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Post by zrowsdower on Oct 14, 2018 17:21:08 GMT -5
So I had recently saw the movie poster for the first Elm Street and thought it looked awesome when I realized I had never watched that many of the movies in the series or if I have I don't remember. Anyway, I bought the first four and am currently watching the second one. The thing is that I am really confused how his powers work. I mean I get the whole he feeds on fear thing, but there are certain things that don't really make sense. And then there are some scenes where any kind of creepiness or scary moments kind of gets diluted from odd reactions from the actors. Sorry, I know I'm probably thinking way too deep about some slasher movies from the 80's.
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Post by Paul on Oct 14, 2018 17:26:38 GMT -5
They don't make sense because they were written by different writers, and some of them had multiple re-writes, etc. Part 2 especially changes some of the "rules" set up by the first movie.
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Post by Juice on Oct 14, 2018 17:51:58 GMT -5
4 is my absolute favorite in the franchise.and two is my least. It os kind of the red headed step child. Of the series. His powers are simple. He has complete control over everything in dream land. So when he posses jessie he has complete subtle control in real world to. But when he is pulled out he is normal in all the other films. Two was just written strangely. I recommend never sleep again documentary its like 8 hours.
This is my all time favorite horror franchise.
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 14, 2018 17:56:45 GMT -5
They don't make sense because they were written by different writers, and some of them had multiple re-writes, etc. Part 2 especially changes some of the "rules" set up by the first movie. Yeah, 2 is almost like Halloween 3 where it seems like it's a completely different movie from the original, although I really haven't watched too much of it as much as I have the other movies. It has the flimsiest of connections with NOES compared to the other movies thanks to Nancy not being in this, and Freddy has no real personal vendetta in it (which is weird because it's subtitled "Freddy's Revenge").
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Post by Juice on Oct 14, 2018 17:57:35 GMT -5
Actually I won't spoil continuity, but they all do add more and more as it goes on. Watch all the way to freddy v jason for like the full evolution.
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Post by cabbageboy on Oct 14, 2018 18:08:35 GMT -5
Halloween 3 wouldn't be so disliked if it had just been a solo horror movie called Season of the Witch and not marketed as a Halloween movie. It's brilliant compared to the disaster known as Nightmare on Elm Street 2. That is one of the worst horror movies of the 1980s.
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Post by Paul on Oct 14, 2018 18:08:37 GMT -5
Actually I won't spoil continuity, but they all do add more and more as it goes on. Watch all the way to freddy v jason for like the full evolution. Yeah, they "add more and more" because they were written by people who often didn't particularly care about the previous movies. If you watch ANOES 1 - 6 all in a row, they take so many sharp left turns that you end up losing total track of when anything is supposed to be taking place.
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Post by Juice on Oct 14, 2018 18:31:08 GMT -5
Actually I won't spoil continuity, but they all do add more and more as it goes on. Watch all the way to freddy v jason for like the full evolution. Yeah, they "add more and more" because they were written by people who often didn't particularly care about the previous movies. If you watch ANOES 1 - 6 all in a row, they take so many sharp left turns that you end up losing total track of when anything is supposed to be taking place. Bob Shea certainly cared more about franchise dollars than continuity, but lets not pretend that isn't an all encompassing issue between all of the big franchises. Freddy is the moat fleshed out of any of them in this regard. Each film adds more fantasy and sillyness as well as backatory because it made an endearing villain. He went from child killer to son of a nun raped by evil. It all adds to the dream powers etc. It's not a hard right turn everywhere because it all makes up the wizard behind oz. Freddy is a rock star and every change to his character adds that mystique because he is a fantastical being. It's not like adding psychics and satanic cults to Halloween or having Jasons soul jump from human to human.
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Post by sfvega on Oct 14, 2018 18:33:49 GMT -5
I thought the plural was Nightmares on Elm Street?
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Oct 14, 2018 18:37:10 GMT -5
One year I watched all 9 of the ELM STREET flicks with a buddy of mine across two days back-to-back. Had a great time. Yes, even the remake.
