoyed the episode. It gave us a better glimpse into the characters and was good times. If they keep this up, I'll be genuinely excited by the series for the first time in a while. Jodie is great as the Doctor thus far and I'm looking forward to next week.
Edited to add that my initial glimpse of the TARDIS made me think something was wrong because of how dark it was. It seems an odd contrast to Jodie but I'll give it a chance.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Oct 14, 2018 18:03:46 GMT -5
oh and hexagons ..... in MY TARDIS? hexagons ..... hexagal .....
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Post by 'Foretold' Joker on Oct 15, 2018 4:25:05 GMT -5
Watched the first two episodes and thought they were good and refreshing. Hopeful for the series
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Post by Hot Noodle Truck on Oct 15, 2018 7:30:39 GMT -5
Digging it so far. Feels fresh again after the last few years.
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Post by SmashTV on Oct 15, 2018 7:48:07 GMT -5
I think that Jodie Whittaker is doing a fine job. The novelty of the Dr being a woman has worn off, her companions are a likeable bunch and there seems to be a renewed energy in the series.
I personally thought that the new Tardis looks quite cool, which is always a plus point. Here's to some classic episodes this series.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Oct 15, 2018 9:19:59 GMT -5
Decent episode. The show is not as addictive as it was ten years ago but I am enjoying this new season so far so I’m definitely optimistic about it.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Oct 15, 2018 20:43:36 GMT -5
exclusive look at what the new TARDIS will look like ..... {Spoiler} funny that now i want to buy a bar
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