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Post by joeiscool on Oct 16, 2018 18:54:16 GMT -5
WWE stock is at $84.04 today. They were over $85.00 a share yesterday, so there's been a bit of a plunge. stocks are falling across the bored
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Post by Kalmia on Oct 16, 2018 19:17:26 GMT -5
Yeah, I think some people are confusing the Saudi Arabian shows with regular house shows. This isn't the WWE putting on their own show in a foreign country, solely for the WWE fans there (and to make some money out of them, obviously.) This is the WWE taking money from the Saudi Arabian government in order to promote the country and make it look good. The fans in Saudi Arabia are not the focus here, at all. If you're taking money from a country's government and you're taking part in propaganda to promote it, then that's a completely different ball game to just doing a show there.
I don't think anyone here is criticising the WWE fans in Saudi Arabia or saying that they don't deserve a show. It's just the involvement of the KSA government, considering recent (and not so recent) events that makes it all stink.
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Post by Starshine on Oct 16, 2018 19:39:39 GMT -5
WWE stock is at $84.04 today. They were over $85.00 a share yesterday, so there's been a bit of a plunge. stocks are falling across the bored Oh, so what about the excited then? Yes, I'm an ass.
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Post by joeiscool on Oct 16, 2018 19:51:56 GMT -5
stocks are falling across the bored Oh, so what about the excited then? Yes, I'm an ass. well played
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Post by Perd on Oct 16, 2018 19:55:48 GMT -5
Even by WWE’s standards, the World Cup is halfassed.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 20:18:35 GMT -5
Even by WWE’s standards, the World Cup is halfassed. WWE: ohh, I was using my whole ass.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 20:22:43 GMT -5
UFC's parent company pulls out of a 400 million dollar deal
Credit to BloodyElbow.com
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 16, 2018 20:36:16 GMT -5
I used to think this was going to be a much bigger deal than I think it's going to be now.
I got caught up in the whole "OMG, JOHN OLIVER!!!" thing.
But now I'm starting to think that a lot of WWE's fans, especially the ones over 35, might not care as much about KSA drama as much as a lot of people on social media might like them to.
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Post by freeze Austin on Oct 16, 2018 20:43:32 GMT -5
So yeah, I've just came to the conclusion that WWE is no longer a company I can ethically support through my fandom, viewership, and merch dollars (as admittedly limited as they've been recently-- 2 t-shirt purchases and maybe 20 watch episodes of Smackdown total this year) as long as they continue to have a relationship with a country that forces theocratic oppression on its own citizenry and behaves lawlessly in pretty much all of their international interactions, and also as long as the matriarch of the family/company works directly with the government in my own country who, IMO, appears to be at best a willing participant in the coordinated misinformation campaign re:the Khashoggi dismembering "disappearance".
It's been real, y'all. Be well.
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Post by lionheart21 on Oct 16, 2018 20:49:20 GMT -5
So yeah, I've just came to the conclusion that WWE is no longer a company I can ethically support through my fandom, viewership, and merch dollars (as admittedly limited as they've been recently-- 2 t-shirt purchases and maybe 20 watch episodes of Smackdown total this year) as long as they continue to have a relationship with a country that forces theocratic oppression on its own citizenry and behaves lawlessly in pretty much all of their international interactions, and also as long as the matriarch of the family/company works directly with the government in my own country who, IMO, appears to be at best a willing participant in the coordinated misinformation campaign re:the Khashoggi dismembering "disappearance". It's been real, y'all. Be well. Honestly, I can't blame you.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 16, 2018 20:57:31 GMT -5
In an offensive but not as much note, all the winners of the "World" Cup first round are Americans.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 16, 2018 21:02:27 GMT -5
In an offensive but not as much note, all the winners of the "World" Cup first round are Americans. Somehow that's like the 10th least problematic thing on this show, now.
