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Post by KofiMania on Oct 19, 2018 15:46:50 GMT -5
To be fair, they haven’t aired any propaganda since this story broke and it remains to be seen if they will air any during Crown Jewel. I can see them avoiding that for this show, before seeing how the climate is come next April’s show. A lot of somethings in that deal are being kept from shareholders and I imagine that content specification would be something to keep quiet about. And if the most generous you can be for them is "They probably won't air any explicit propaganda this time and wait to see if people are still up in arms about the murderous regime next time" then no that's still reprehensible and still why WWE needs to catch all the hell for this. Agree to disagree.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 19, 2018 15:47:57 GMT -5
A lot of somethings in that deal are being kept from shareholders and I imagine that content specification would be something to keep quiet about. And if the most generous you can be for them is "They probably won't air any explicit propaganda this time and wait to see if people are still up in arms about the murderous regime next time" then no that's still reprehensible and still why WWE needs to catch all the hell for this. Agree to disagree. Shouldn't have to agree to disagree about basic human rights and not glorifying the people who abuse them.
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Post by Rocky Raccoon on Oct 19, 2018 16:40:22 GMT -5
To be fair, they haven’t aired any propaganda since this story broke and it remains to be seen if they will air any during Crown Jewel. I can see them avoiding that for this show, before seeing how the climate is come next April’s show. I hate to think of it this way, but if they are specifically ordered to air propaganda while on Saudi ground and under the watchful eye of the Saudi government, do you think they're going to say no?
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 19, 2018 16:51:26 GMT -5
If WWE really wants to show they don't approve of what's going on, then donate all the money their getting from Saudi Arabia to charity organizations. Red Cross, Wounded Warriors Program, St. Jude, donate every penny of the billions their getting from this regime to organizations who need it far more. Of course, Vince won't part with a single dime. If he really wanted to make a point of it, he could always donate even a portion of their deal to the Committee To Protect Journalists, a nonprofit that advocates both a free worldwide press and looks to protect journalists' safety in many nations. But you're right, Vince won't cut any checks, and especially to them, since the Saudis would naturally see this as a great offense. F***, everything is just terrible right now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 16:52:33 GMT -5
Yeah that's the crux of this issue; it's not just that WWE is doing business in the country or with its royal family paying them, it's that they are happily airing propaganda and accepting the role as unofficial spokesperson for this regime as they cover up their crimes and talk up how progressive they are. It's sickening and it's a whole step beyond just doing business in there. The deal UFC pulled out of is similar and even involved giving the Saudis a small stake in the company, so their pull away is similarly driven by an intention to not want to do direcct business with them and allow them to do their thing. It's a whole different world WWE is in right now and it's not as simple as just 'Here's companies that sell their products in this country'. To be fair, they haven’t aired any propaganda since this story broke and it remains to be seen if they will air any during Crown Jewel. I can see them avoiding that for this show, before seeing how the climate is come next April’s show. I'm not gonna beat them up for something they haven't done yet, but they've aired the propaganda videos the last time they were there so it's impossible to give them the benefit of the doubt. I really doubt that they came up with those things on their own volition the first time they aired them. I have to believe that they're part of the deal. It would definitely be an improvement if they just have a plain wrestling show and they don't even make reference to the country other than to say that they're in it, but I wouldn't be surprised if things don't play out that way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 17:03:09 GMT -5
Well the Saudis officially confirmed the journalists death
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Oct 19, 2018 17:12:30 GMT -5
Well the Saudis officially confirmed the journalists death Said it once in this thread, I’ll say it again; Hoo Boy... Edit: Wait, they’re saying it was because of a fight?! 16 men against a 60 year old journalist?! Get the f*** out of here, man. Edit Part Two: 16 men and a journalist all getting into a fight with one of them having a BONESAW?! Come on, man...
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Oct 19, 2018 17:43:45 GMT -5
WWE will be reporting its third quarter earnings next Thursday and, well... investors will surely have a lot of questions regarding the KSA deal.
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 19, 2018 18:03:30 GMT -5
WWE will be reporting its third quarter earnings next Thursday and, well... investors will surely have a lot of questions regarding the KSA deal. I'm almost willing to bet they will start the call off by saying they cannot field any questions on the KSA deal. And they're saying he died in a "fight"? Okay, guys. I can't wait for WWE to produce a movie about Khashoggi's life starring Roman Reigns fighting all of these guys off before being felled by a single bullet to the heart.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Oct 19, 2018 18:06:46 GMT -5
Oh yikes yikes yikes yikes yikes.
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Post by Perd on Oct 19, 2018 18:16:40 GMT -5
The calls will all be Bruce Prichard doing terrible voices.
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Post by MiLB Fan on Oct 19, 2018 18:30:54 GMT -5
And once again, the event page on WWE’s website is missing a location. For comparison, here’s Evolution: Of course I understand why.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 18:44:18 GMT -5
The Event page change was made today. I can confirm it was there yesterday.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 19, 2018 18:54:44 GMT -5
Besides Sam Roberts, has ANYONE within the WWE Universe, superstar, alumni, office person, EXECUTIVE said they should openly NOT GO to Saudi Arabia?
The silence is deafening.
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Post by mrtuesday on Oct 19, 2018 19:44:32 GMT -5
Besides Sam Roberts, has ANYONE within the WWE Universe, superstar, alumni, office person, EXECUTIVE said they should openly NOT GO to Saudi Arabia? The silence is deafening. They've all taken the money. Like Ted DiBiase said all those years ago, "Everybody has a price".
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2018 19:52:18 GMT -5
Besides Sam Roberts, has ANYONE within the WWE Universe, superstar, alumni, office person, EXECUTIVE said they should openly NOT GO to Saudi Arabia? The silence is deafening. They've all taken the money. Like Ted DiBiase said all those years ago, "Everybody has a price". I would have expected Corey Graves to speak out on this, but instead he parroted Vince McMahon's thoughts. I guess we'll be seeing pics of him with alcohol in the near future.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Oct 19, 2018 20:08:36 GMT -5
Is this the most pages for an event before the actual event happens?
It could hit 50 to 75 pages before the show.
Anyone know?
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Post by TOK Is the Target Demo on Oct 19, 2018 20:26:53 GMT -5
Is this the most pages for an event before the actual event happens? It could hit 50 to 75 pages before the show. Anyone know? Just wait for Super Summerslam, coming this December from Caracas, Venezuela!
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Post by ben:friendship frog on Oct 19, 2018 20:43:57 GMT -5
I really don't think it's fair to expect Corey Graves, Pete Dunne, Seth Rollins or whoever to stand up to this. In an ideal world, great, but in the real world its entirely upto the billion dollar company.
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Post by KofiMania on Oct 19, 2018 20:44:17 GMT -5
Shouldn't have to agree to disagree about basic human rights and not glorifying the people who abuse them. Yeah sorry, not what I said at all.
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