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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Feb 20, 2021 14:35:28 GMT -5
Okay, so reading up, Big Bird was not the sole guest star. That was Leslie Uggams. Haven't got to that episode yet, nor the one with Ernie and Bert from S1. And I swear our D+ includes the Brooke Shields episode. At least I think I saw the listing. Brooke Shields and Chris Langham are definitely missing from the lineup in Canada. Season 5 only has 22 episodes here |
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Post by Tom Turkey on Feb 20, 2021 15:34:00 GMT -5
Okay, so reading up, Big Bird was not the sole guest star. That was Leslie Uggams. Haven't got to that episode yet, nor the one with Ernie and Bert from S1. And I swear our D+ includes the Brooke Shields episode. At least I think I saw the listing. Brooke Shields and Chris Langham are definitely missing from the lineup in Canada. Season 5 only has 22 episodes here As noted elsewhere, the Chris Langham episode is omitted for very understandable reasons. |
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 22, 2021 12:14:46 GMT -5
Brooke Shields and Chris Langham are definitely missing from the lineup in Canada. Season 5 only has 22 episodes here As noted elsewhere, the Chris Langham episode is omitted for very understandable reasons. Maybe I was seeing things, re: the Shields ep. Again, Disney not having Oz rights: why we get crap like the Misunderstood Villainess Universe. I wonder if anyone has said, regarding Langham, "But WWE Network has Chris Benoit matches!" Or something like that. Now, I am wondering....with the Superman and Wonder Woman references being intact on the Reeve/Carter eps....could Disney be doing this to do some kind of deal with WB? Maybe to get rights to the Hanna-Barbera version of Fantastic Four? Or am I reading into things? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 12:48:05 GMT -5
Now, I am wondering....with the Superman and Wonder Woman references being intact on the Reeve/Carter eps....could Disney be doing this to do some kind of deal with WB? Maybe to get rights to the Hanna-Barbera version of Fantastic Four? Or am I reading into things? Might be reading too much into things.... Making references to Superman and WW shouldn't involve any legal entanglements. And given it's the Muppet Show, the concept of parody & its protections for non-owners might come into play too.. |
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 22, 2021 14:35:51 GMT -5
Now, I am wondering....with the Superman and Wonder Woman references being intact on the Reeve/Carter eps....could Disney be doing this to do some kind of deal with WB? Maybe to get rights to the Hanna-Barbera version of Fantastic Four? Or am I reading into things? Might be reading too much into things.... Making references to Superman and WW shouldn't involve any legal entanglements. And given it's the Muppet Show, the concept of parody & its protections for non-owners might come into play too.. Well....the Reeve ep. features posters/etc. of Reeve in Superman costume. I think the Carter one only references WW by name, outside of the parody of Miss Piggy being Wonder Pig. |
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Post by A Platypus Rave is Correct on Feb 22, 2021 14:42:45 GMT -5
Missing songs. "UK Spot" means stuff that was in the UK version: Bernadette Peters: “They Call the Wind Maria” and “I’m Five” missing Don Knots: “Lullaby of Birdland” missing and all scenes referencing it Cheryl Ladd: UK Spot “There’s A New Sound” missing Danny Kaye: UK Spot “Jogging” missing Roger Miller: UK Spot “Down at the Old Bull and Bush” missing Anne Murray: “Dancing on the Ceiling” missing James Coburn: UK Spot “Bird Walk” missing Tony Randall: “Ti-Pi-Tin” missing Hal Linden: “If I Ruled the World” missing Wally Boag: “The Ying Tong Song” missing Buddy Rich: UK Spot “A Transport of Delight” missing Marty Feldman: “Sesame Street Theme” missing The Brooke Shields episode is likely cut due to "We're Off to See the Wizard" being used. The fact the entire episode is missing likely means Disney is trying to still secure the rights... or are in talks to... cause I'd assume they'd just put it up cut like the other ones. Music rights has always been the issue with putting stuff like the Muppets up... they had broadcast rights to things... but things like home video didn't exist so they didn't have the distribution rights. the fact that only 2 episodes are missing, and only like 12 songs is pretty damned impressive. |
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 22, 2021 15:01:32 GMT -5
Missing songs. "UK Spot" means stuff that was in the UK version: Bernadette Peters: “They Call the Wind Maria” and “I’m Five” missing Don Knots: “Lullaby of Birdland” missing and all scenes referencing it Cheryl Ladd: UK Spot “There’s A New Sound” missing Danny Kaye: UK Spot “Jogging” missing Roger Miller: UK Spot “Down at the Old Bull and Bush” missing Anne Murray: “Dancing on the Ceiling” missing James Coburn: UK Spot “Bird Walk” missing Tony Randall: “Ti-Pi-Tin” missing Hal Linden: “If I Ruled the World” missing Wally Boag: “The Ying Tong Song” missing Buddy Rich: UK Spot “A Transport of Delight” missing Marty Feldman: “Sesame Street Theme” missing The Brooke Shields episode is likely cut due to "We're Off to See the Wizard" being used. The fact the entire episode is missing likely means Disney is trying to still secure the rights... or are in talks to... cause I'd assume they'd just put it up cut like the other ones. Music rights has always been the issue with putting stuff like the Muppets up... they had broadcast rights to things... but things like home video didn't exist so they didn't have the distribution rights. the fact that only 2 episodes are missing, and only like 12 songs is pretty damned impressive. More like the music and theme of the Shields episode was more intertwined into the episode in general. |
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Feb 22, 2021 18:59:09 GMT -5
Some Star content is up early in several markets including the UK and Canada
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Post by Tom Turkey on Feb 23, 2021 2:02:04 GMT -5
Star as a whole is now active in Canada, as of 2am et.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Feb 23, 2021 3:28:03 GMT -5
Star is now in Australia
And Futurama is included, despite not being in that listed I posted a few weeks ago.
