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Post by Pooh Carlson on Dec 20, 2020 2:00:55 GMT -5
I got a thought, that I think is spoiler free. Grogu is 50 years old and still an infant. Some have begun to speculate what his canon future could be. All Im saying is in 20 or 30 years is he gonna be anything more than the equivalent of an 8 year old? And if this is the case, how independent could he really be? By 100, Yoda was a Jedi master training others, so there's gotta be a growth spurt somewhere in the next 50 years.
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Post by lildude8218 on Dec 20, 2020 2:15:00 GMT -5
I'm not saying he deserves an award but Bill Burr at least deserves consideration for the guest star Emmy after that episode.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 20, 2020 2:49:24 GMT -5
I'm not saying he deserves an award but Bill Burr at least deserves consideration for the guest star Emmy after that episode. He probably won't because it's impossible to know just how much of the season he was actually in the armor, but Pedro Pascal deserves a nomination based on the two scenes without a helmet. The man gives two dynamite performances, conveying a multitude of emotions while barely saying a word.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 20, 2020 2:51:23 GMT -5
By 100, Yoda was a Jedi master training others, so there's gotta be a growth spurt somewhere in the next 50 years. We may find out, since the High Republic era takes place during the early part and middle of Yoda's life. You can bet your ass young Yoda is showing up in that High Republic show.
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Post by adamclark52 on Dec 20, 2020 3:33:23 GMT -5
Sadly the best nominations any Star Wars media can ever expect is in special effects, music or wardrobe.
Hell, it took allowing the Academy to completely ignore the Fellowship of the Ring and the Two Towers for them to admit defeat and give all the awards they should have won in years previous to the Return of the King
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Dec 20, 2020 7:36:04 GMT -5
Sadly the best nominations any Star Wars media can ever expect is in special effects, music or wardrobe. Hell, it took allowing the Academy to completely ignore the Fellowship of the Ring and the Two Towers for them to admit defeat and give all the awards they should have won in years previous to the Return of the King A New Hope was nominated for Best Picture and Best Director. It won a “special achievement” Oscar.
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Post by Citizen Snips on Dec 20, 2020 8:29:27 GMT -5
Sadly the best nominations any Star Wars media can ever expect is in special effects, music or wardrobe. Hell, it took allowing the Academy to completely ignore the Fellowship of the Ring and the Two Towers for them to admit defeat and give all the awards they should have won in years previous to the Return of the King Fellowship of the Ring was nominated for 13 Academy Awards including Best Picture, Best Director and the only acting Oscar of the trilogy and won 4. Two Towers was nominated for 6 including Best Picture and won 2. They weren't ignoring it, they didn't want the three films to just sweep through the Oscars for 3 straight years. People were saying as early as the 2001 nominations were announced that they were probably going to hold off and consider Return of the King the entire trilogy and give that a ton of Oscars, which is exactly what happened.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 20, 2020 9:45:42 GMT -5
I think the Luke we saw in Chapter 16 was the Luke that was in the early stages of the hubris that caused him so much regret in TLJ. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Consider the contrast between what Luke was taught... And what he did... As Beru and Owen were aware of, there's a lot of Anakin - and thus, Vader - in Luke; we see a flash of it when he pummels Vader and cuts his hand off, and again in the corridor, so of a sudden this Luke - a Luke who slowly crushes an opponent he has immobilised rather than quickly cutting it down - feels like he could momentarily consider killing his nephew in his sleep. It also explains why the Resistance was so desperate to find look in TFA. It wasn't for the wisdom & leadership of a Jedi. It was to do that.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Dec 20, 2020 12:02:51 GMT -5
The Mandalorian was Emmy nominated for Outstanding Drama Series, it will probably be again for the next Emmys in 2021. Burr could get nominated for Outstanding Guest Actor too.
I don't really have any interest in tying the Sequel trilogy to The Mandalorian. The movies exist and if Favreau and Filoni find something they can tie-in, then great, but I'm not itching for anything.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Dec 20, 2020 12:51:03 GMT -5
I think the Luke we saw in Chapter 16 was the Luke that was in the early stages of the hubris that caused him so much regret in TLJ. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Consider the contrast between what Luke was taught... And what he did... As Beru and Owen were aware of, there's a lot of Anakin - and thus, Vader - in Luke; we see a flash of it when he pummels Vader and cuts his hand off, and again in the corridor, so of a sudden this Luke - a Luke who slowly crushes an opponent he has immobilised rather than quickly cutting it down - feels like he could momentarily consider killing his nephew in his sleep. {Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I feel like that's a bit of a stretch considering the opponent he crushed was just a droid. An evil killer droid, but still just a hunk of scrap.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 20, 2020 13:41:37 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I feel like that's a bit of a stretch considering the opponent he crushed was just a droid. An evil killer droid, but still just a hunk of scrap. {Spoiler}Droid or not, slowly squeezing the life out of something when it would be easier and more merciful to just strike it down is a total Vader move. Favreau and Filoni don't just do stuff arbitrarily, and it's definitely not in line with the shining white knight sequel detractors portrayed Luke as.
