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Post by The Heartbreak TWERK on Mar 16, 2019 3:58:51 GMT -5
Ezra Miller wants to do a dark Flash movie?
Fire him and publicly announce he's being fired for that reason.
Anyone who does dumb shit in the DC Film unit should be shamed out of Hollywood.
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Post by Schizo on Mar 16, 2019 4:01:16 GMT -5
Not only do I not care to see a DARKER TONE Flash movie, I don't care to see a solo Flash movie staring Ezra Miller as his Peter Parker Shitck in JL just didn't do it for me as I found him pretty annoying. Plus Grant Gustin is a WAY better Barry Allen then Miller was.
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Post by chrom on Mar 16, 2019 5:51:16 GMT -5
Because when I think of dark and gritty I think of The Flash.
Do the people who work for DC have a fetish or something?
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Mar 16, 2019 8:08:25 GMT -5
I'll say this, the Snyder movies weren't necessarily bad because they were dark. They were bad because they were poorly written and produced. I'm sure with the right talent you could write an excellent dark Flash movie. I just don't think the public has a taste for dark superhero movies right now and it'll be a hard sell to audiences. As for Morrison, while I know he does dark, I associate him more with meta and surreal superhero stories, with heavy esoteric overtones. Basically really weird stuff. That's not a really good fit for The Flash, either light-hearted or dark, in the slightest. the weird thing is that Morrison by all accounts despises stories that are dark just for the sake of being dark. if Ezra Miller wanted help writing a pointless grimderp take on the Flash, Grant Morrison is one of the last people he should have asked for help lol.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 16, 2019 8:32:33 GMT -5
If they are dropping all continuity from earlier films, then drop Ezra Miller. He’s never quite felt right in the role, and now that you aren’t chasing the DCEU you can take your time and properly develop a big screen flash.
Let’s move on from whatever the f*** that costume was. Not that Season 5 Flash suit is much better. That’s opposite problem where making it too comic accurate made it look worse.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Mar 16, 2019 9:24:01 GMT -5
I'll say this, the Snyder movies weren't necessarily bad because they were dark. They were bad because they were poorly written and produced. I'm sure with the right talent you could write an excellent dark Flash movie. I just don't think the public has a taste for dark superhero movies right now and it'll be a hard sell to audiences. As for Morrison, while I know he does dark, I associate him more with meta and surreal superhero stories, with heavy esoteric overtones. Basically really weird stuff. That's not a really good fit for The Flash, either light-hearted or dark, in the slightest. Morrison is a fantastic comics writer, but I feel like he's far too 'inside baseball' for your regular movie-goer.
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Post by Celexa Bliss on Mar 16, 2019 11:19:20 GMT -5
At one point I'd have said do flashpoint to get rid of the Synder stank. Now with Wonder Woman, Aqua Man, and Shazam all possibly course correcting the DCEU I'd say we all just forgot the first three films (MoS, BvS, and JL) exist and Bats and Supes have not don the costumes yet. The word now is that the DCEU is dead and every movie from here on is standalone. Which I personally think is the best approach; Aquaman made huge money, Shazam looks like it's going to do the same, and Wonder Woman 1984 is basically ignoring the character's continuity as established in BvS so there's really no point in bothering to have a shared universe. Down the road, it would be real easy to go back to the shared universe concept. The problem with it originally was they were trying too hard to be like the MCU. But when they teased Avengers at the end of Iron Man and Hulk, nobody actually took it too seriously. Especially since there was nothing for two years after Hulk. But Marvel stayed the course and continued planting seeds and earned the audience's trust. But it took six movies and delivering on their promises to earn that trust. DC instead tried to get their payoff without earning it. The best thing to do is keep everything separate for the next five or six years, get a new Batman and Superman established and then try again with Justice League. Building up a serious threat would probably help.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Mar 16, 2019 11:59:49 GMT -5
The word now is that the DCEU is dead and every movie from here on is standalone. Which I personally think is the best approach; Aquaman made huge money, Shazam looks like it's going to do the same, and Wonder Woman 1984 is basically ignoring the character's continuity as established in BvS so there's really no point in bothering to have a shared universe. Yeah, I guess I'm holding out hope that they will meet again someday. There's money in these heroes meeting... but it needs someone talented to make it work (not Zack Synder). If they do another Justice League, I want Patty Jenkins at the helm.
