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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 8:35:24 GMT -5
Jericho is a f***ing leech, lol. He's all over The Elite like their "cool" uncle. Is it really leeching when he’s more popular and successful than them? I mean... Yeah, pretty much. He certainly doesn't need them monetarily (though he probably did for the cruise) but he is clearly using them to elevate his standing in the eyes of the indie crowd and try to make himself look cool.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 8:38:51 GMT -5
Is it really leeching when he’s more popular and successful than them? I mean... Yeah, pretty much. He certainly doesn't need them monetarily (though he probably did for the cruise) but he is clearly using them to elevate his standing in the eyes of the indie crowd and try to make himself look cool. They seem to be making mutual use of each other so I don't really get the crticism here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2018 8:47:38 GMT -5
I mean... Yeah, pretty much. He certainly doesn't need them monetarily (though he probably did for the cruise) but he is clearly using them to elevate his standing in the eyes of the indie crowd and try to make himself look cool. They seem to be making mutual use of each other so I don't really get the crticism here. I'm really not even criticizing, I'm just saying it's pretty clear that's what he's doing.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 25, 2018 10:25:09 GMT -5
Jericho is a f***ing leech, lol. He's all over The Elite like their "cool" uncle. Is it really leeching when he’s more popular and successful than them? He's a bigger name than them sure, but their trajectory is up. They've been taking off huge for a couple of years, whereas Jericho had been just another part time WWE guy. Working with them has kept his name relevant.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Nov 25, 2018 11:36:10 GMT -5
Depending on what is airing, I try to dvr it off the HD feed of BeIN sports. When I can't I watch it on YouTube.
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Post by KofiMania on Nov 26, 2018 0:06:25 GMT -5
Is it really leeching when he’s more popular and successful than them? He's a bigger name than them sure, but their trajectory is up. They've been taking off huge for a couple of years, whereas Jericho had been just another part time WWE guy. Working with them has kept his name relevant. Their trajectory may be up but popularity/fame-wise, they are still well below Jericho.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 26, 2018 3:32:50 GMT -5
I mean... Yeah, pretty much. He certainly doesn't need them monetarily (though he probably did for the cruise) but he is clearly using them to elevate his standing in the eyes of the indie crowd and try to make himself look cool. They seem to be making mutual use of each other so I don't really get the crticism here. It does feel a little weird, but at least Kenny and Jericho are mutually connected through Don Callis.
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Post by Larryhausen on Nov 26, 2018 15:33:12 GMT -5
What I really wanna know is:
Is Papa Buck gonna be doing everyone's entrance music?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 2:11:38 GMT -5
Because friends can't help each other out on multiple projects without one "leeching" off the other, of course.
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Post by mattyy on Nov 27, 2018 3:54:38 GMT -5
What I really wanna know is: Is Papa Buck gonna be doing everyone's entrance music? With how eager Downstait was to do ALL-IN's theme song, I'd say they might have a couple themes made(which may lead to WWE switching up Miz, Ryder, and Ziggler's themes), but I think the one, maybe very very small, possibility is Jim Johnston doing a theme. I'm on a couple of wrestling theme centered message boards, and the big scuttlebutt was the guy running WWE's music department wanted Johnston out because of royalty issues. Which is why CFO$ makes everything now. But it's said that Johnston was not really wanting to leave, and had interest in still making music for the company. With his appearance at Starcast, I think there is a shot at him producing some music.
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Post by Mozenrath on Nov 27, 2018 4:00:54 GMT -5
On the topic of Jericho, I think that, yeah, he wanted to work with a hot act and, obviously, it benefited his cruise idea, but I don't think it's necessarily as cynical as him trying to mooch or anything. He still pulls his own weight, even if I've found some of his NJPW booking tiresome. I think it's a mutually beneficial relationship for the time being. What I really wanna know is: Is Papa Buck gonna be doing everyone's entrance music? With how eager Downstait was to do ALL-IN's theme song, I'd say they might have a couple themes made(which may lead to WWE switching up Miz, Ryder, and Ziggler's themes), but I think the one, maybe very very small, possibility is Jim Johnston doing a theme. I'm on a couple of wrestling theme centered message boards, and the big scuttlebutt was the guy running WWE's music department wanted Johnston out because of royalty issues. Which is why CFO$ makes everything now. But it's said that Johnston was not really wanting to leave, and had interest in still making music for the company. With his appearance at Starcast, I think there is a shot at him producing some music. That'd certainly be a boon.
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Post by Larryhausen on Nov 27, 2018 5:36:51 GMT -5
What I really wanna know is: Is Papa Buck gonna be doing everyone's entrance music? With how eager Downstait was to do ALL-IN's theme song, I'd say they might have a couple themes made(which may lead to WWE switching up Miz, Ryder, and Ziggler's themes), but I think the one, maybe very very small, possibility is Jim Johnston doing a theme. I'm on a couple of wrestling theme centered message boards, and the big scuttlebutt was the guy running WWE's music department wanted Johnston out because of royalty issues. Which is why CFO$ makes everything now. But it's said that Johnston was not really wanting to leave, and had interest in still making music for the company. With his appearance at Starcast, I think there is a shot at him producing some music. Soooo, Downstait, Papa Buck, Jim Johnston, possibly Fozzy, maybe even Kazarian's band? That's at least a more eclectic musical landscape then what we get in WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 7:31:39 GMT -5
Who would have the book for this in theory? Obviously Bucks et al and Jericho would have input, but the idea of them booking themselves gives me pause.
JR? How would he book guys like that in the modern era?
Who else?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Nov 27, 2018 7:46:10 GMT -5
Who would have the book for this in theory? Obviously Bucks et al and Jericho would have input, but the idea of them booking themselves gives me pause. JR? How would he book guys like that in the modern era? Who else? Cody's probably going to be the head booker, I'd guess.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 27, 2018 11:50:35 GMT -5
Who would have the book for this in theory? Obviously Bucks et al and Jericho would have input, but the idea of them booking themselves gives me pause. JR? How would he book guys like that in the modern era? Who else? Cody's probably going to be the head booker, I'd guess. I wonder if "Cody finish" is going to become a common term.
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Post by mattyy on Nov 27, 2018 12:55:37 GMT -5
I'd think Cody, The Bucks, and Bad Influence have the book, but will work with talent regarding where they want the stories to go.
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Post by Fade on Nov 27, 2018 14:08:42 GMT -5
I agree the Jericho-Elite relationship is a mutual benefiting one. It's pretty similar to the initial dynamic between Cody and the Bullet Club. Except for..age I guess.
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Post by Fundertaker on Nov 27, 2018 16:48:18 GMT -5
Cody's probably going to be the head booker, I'd guess. I wonder if "Cody finish" is going to become a common term. If you mean a main-event being shortened because every other match went over time as the "Cody finish"... I'm all for it!
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Post by No Longer a Produceman on Nov 27, 2018 19:04:42 GMT -5
Who would have the book for this in theory? Obviously Bucks et al and Jericho would have input, but the idea of them booking themselves gives me pause. JR? How would he book guys like that in the modern era? Who else? Time to call that great booker of days gone by, Bill Watts!
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Post by kingoftheindies on Nov 27, 2018 23:51:57 GMT -5
Just to add more fuel to the fire, Cody tweeted out asking who the hottest wrestlers not signed anywhere were
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