Besides, in Star Wars droids are considered sentient beings, even ones programmed to be relentless murderbots.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Dec 20, 2020 14:05:38 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I feel like that's a bit of a stretch considering the opponent he crushed was just a droid. An evil killer droid, but still just a hunk of scrap. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Droid or not, slowly squeezing the life out of something when it would be easier and more merciful to just strike it down is a total Vader move. Favreau and Filoni don't just do stuff arbitrarily, and it's definitely not in line with the shining white knight sequel detractors portrayed Luke as.
Besides, in Star Wars droids are considered sentient beings, even ones programmed to be relentless murderbots. {Spoiler}There was a video (maybe on Star Wars Theory?), that brought out other Jedi have used similar powers on droids, including Mace Windu and Anakin using force crush in the original Clone Wars movie. It's a grey area since its a droid.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Dec 20, 2020 14:35:51 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}I feel like that's a bit of a stretch considering the opponent he crushed was just a droid. An evil killer droid, but still just a hunk of scrap. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Droid or not, slowly squeezing the life out of something when it would be easier and more merciful to just strike it down is a total Vader move. Favreau and Filoni don't just do stuff arbitrarily, and it's definitely not in line with the shining white knight sequel detractors portrayed Luke as.
Besides, in Star Wars droids are considered sentient beings, even ones programmed to be relentless murderbots. All those Jedi during the Clone Wars must have been eviler than Anakin then. Ahsoka, Windu, Obi-Wan, and others used force powers other than lightsabers to destroy droids during the Clone Wars, destroying a droid isn't considered a dark side action in Star Wars. And not all droids are sentient beings, a lot are remote controlled. Likely, the Dark Troopers were robotic killing machines.
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Post by adamclark52 on Dec 20, 2020 14:36:58 GMT -5
Sadly the best nominations any Star Wars media can ever expect is in special effects, music or wardrobe. Hell, it took allowing the Academy to completely ignore the Fellowship of the Ring and the Two Towers for them to admit defeat and give all the awards they should have won in years previous to the Return of the King Fellowship of the Ring was nominated for 13 Academy Awards including Best Picture, Best Director and the only acting Oscar of the trilogy and won 4. Two Towers was nominated for 6 including Best Picture and won 2. They weren't ignoring it, they didn't want the three films to just sweep through the Oscars for 3 straight years. People were saying as early as the 2001 nominations were announced that they were probably going to hold off and consider Return of the King the entire trilogy and give that a ton of Oscars, which is exactly what happened. shit I didn’t even remember that. I humbly stand corrected
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Post by adamclark52 on Dec 20, 2020 14:37:27 GMT -5
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 20, 2020 14:52:52 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Droid or not, slowly squeezing the life out of something when it would be easier and more merciful to just strike it down is a total Vader move. Favreau and Filoni don't just do stuff arbitrarily, and it's definitely not in line with the shining white knight sequel detractors portrayed Luke as.
Besides, in Star Wars droids are considered sentient beings, even ones programmed to be relentless murderbots. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}There was a video (maybe on Star Wars Theory?), that brought out other Jedi have used similar powers on droids, including Mace Windu and Anakin using force crush in the original Clone Wars movie. It's a grey area since its a droid. {Spoiler}Sure, but pointing out a guy who openly used Dark Side techniques and another who became a Sith Lord isn't exactly a compelling argument for the myth of Saint Luke, the blue-eyed boy scout who would never make a terrible momentary mistake.
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Dec 20, 2020 14:54:52 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}There was a video (maybe on Star Wars Theory?), that brought out other Jedi have used similar powers on droids, including Mace Windu and Anakin using force crush in the original Clone Wars movie. It's a grey area since its a droid. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Sure, but pointing out a guy who openly used Dark Side techniques and another who became a Sith Lord isn't exactly a compelling argument for the myth of Saint Luke, the blue-eyed boy scout who would never make a terrible momentary mistake. What movies have you been watching for the last 40 years?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 20, 2020 15:05:42 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Sure, but pointing out a guy who openly used Dark Side techniques and another who became a Sith Lord isn't exactly a compelling argument for the myth of Saint Luke, the blue-eyed boy scout who would never make a terrible momentary mistake. What movies have you been watching for the last 40 years? The ones that show Luke isn't flawless and capable of having a momentary lapse in judgment when confronted by the possibility his nephew is the personification of evil. What ones have the people arguing against it been watching?
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Post by adamclark52 on Dec 20, 2020 15:08:52 GMT -5
I can’t remember if Droid Crush was a dark side or a light side power in Knights of the Old Republic?
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Post by "Trickster Dogg" James Jesse on Dec 20, 2020 15:21:33 GMT -5
{Spoiler}{SPOILER: CLICK TO SHOW}So like Luke at the end of TLJ, at some point Favreau and Filoni will present a hollow simulacrum of Star Wars' imagined past in order to deceive and distract jaded experts of the Star Wars universe. Some might say they've already done so!
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