All Elite Wrestling: On the Road to Double or Nothing

[bearned]

More competition is good for dis bizness, espicially if it’s backed by someone with serious money and an actual interest in wrestling.

I do wonder if the ‘Elite’ can keep up the momentum they have right now though. Only takes a couple of missteps and it’s gone. It’s pretty interesting that Omega has not been mentioned so far. He would be the big ‘get’ for them.

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Jan 1, 2019 12:41:41 GMT -5 kidkamikaze10 said:

As long as they positively contribute to the women's wrestling scene, and give POC wrestlers a legit shot, I'm down.

Both WWE and the NJPW/CMLL/ROH Alliance suck at both, with only WWE trying to do something about it.

I dont know why you adding NJPW/CMLL to this unless Japanese and Mexican people don't count as POC. Also Japanese wrestling is different where it has a long history of having Male and female only promotions. NJPW probably dont want to compete with all the Joshi promotions out there.

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I'm hoping the presentation of this is something a little more in line with WWE than most of the other big companies out there. Not saying trying to be exactly like them like TNA frequently did, but I'd like to see the overall tone and look of it to be more in line with WWE than with NJPW or ROH. Especially ROH, their stuff is just so damn dry and dull to try to follow on the regular.

[romanstylesiii]

If this company gets a TV deal, can we finally replace the TNA section on this board? TNA is smaller than ROH , New Japan, and now a 3rd company. It's over

[Susan "Poison" Candy]

So this was the Cosmic Key that Stardust talked about wanting to get a hold of

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Jan 1, 2019 15:32:44 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

I'm hoping the presentation of this is something a little more in line with WWE than most of the other big companies out there. Not saying trying to be exactly like them like TNA frequently did, but I'd like to see the overall tone and look of it to be more in line with WWE than with NJPW or ROH. Especially ROH, their stuff is just so damn dry and dull to try to follow on the regular.

I think they have a good formula if they stick with the BTE style presentation. Their shows can be primarily matches, some in-ring segments, but much of the stories could be told in "slice of life" segments where it shows wrestlers during travel and backstage, whether it's confrontations or just short documentaries and promos that flesh out the characters more. It got them this far so they might as well stick with it.

My main concern is that they'll be too comedic. I hope they don't get too cute with their storylines. When you think of the All In show, it was a fun show, but in the hype, all the "serious" matches aside from Cody/Aldis got just a match graphic while all the stuff with actual build was pure comedy, which worked great for that show but I don't think that's the way they'll wanna go for a full time organization. Still keep the absurdist stuff, but keep that in the undercard.

Also I feel mean for saying it but I hope they get someone better than Papa Buck for the music. It's fine for the DIY BTE videos but his music is way too corny for the big time. One thing I really like about Ring of Honor (been a while since I've watched them so I dunno if they still do it) is how they use independent music for entrances and videos and displayed the song titles and artist names whenever theyed play them.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Jan 1, 2019 13:27:47 GMT -5 KofiMania said:

Jan 1, 2019 13:10:33 GMT -5 OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 said:

The Kahn family has money and resources that Vince can only dream off, so it’s gonna be an interesting year.

I’m also curious if Vince is gonna see them as competition or not.

Here’s the thing, McMahon is ruthless and actually enjoys killing companies. He starts by signing away not the wrestlers but the production people, so he can get inside info about how their business run, he did it when he hired Al Derusha and JJ Dillon away from the AWA and WCW respectively.

He’s also very vindictive and petty. He f***ed over a dying AWA by revealing to the Chicago comission that Kerry Von Erich lost his foot so he would be violating bylaws that said that an active wrestler couldn’t have an artificial limb. The Grappler thinks that Vince also had a hand in killing Portland by bribing the athletic commission into making it very difficult for them to run shows.

I don’t think anyone is ready for that type of warfare.

It’s still unclear if the dad Khan is backing this with his money at all, all we’ve heard so far is it’s the son Tony Khan, who isn’t on the same level as his dad financially.

If they want to be a normal and profitable company then young Kahn is enough. If they want to truly be competition, then you need daddy Kahn.

[Steveweiser]

Forbes valued the Khan family at $6.3bn - not sure how much of that is Tony though.

