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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 1, 2023 1:40:40 GMT -5
Yeah...the point is you probably should have been dude. Erza's oen person crime spree that they basically got away with doesn't matter to WB For some reason... Also every site I've been to that deals with comics have polls and almost all of them have been really negative towards having any interest in this movie... |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 1, 2023 2:07:03 GMT -5
Erza's oen person crime spree that they basically got away with doesn't matter to WB For some reason... Ezra's crime spree matters less than the sunk cost combined with a string of box office disappointments and outright bombs. WB could have cancelled the movie and written off a $250 million investment. They might get some money back in doing so, but they'd still be taking a huge financial hit. Or they can release it, keep Miller off the press tour (which they seem to have done) and hope that it either makes a profit or – in the worst case scenario – loses less than the cost of writing it off in the worst-case scenario. Given the biggest box office bombs of all time never lost more than $150 million it was never likely WB would cancel it. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 1, 2023 4:52:26 GMT -5
Just as a heads up to anyone not aware, Ezra uses they / them pronouns.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Jun 2, 2023 5:50:52 GMT -5
Just saw Across the Spiderverse last night. Flash is f***ed, I fear.
Remember how Everything Everywhere All At Once preemptively took a certain amount of wind out of Doctor Strange 2's sails, with almost everyone drawing comparisons between the two movies? Those movies had a whole month between them. Flash comes out in two weeks.
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Post by thechase on Jun 2, 2023 6:00:56 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 2, 2023 13:58:27 GMT -5
The Suicide Squad is one of the few that I can think of that actually lead anywhere.. because they already knew Peacemaker was happening by the time it was released. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 2, 2023 16:30:07 GMT -5
Just saw Across the Spiderverse last night. Flash is f***ed, I fear. Remember how Everything Everywhere All At Once preemptively took a certain amount of wind out of Doctor Strange 2's sails, with almost everyone drawing comparisons between the two movies? Those movies had a whole month between them. Flash comes out in two weeks. Between how widely beloved it is and the early success, yeah, I'm guessing any money Flash could make is going to be severely hurt by Spider-Verse. |
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Post by Kalmia on Jun 2, 2023 20:17:01 GMT -5
The Suicide Squad is one of the few that I can think of that actually lead anywhere.. because they already knew Peacemaker was happening by the time it was released. Yeah, IIRC it was filmed during the early days of the Peacemaker filming and not during the shoot for Suicide Squad. Even DC couldn't screw that post-credits scene up. |
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Post by thechase on Jun 3, 2023 12:20:37 GMT -5
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 3, 2023 13:25:01 GMT -5
Ezra got a beer flavored ding dong or something? |
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Post by Kalmia on Jun 3, 2023 13:35:45 GMT -5
What blackmail material did Ezra manage to find that people are so willing to fight for them? Comic book movies are full of recasts. Whether it's the studio's choice or the actor moving on, audiences are fine with it.
I don't get it at all.
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jun 3, 2023 14:21:56 GMT -5
Ezra got a beer flavored ding dong or something? it may just be down to the bad optics of firing a Jewish, Non-Binary, Pansexual person who seemingly had a prolonged mental breakdown. Now religion & sexuality shouldn't play a part in Ezra being fired or not due to what went on in the last few years as they should have been removed from the role no matter the outcome of the film's success or failure post release due to any criminal acts committed before the release of the film or while they are under contract, the only aspect that should be taken into account on their behaviour is if they had a genuine mental breakdown that is certifiable by at least three expert psychologists and even then Ezra should be lucky to still be working on anything that isn't an indie movie. But you can see why WB are weighing up their options on how things fall if they were to remove Ezra from further big budget roles, basically firing an actor from a minority experiencing a mental health issue at a time when all eyes are on a lack of representation in their industry, wouldnt be a good look despite having all the reasons in the world to no longer work with Ezra going forward. (they may also not want to give any more ammo to the Snyderverse weirdo cult who glom onto any and every reason to beat WB over the head with until they get what they want, but that should be a low priority in this as they're going to do that anyway.) that said, the trailers make the film look good and I am tempted to see it in the cinema instead of waiting for it to hit streaming services/dvd-bluray, but the dceu has burned me too many times in this way. |
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Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jun 3, 2023 15:31:15 GMT -5
Ezra got a beer flavored ding dong or something? it may just be down to the bad optics of firing a Jewish, Non-Binary, Pansexual person who seemingly had a prolonged mental breakdown. Now religion & sexuality shouldn't play a part in Ezra being fired or not due to what went on in the last few years as they should have been removed from the role no matter the outcome of the film's success or failure post release due to any criminal acts committed before the release of the film or while they are under contract, the only aspect that should be taken into account on their behaviour is if they had a genuine mental breakdown that is certifiable by at least three expert psychologists and even then Ezra should be lucky to still be working on anything that isn't an indie movie. But you can see why WB are weighing up their options on how things fall if they were to remove Ezra from further big budget roles, basically firing an actor from a minority experiencing a mental health issue at a time when all eyes are on a lack of representation in their industry, wouldnt be a good look despite having all the reasons in the world to no longer work with Ezra going forward. (they may also not want to give any more ammo to the Snyderverse weirdo cult who glom onto any and every reason to beat WB over the head with until they get what they want, but that should be a low priority in this as they're going to do that anyway.) that said, the trailers make the film look good and I am tempted to see it in the cinema instead of waiting for it to hit streaming services/dvd-bluray, but the dceu has burned me too many times in this way. I mean I get what you're saying but boo f***ing hoo right? Just because someone is a sexual minority doesn't give them carte blanche to act like a degenerate. |
