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Post by MiLB Fan on Oct 18, 2018 7:40:21 GMT -5
Gonna say I hope them not mentioning Saudia Arabia recently lends credence to them trying to find another location. But not gonna hold my breath. Unfortunately I don’t think that’s going to happen since tickets are scheduled to go on sale tomorrow. WWE may not be mentioning Saudi Arabia on TV, but the event page does. I suppose plans could still change but like you said, they probably won’t.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 18, 2018 8:06:39 GMT -5
I'm old. I remember Artists United Against Apartheid back in '85. Compared to this situation with Saudi Arabia, protesting the loopholes the South African government exploited to get around trade sanctions over apartheid would have been a walk in the park. It's not only careers at stake, but possibly lives.
Dollars to donuts, the venue will also be the talent's accommodations - they'll sleep there, eat there, whatever. Nobody will allowed to leave the venue and the backstage area will be tighter for security than Fort Knox - there should be no VIP Experiences offered with admission: no PR junkets, nothing outside the venue's public areas. There'll be no Internet access available to anyone at the event. This is all speculation, but the safety of the talent and crew must come first, and these would be the steps WWE needs to take in order to ensure that safety. If anything happens to anyone associated with WWE during or surrounding that event, I can only imagine the backlash against WWE. Vince will long for the days when he had the Harts suing him.
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Post by corndog on Oct 18, 2018 9:28:02 GMT -5
Between the Saudi money and television contracts, they could do Raw in empty arenas with no viewers and it wouldn't matter. That is why I seriously don't think anything is getting better and actually it's going to get worse. As long as the WWE has these incomes coming in, the fans are completely meaningless. Sure they won't get renewed at these rates, but it doesn't matter, none of the McMahon family will ever have to work and worry about money ever again. WWE is living on borrowed time and climates so in their favour that they have leverage even in the face of these declining numbers. WWE is coasting by on luck and it's not going to last forever, but we have at least five more years of them being able to do whatever the hell they damn well please. If it craters, the McMahons walk away loaded, it's just all the wrestlers they're paying who get burned. My hope is just that wrestling outside of the WWE has at the very least maintained where it is at right now, if not grow considerably. As far as the wrestlers themselves, by then most of the top talent could easily retire and the rest of them could move to other organizations. With all of the money coming in, the talent should be able to make quite a bit of money right now, much more than anywhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 9:38:14 GMT -5
Should all US companies pull out of Saudi entirely, all trade with the US be suspended, and any USA shows or products be demanded to be returned to the US, until womens rights are as strong there as the USA, or the Saudi journalist case is fully expunged? I don't think such a war like manoeuvre is appropriate, but action does need to be taken. It's just not gonna happen overnight Here is the list of companies that are in bed with the KSA: the-saudi.net/business-center/links-usa.htmThis includes Pepsi. What would CM Punk do? Personally, I don't think he would give a f***
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Oct 18, 2018 11:10:28 GMT -5
WWE Stock Watch - $82.70 (NYSE: WWE)
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Post by Fade on Oct 18, 2018 12:23:38 GMT -5
I'm old. I remember Artists United Against Apartheid back in '85. Compared to this situation with Saudi Arabia, protesting the loopholes the South African government exploited to get around trade sanctions over apartheid would have been a walk in the park. It's not only careers at stake, but possibly lives. Dollars to donuts, the venue will also be the talent's accommodations - they'll sleep there, eat there, whatever. Nobody will allowed to leave the venue and the backstage area will be tighter for security than Fort Knox - there should be no VIP Experiences offered with admission: no PR junkets, nothing outside the venue's public areas. There'll be no Internet access available to anyone at the event. This is all speculation, but the safety of the talent and crew must come first, and these would be the steps WWE needs to take in order to ensure that safety. If anything happens to anyone associated with WWE during or surrounding that event, I can only imagine the backlash against WWE. Vince will long for the days when he had the Harts suing him. Monsters.
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Post by stevec484 on Oct 18, 2018 16:27:07 GMT -5
so this show will air on a Friday morning in the USA?
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Post by Spider2024 on Oct 18, 2018 16:28:19 GMT -5
so this show will air on a Friday morning in the USA? Friday Noon on the East Coast, morning in the other 3 zones.