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Post by Perd on Oct 16, 2018 21:03:41 GMT -5
The John Oliver stuff and the articles are all well and good. But the only thing that will get this show cancelled, is something that effects their bottom line. Something that could potentially cost them more money than they stand to gain from this deal. And that’s probably not going to happen:
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 21:09:43 GMT -5
The John Oliver stuff and the articles are all well and good. But the only thing that will get this show cancelled, is something that effects their bottom line. Something that could potentially cost them more money than they stand to gain from this deal. And that’s probably not going to happen: Considering the POTUS and noted McMahon friend seems to be all in on the ridiculous “rogue attackers” theory despite at least one of the alleged murderers being a bodyguard for the Crown Prince the show will go on, until eventually something else will take its place in the news cycle. going to be really weird for everyone to have to meet with the Crown Prince and royals again. How awkward will that be?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2018 21:14:33 GMT -5
So yeah, I've just came to the conclusion that WWE is no longer a company I can ethically support through my fandom, viewership, and merch dollars (as admittedly limited as they've been recently-- 2 t-shirt purchases and maybe 20 watch episodes of Smackdown total this year) as long as they continue to have a relationship with a country that forces theocratic oppression on its own citizenry and behaves lawlessly in pretty much all of their international interactions, and also as long as the matriarch of the family/company works directly with the government in my own country who, IMO, appears to be at best a willing participant in the coordinated misinformation campaign re:the Khashoggi dismembering "disappearance". It's been real, y'all. Be well. I don't blame you one bit for bailing. You do what your conscience tells you.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 16, 2018 21:16:48 GMT -5
The John Oliver stuff and the articles are all well and good. But the only thing that will get this show cancelled, is something that effects their bottom line. Something that could potentially cost them more money than they stand to gain from this deal. And that’s probably not going to happen: Good luck finding a way to cost Vince more money than a "I just breached my contract under Saudi Law" lawsuit would.
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Post by Starshine on Oct 16, 2018 21:26:07 GMT -5
The John Oliver stuff and the articles are all well and good. But the only thing that will get this show cancelled, is something that effects their bottom line. Something that could potentially cost them more money than they stand to gain from this deal. And that’s probably not going to happen: Problem is I think we're at a point where for WWE, SA is the bottom line. I honestly believe WWE is compromised right now. Even looking past this Khasoggi story, I don't suspect this deal is entirely on the level. Wouldn't be at all surprised if there's some money laundering going on in the background.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 16, 2018 21:28:03 GMT -5
The John Oliver stuff and the articles are all well and good. But the only thing that will get this show cancelled, is something that effects their bottom line. Something that could potentially cost them more money than they stand to gain from this deal. And that’s probably not going to happen: Problem is I think we're at a point where for WWE, SA is the bottom line. I honestly believe WWE is compromised right now. Even looking past this Khasoggi story, I don't suspect this deal is entirely on the level. Wouldn't be at all surprised if there's some money laundering going on in the background. As much as we might want to believe that Vince is the ultimate in Stupid Evil, I don't think he's that Stupid.
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Post by Starshine on Oct 16, 2018 21:33:25 GMT -5
Problem is I think we're at a point where for WWE, SA is the bottom line. I honestly believe WWE is compromised right now. Even looking past this Khasoggi story, I don't suspect this deal is entirely on the level. Wouldn't be at all surprised if there's some money laundering going on in the background. As much as we might want to believe that Vince is the ultimate in Stupid Evil, I don't think he's that Stupid. Look... there's a certain guy who looks very much like he's been doing this for years. He's friends with Vince. I don't put anything past their ilk.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Oct 16, 2018 21:35:57 GMT -5
As much as we might want to believe that Vince is the ultimate in Stupid Evil, I don't think he's that Stupid. Look... there's a certain guy who looks very much like he's been doing this for years. He's friends with Vince. I don't put anything past their ilk. Nope. Not going to give an explicit response to that. I know that the "No Politics" rule has a Carte Blanche exception to attack him and his side, but I'm still not going there.
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