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Post by Zombie Mod on Jun 3, 2023 15:58:23 GMT -5
it may just be down to the bad optics of firing a Jewish, Non-Binary, Pansexual person who seemingly had a prolonged mental breakdown. Now religion & sexuality shouldn't play a part in Ezra being fired or not due to what went on in the last few years as they should have been removed from the role no matter the outcome of the film's success or failure post release due to any criminal acts committed before the release of the film or while they are under contract, the only aspect that should be taken into account on their behaviour is if they had a genuine mental breakdown that is certifiable by at least three expert psychologists and even then Ezra should be lucky to still be working on anything that isn't an indie movie. But you can see why WB are weighing up their options on how things fall if they were to remove Ezra from further big budget roles, basically firing an actor from a minority experiencing a mental health issue at a time when all eyes are on a lack of representation in their industry, wouldnt be a good look despite having all the reasons in the world to no longer work with Ezra going forward. (they may also not want to give any more ammo to the Snyderverse weirdo cult who glom onto any and every reason to beat WB over the head with until they get what they want, but that should be a low priority in this as they're going to do that anyway.) that said, the trailers make the film look good and I am tempted to see it in the cinema instead of waiting for it to hit streaming services/dvd-bluray, but the dceu has burned me too many times in this way. I mean I get what you're saying but boo f***ing hoo right? Just because someone is a sexual minority doesn't give them carte blanche to act like a degenerate. nope it doesn't, no one has carte blanche to act like an absolute bellend freely. (its something the mods have had to explain to people since day one of the boards.) |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 3, 2023 16:22:23 GMT -5
Surprise! Everyone ignore Erza... they're not here...
Also I kinda love they got Erza making the dopiest f***ing face for all of the headlines for this movie.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 3, 2023 16:26:09 GMT -5
Ezra got a beer flavored ding dong or something? it may just be down to the bad optics of firing a Jewish, Non-Binary, Pansexual person who seemingly had a prolonged mental breakdown. Now religion & sexuality shouldn't play a part in Ezra being fired or not due to what went on in the last few years as they should have been removed from the role no matter the outcome of the film's success or failure post release due to any criminal acts committed before the release of the film or while they are under contract, the only aspect that should be taken into account on their behaviour is if they had a genuine mental breakdown that is certifiable by at least three expert psychologists and even then Ezra should be lucky to still be working on anything that isn't an indie movie. But you can see why WB are weighing up their options on how things fall if they were to remove Ezra from further big budget roles, basically firing an actor from a minority experiencing a mental health issue at a time when all eyes are on a lack of representation in their industry, wouldnt be a good look despite having all the reasons in the world to no longer work with Ezra going forward. (they may also not want to give any more ammo to the Snyderverse weirdo cult who glom onto any and every reason to beat WB over the head with until they get what they want, but that should be a low priority in this as they're going to do that anyway.) that said, the trailers make the film look good and I am tempted to see it in the cinema instead of waiting for it to hit streaming services/dvd-bluray, but the dceu has burned me too many times in this way. It does sort of go into my theory of them basically keeping them under contract and bigging them up without actually needing to have them involved in promotional materials and such (because they haven’t shown up at any of the media events so far, nor should they). Because if they’re fired, well, you could set up a situation where WBD is tied up in court for discrimination, something neither party really needs. But if Ezra’s contract lapses and they’re not playing the Flash again? Well, the universe got rebooted, slap someone else in the costume and call it a day. Not much Ezra and their team can do about that. |
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 3, 2023 16:52:56 GMT -5
I imagine there's a certain degree of, "We need to do our best to at least try to sell this thing to make some money back, so even though by all rights we should we can't go throwing Ezra entirely under the bus right now," in regards to this nonsense.
Though Spidey doing way better than expected so far to the point of drawing the same amount in a day that Flash has been expected to do for the weekend (which would itself be a disappointing haul for it) is probably going to be even more of a black mark against this movie actually managing to not flop.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Jun 3, 2023 17:26:54 GMT -5
I imagine there's a certain degree of, "We need to do our best to at least try to sell this thing to make some money back, so even though by all rights we should we can't go throwing Ezra entirely under the bus right now," in regards to this nonsense. Though Spidey doing way better than expected so far to the point of drawing the same amount in a day that Flash has been expected to do for the weekend (which would itself be a disappointing haul for it) is probably going to be even more of a black mark against this movie actually managing to not flop. Oh, it's absolutely likely going to backfire but likely in the headspace of WBD and you're still in a rebuilding period, you promote what you can and get what you can get before you're starting from the top. I mean, we can have a conversation about two of the biggest films of the year likely being animated films should send a message to Hollywood to not treat them like crap but considering how Disney took a brand like Pixar and turned it into DTV material or how companies still seem to push live action as superior despite that, we're going to get that same message at the Oscars during Best Animated Film until the heat death of the universe. |
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 4, 2023 17:18:06 GMT -5
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Jun 4, 2023 20:08:24 GMT -5
Sure.
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