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Mar 16, 2019 12:07:01 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 31, 2019 11:34:34 GMT -5
As I said in the DCEU thread saw a report that Erza is likely done and will be recast.
It is stated he wanted to make a Flashpoint movie still and include Gal and Mamoa in their roles from the comics.
But the WB's stance is still the Universe idea is dead.
Probably for the best because flashpoint is a pretty bad story and not really something you start a film series with.
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Post by Tenshigure on Mar 31, 2019 11:39:23 GMT -5
Probably for the best because flashpoint is a pretty bad story and not really something you start a film series with. Actually, I'd argue that Flashpoint is a good way to kill off the old DCEU for good. Whether I'd want Ezra being the one carrying the show over is an entirely different story...
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Mar 31, 2019 11:44:38 GMT -5
Probably for the best because flashpoint is a pretty bad story and not really something you start a film series with. Actually, I'd argue that Flashpoint is a good way to kill off the old DCEU for good. Whether I'd want Ezra being the one carrying the show over is an entirely different story... Well there is that which is more or less what people expected when the title was released but at this point it's better to just ignore everything Snyder did entirely. As much as you can before he starts claiming in his universe he's called the flash because he whips his junk out in front of old ladies and anyone that thinks that wouldn't happen is a moron.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 31, 2019 12:24:41 GMT -5
Actually, I'd argue that Flashpoint is a good way to kill off the old DCEU for good. Whether I'd want Ezra being the one carrying the show over is an entirely different story... Well there is that which is more or less what people expected when the title was released but at this point it's better to just ignore everything Snyder did entirely. As much as you can before he starts claiming in his universe he's called the flash because he whips his junk out in front of old ladies and anyone that thinks that wouldn't happen is a moron. I’d like to see Flashpoint, although really f***ing dumb to lead with that, just because if done well it would make it really easy to introduce a new Batman and Superman and possibly work their way back to a JL movie
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Post by darbus alan on Mar 31, 2019 12:43:31 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever seen Flashpoint done well. It wasn't great in the comics. It wasn't great on the TV show. And it'd probably be outright terrible in a movie.
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Post by H-Virus on Mar 31, 2019 13:40:53 GMT -5
You know, I made a comment several months ago before the DCEU collapsed that the whole thing was going to be carried on the shoulders of Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Shazam. I didn't realize when I said it that it was going to be because they were the only ones left!
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Post by xCompackx on Mar 31, 2019 14:54:40 GMT -5
Ezra Miller needs to be recast if he thinks a dark Flash is a good idea. Hell, give the role to Grant Gustin; dude’s killing it on The Flash and he should’ve had the role to begin with.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Mar 31, 2019 17:49:54 GMT -5
I hope they shelf Miller and stop with this weird abomination that is Barry Allen in name, but more Wally West in personality. There are multiple Flashes. Do one of them. Then worry about doing one of the other ones.
The mashing up of the Flashes feels like a symptom of the larger problem that had been plaguing the DCEU. Wanting their cake and eating it too. "We want Barry...but we also want Flash to act more like how most people associate him with, but that's Wally under the mask! Ah heck, just mix and match!"
It's a similar issue I've had with the live action Flash show, where there's times that that Barry even feels less like Barry and more like Wally.
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Post by Big DSR Energy on Mar 31, 2019 18:29:24 GMT -5
I don't think I've ever seen Flashpoint done well. It wasn't great in the comics. It wasn't great on the TV show. And it'd probably be outright terrible in a movie. They did do it as an animated, direct-to-DVD movie a few years back. I don't really remember much about it, though.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 31, 2019 19:57:44 GMT -5
I hope they shelf Miller and stop with this weird abomination that is Barry Allen in name, but more Wally West in personality. There are multiple Flashes. Do one of them. Then worry about doing one of the other ones. The mashing up of the Flashes feels like a symptom of the larger problem that had been plaguing the DCEU. Wanting their cake and eating it too. "We want Barry...but we also want Flash to act more like how most people associate him with, but that's Wally under the mask! Ah heck, just mix and match!" It's a similar issue I've had with the live action Flash show, where there's times that that Barry even feels less like Barry and more like Wally. I want a movie about the John Fox version of Flash damnit!
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Post by thechase on Aug 29, 2019 13:54:45 GMT -5
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