[chrom]

As I said before my one condition for them for this is to have ZERO authority figures

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Jan 1, 2019 17:38:02 GMT -5 chrom said:

As I said before my one condition for them for this is to have ZERO authority figures

I feel like they're basically a necessity for having any kind of flexible storytelling. That said, I would keep the role to a minimum and only really use it when necessary, with no real direct storyline connections.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Jan 1, 2019 17:47:29 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Jan 1, 2019 17:38:02 GMT -5 chrom said:

As I said before my one condition for them for this is to have ZERO authority figures

I feel like they're basically a necessity for having any kind of flexible storytelling. That said, I would keep the role to a minimum and only really use it when necessary, with no real direct storyline connections.

Yeah a Tunney type that doesn't interfere or make matches on the fly.

[cabbageboy]

You could just have Tony Khan come out to make a ruling or match when it's necessary. The big problem is when the authority figures become the main stars of the shows.

I will say this...if that Turner network deal turns out to be true then this is a game changer. WGN would be nice too but probably wouldn't draw a big rating.

Omega's status in this is what I find intriguing. This group really does need him if they want to be successful.

[MolotovMocktail]

It's promising, though we have yet to see a single show from it. A lot of questions are out there right now, like where they will run shows, in terms of cities and venues, what type of TV and PPV deals they will have, working relationships with other companies, and contract structures. But it is hopeful. You have someone with money who is apparently a true wrestling fan (Tony Khan) behind it, and what looks to be wrestling people on the booking team instead of TV writers. If they get a decent TV deal, recognizable talent, and quality production value (the last one is really what has kept ROH from truly challenging), WWE might have some real competition. I don't want WWE to fail, but for these guys to knock them on their ass for a while might be the best thing to happen to American pro wrestling since the early 2000's.

[chrom]

Jan 1, 2019 18:42:50 GMT -5 cabbageboy said:

You could just have Tony Khan come out to make a ruling or match when it's necessary. The big problem is when the authority figures become the main stars of the shows.

I will say this...if that Turner network deal turns out to be true then this is a game changer. WGN would be nice too but probably wouldn't draw a big rating.

Omega's status in this is what I find intriguing. This group really does need him if they want to be successful.

WGN's been wanting wrestling on their station for a while, they wanted TNA back in 15 and sounds like they were going to get ROH until the deal with Chicago Tribune fell through.

All In Preshow on it did get 190,000 viewers which won the block for it.

[Mozenrath]

Jan 1, 2019 17:47:29 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

Jan 1, 2019 17:38:02 GMT -5 chrom said:

As I said before my one condition for them for this is to have ZERO authority figures

I feel like they're basically a necessity for having any kind of flexible storytelling. That said, I would keep the role to a minimum and only really use it when necessary, with no real direct storyline connections.

Yeah, like, having someone announce matches are happening is fine, but I don't want this to be like What Culture's wrestling venture where it just felt like a rehash.

I just want something like, not to Dario levels, much less McMahon, Bischoff, or Dixie.

[Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks]

Really hopeful about this. Going to support it as much as I can and hope it succeeds, for the fans and for all the talent who deserve better than what they're currently getting.

Don't care how much a long shot it seems right now, the McMahonopoly on pro wrestling is long overdue for a kick to the junk.

[A Platypus Rave is Correct]

Jan 1, 2019 19:07:56 GMT -5 Mozenrath said:

Jan 1, 2019 17:47:29 GMT -5 Lizuka #BLM said:

I feel like they're basically a necessity for having any kind of flexible storytelling. That said, I would keep the role to a minimum and only really use it when necessary, with no real direct storyline connections.

Yeah, like, having someone announce matches are happening is fine, but I don't want this to be like What Culture's wrestling venture where it just felt like a rehash.

I just want something like, not to Dario levels, much less McMahon, Bischoff, or Dixie.

What Culture wrestling... where they literally did everything they complained about the WWE doing >_>

[kingoftheindies]

Sounds like BJ Whitmer is gonna be a producer too

[Can you afford to pay me, Gah]

I'm interesting in what the roster will look like. The big thing for me is just have there own identity. We saw TNA try to be WWE Light, WCW 2.0, and ECW before WWE tried to relaunch. The smart move would be to have your show on TV air on either a Wednesday Night or Friday. Mainly stay away going head to head with WWE TV and not worry about the NFL that been a rating killer for the WWE because no matter how much money you have, still have to build a brand and you want wrestling fans to have the most attention. I think another thing would be having a lighter schedule than the WWE would also help draw people from either going to the WWE or leave it. Lighter schedules is better for a talents health and being in the WWE is where you get paid you have too. If you can be a legit alternative, it can change wrestling in a big way.

[chrom]

Wednesdays seem the best night