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Post by nisidhe on Oct 18, 2018 18:51:52 GMT -5
There'll be no Internet access available to anyone at the event. Monsters. It would be funny, but for the fact that WWE wouldn't want anybody giving the Saudi government any reason to suddenly waltz into the backstage area and start arresting people. What the guys can't see online while they're there, they can't comment on snarkily or angrily while there. There'll likely (I hope!) be a lot of phone camera memory-wiping shortly before the trip. Mark my words, WWE will be in and out of there within a day if they can help it. I wouldn't be surprised if they chartered a flight over there and back, just to keep the boys in one place and accounted for.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 18, 2018 19:01:40 GMT -5
It would be funny, but for the fact that WWE wouldn't want anybody giving the Saudi government any reason to suddenly waltz into the backstage area and start arresting people. What the guys can't see online while they're there, they can't comment on snarkily or angrily while there. There'll likely (I hope!) be a lot of phone camera memory-wiping shortly before the trip. Mark my words, WWE will be in and out of there within a day if they can help it. I wouldn't be surprised if they chartered a flight over there and back, just to keep the boys in one place and accounted for. I think it needs to be the opposite; nobody should be in some kind of unaccounted for radio silence the whole time. Nobody should be poking around news sites, certainly, but take away communication and people being able to message their families, and that trip is going to get even more tense and miserable for everybody involved.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 19:44:42 GMT -5
It would be funny, but for the fact that WWE wouldn't want anybody giving the Saudi government any reason to suddenly waltz into the backstage area and start arresting people. What the guys can't see online while they're there, they can't comment on snarkily or angrily while there. There'll likely (I hope!) be a lot of phone camera memory-wiping shortly before the trip. Mark my words, WWE will be in and out of there within a day if they can help it. I wouldn't be surprised if they chartered a flight over there and back, just to keep the boys in one place and accounted for. I doubt it, the Royal Family has more money than god and they wined and dined everyone last time. Vince is going to be all over hanging with those dudes and their money again. None of it will make TV this time(if they’re smart), but Vince is going to hang with anyone important in search of some weird validation that he matters.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 18, 2018 20:17:57 GMT -5
After Sam Roberts spoke his mind, looks like WWE won't be welcoming him back anytime soon.
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You are probably secretly under WWE payroll, so much for that now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2018 20:18:55 GMT -5
After Sam Roberts spoke his mind, looks like WWE won't be welcoming him back anytime soon. [/img] You are probably secretly under WWE payroll, so much for that now.[/quote] It is for the best imo.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 18, 2018 20:21:25 GMT -5
After Sam Roberts spoke his mind, looks like WWE won't be welcoming him back anytime soon. [/img] You are probably secretly under WWE payroll, so much for that now.[/quote] It is for the best imo. [/quote] I think he's the first actual person affiliated with WWE TV to say no to Saudi Arabia on the record, so he probably will be in fact, future endeavoured.
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Oct 18, 2018 20:38:08 GMT -5
Sam Roberts is great and this just reinforces my love for him. He's a fantastic interviewer and seems like a nice guy, others don't like him but whatever.
Peter Rosenberg will probably tweet that the WWE fans killed the journalist
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Post by Savage Gambino on Oct 18, 2018 22:27:36 GMT -5
It would be funny, but for the fact that WWE wouldn't want anybody giving the Saudi government any reason to suddenly waltz into the backstage area and start arresting people. What the guys can't see online while they're there, they can't comment on snarkily or angrily while there. There'll likely (I hope!) be a lot of phone camera memory-wiping shortly before the trip. Mark my words, WWE will be in and out of there within a day if they can help it. I wouldn't be surprised if they chartered a flight over there and back, just to keep the boys in one place and accounted for. I think it needs to be the opposite; nobody should be in some kind of unaccounted for radio silence the whole time. Nobody should be poking around news sites, certainly, but take away communication and people being able to message their families, and that trip is going to get even more tense and miserable for everybody involved. Yeah, if I was going to a country where an American journalist was just butchered, the last thing I would want is no way to contact the outside world.
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Post by chazraps on Oct 18, 2018 22:49:34 GMT -5
The Saudi government copped to killing an American resident with a bonesaw. The Saudi government is paying WWE directly to promote how great they are. Still wrapping my head around it. Also, Taker's involvement really makes this shirt look even worse as it seems he'll "Respect the flag," but not the lives of actual American residents:
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Oct 19, 2018 2:43:37 GMT -5
The Saudi government copped to killing an American resident with a bonesaw. The Saudi government is paying WWE directly to promote how great they are. Still wrapping my head around it. Also, Taker's involvement really makes this shirt look even worse as it seems he'll "Respect the flag," but not the lives of actual American residents: Undertaker respects money and himself. No one in his shoes can honestly respect America and participate in this farce. What is Vince going to if he won't go? Fire him? He's basically retired and works twice a year. Honestly, I just want one f***ing wrestler to do the right thing. I don't care if it's Mojo Rawley or John Cena. Just someone show me that wrestling isn't all scumbags.
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Post by MAGGLE on Oct 19, 2018 2:44:11 GMT -5
After Sam Roberts spoke his mind, looks like WWE won't be welcoming him back anytime soon. I was wondering why all the political correctness was gone this week in all of his interviews. He did one with Bill Burr and he was speaking completely different then he usually would. Well looks like it was WWE that was in his head all along. I mean his co star is Jim Norton, so it never made sense to me why Sam is always so nice with no criticism for anything. (Which kinda made him a dull person to have a conversation with on the show) Edit: I have been on this board for 9 years now and the quoting is horrible. I am just pressing a button to quote and it gives me this...
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Oct 19, 2018 4:07:26 GMT -5
After Sam Roberts spoke his mind, looks like WWE won't be welcoming him back anytime soon. I was wondering why all the political correctness was gone this week in all of his interviews. He did one with Bill Burr and he was speaking completely different then he usually would. Well looks like it was WWE that was in his head all along. I mean his co star is Jim Norton, so it never made sense to me why Sam is always so nice with no criticism for anything. (Which kinda made him a dull person to have a conversation with on the show) Edit: I have been on this board for 9 years now and the quoting is horrible. I am just pressing a button to quote and it gives me this... The original Quote was missing a close quote code causing all further quotes to also be messed up. It should be fixed for anyone quoting this post...
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