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Post by Juice on Oct 14, 2018 18:38:32 GMT -5
One year I watched all 9 of the ELM STREET flicks with a buddy of mine across two days back-to-back. Had a great time. Yes, even the remake. I love the remake
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Post by Gremlin on Oct 14, 2018 19:35:08 GMT -5
Dream Warriors is my favorite. Popcorn munching fun.
Dokken, baby!
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Post by zrowsdower on Oct 14, 2018 19:58:46 GMT -5
I'm going to watch The third one next. The poster alone has got me excited for this one. I'm hoping it will be better than the second one.
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Post by Juice on Oct 14, 2018 20:11:53 GMT -5
The 2nd is the least good. 3 picks up and gets to,adding more to mythos. 4 is direct sequel to it sharing characters and themes.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 20:12:17 GMT -5
One year I watched all 9 of the ELM STREET flicks with a buddy of mine across two days back-to-back. Had a great time. Yes, even the remake. I love the remake It's just The Ring with Freddy in it.
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Post by Limity (BLM) on Oct 14, 2018 20:17:23 GMT -5
It's just The Ring with Freddy in it. Only it sucks way more than The Ring. My personal favorite will always be New Nightmare.
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Post by Juice on Oct 14, 2018 20:21:04 GMT -5
It was an interesting and original take. The plot of them possibly making up being molested and getting an innocent man killed was a really good take on it. The "stale acting" of the cast felt purposeful to me. Like Derry/IT the town is suffering from the colorful secret. The mannerisms JEH used make Fresdy his own. The references to the films that came before were present and great. A very underrated movie. It and Friday the 13th ahould have started new franchises.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Oct 14, 2018 20:37:03 GMT -5
I love this series! But I'll admit 2 is an absolute mess.
Also, young Bob Schlapowitz had a massive crush on Heather Langenkamp.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 20:43:09 GMT -5
It was an interesting and original take. The plot of them possibly making up being molested and getting an innocent man killed was a really good take on it. The "stale acting" of the cast felt purposeful to me. Like Derry/IT the town is suffering from the colorful secret. The mannerisms JEH used make Fresdy his own. The references to the films that came before were present and great. A very underrated movie. It and Friday the 13th ahould have started new franchises. That idea wasn't really original for long time franchise fans. It's been explored and covered in the comic adaptations (and was originally what they wanted to do back when they made the movies but weren't allowed to so they only implied it). The entire structure of the movie is the exact same as The Ring and every movie like the Ring. "Oh no a monster/ghost/demon is killing people in some weirdly unique way. We need to solve the mystery behind it to prove they are really just misunderstood, but oh no it's actually just evil as shit and comes to kill us after we do that anyway." The special effects looked like utter shit for when it was made, some instances looking somehow way worse than the original movie which should not have even been possible. The references to the original were crammed in with a hamfisted style to just try and make sure they made the trailers it seemed. Friday the 13th was so bad I've always just called it the movie where Jason protects a crop of weed because nothing he does makes any sense (much like just about every other Friday the 13th after the second one anyway).
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Post by Juice on Oct 14, 2018 23:01:36 GMT -5
It was an interesting and original take. The plot of them possibly making up being molested and getting an innocent man killed was a really good take on it. The "stale acting" of the cast felt purposeful to me. Like Derry/IT the town is suffering from the colorful secret. The mannerisms JEH used make Fresdy his own. The references to the films that came before were present and great. A very underrated movie. It and Friday the 13th ahould have started new franchises. That idea wasn't really original for long time franchise fans. It's been explored and covered in the comic adaptations (and was originally what they wanted to do back when they made the movies but weren't allowed to so they only implied it). The entire structure of the movie is the exact same as The Ring and every movie like the Ring. "Oh no a monster/ghost/demon is killing people in some weirdly unique way. We need to solve the mystery behind it to prove they are really just misunderstood, but oh no it's actually just evil as shit and comes to kill us after we do that anyway." The special effects looked like utter shit for when it was made, some instances looking somehow way worse than the original movie which should not have even been possible. The references to the original were crammed in with a hamfisted style to just try and make sure they made the trailers it seemed. Friday the 13th was so bad I've always just called it the movie where Jason protects a crop of weed because nothing he does makes any sense (much like just about every other Friday the 13th after the second one anyway). We disagree on all points
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