EDIT: Also nice to see some of the excellent ESPN 30 For 30 documentaries included, but they are impossible to search for. Typing “30” “thirty” or “ESPN” into the search engine produces zero results. I just know they are there cause “Jordan Rides The Bus” comes up on the Featured banner on the home menu (probably trying to ride off The Last Dance buzz from last year), and saw eight other 30For30 titles in that title’s related menu. Edit Edit: if you go into the Star section you can scroll down and find the category “Sports Documentaries” and find the 30 For 30’s ... including the feature length one of “The Nature Boy” Ric Flair
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Post by Sir Woodrow on Feb 23, 2021 4:13:33 GMT -5
I went to watch Solar Opposites and it's gone
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Feb 23, 2021 8:48:33 GMT -5
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Post by WoodStoner1 on Feb 23, 2021 9:59:17 GMT -5
Sucky time for Brooke Shields, she had a femur injury and they can't use her MS episode.
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Post by cjh on Feb 23, 2021 11:11:28 GMT -5
Disney to its U.S. subscribers: Get f***ed.
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Post by mrtuesday on Feb 23, 2021 12:14:42 GMT -5
Disney to its U.S. subscribers: Get f***ed. Most of the Star content is already on Hulu. The rest are spread out over other services like HBO Max and Starz. Star also makes it that Disney doesn't have to launch Hulu on the markets that now have Star. And, there's already a streaming service in the US called Starz. Launching Star in the US would just cause brand confusion. |
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Post by cjh on Feb 23, 2021 12:28:40 GMT -5
Disney to its U.S. subscribers: Get f***ed. Most of the Star content is already on Hulu. The rest are spread out over other services like HBO Max and Starz. Star also makes it that Disney doesn't have to launch Hulu on the markets that now have Star. And, there's already a streaming service in the US called Starz. Launching Star in the US would just cause brand confusion. The U.S. version of Disney+ is now an objectively lesser product than it is in other parts of the world. That's the issue. Plus, almost all of the Disney-owned movies/shows that are on Hulu instead of Disney+ could be easily moved there if they added the parental controls that they have just added to the service outside of the U.S. Starz is a standalone streaming service while Star is just a section of Disney+, so the similar names shouldn't be an issue. |
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 23, 2021 12:38:04 GMT -5
Most of the Star content is already on Hulu. The rest are spread out over other services like HBO Max and Starz. Star also makes it that Disney doesn't have to launch Hulu on the markets that now have Star. And, there's already a streaming service in the US called Starz. Launching Star in the US would just cause brand confusion. The U.S. version of Disney+ is now an objectively lesser product than it is in other parts of the world. That's the issue. Plus, almost all of the Disney-owned movies/shows that are on Hulu instead of Disney+ could be easily moved there if they added the parental controls that they have just added to the service outside of the U.S. Starz is a standalone streaming service while Star is just a section of Disney+, so the similar names shouldn't be an issue. I mean, that might still happen in the future. The issue right now is that Hulu is still a service for at least a good couple of years with some of the deals signed with it and since Disney owns that too, there’s zero point in affecting that when it comes in a bundle in the US with ESPN. Until that’s the case, there’s no need to do much. For us, Hulu was supposed to come here for at least a decade and this was the best compromise instead of launching yet another service. |
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Post by Tom Turkey on Feb 23, 2021 12:48:32 GMT -5
Most of the Star content is already on Hulu. The rest are spread out over other services like HBO Max and Starz. Star also makes it that Disney doesn't have to launch Hulu on the markets that now have Star. And, there's already a streaming service in the US called Starz. Launching Star in the US would just cause brand confusion. The U.S. version of Disney+ is now an objectively lesser product than it is in other parts of the world. That's the issue. Plus, almost all of the Disney-owned movies/shows that are on Hulu instead of Disney+ could be easily moved there if they added the parental controls that they have just added to the service outside of the U.S. Starz is a standalone streaming service while Star is just a section of Disney+, so the similar names shouldn't be an issue. In Canada, we have Starz as part of the Crave streaming package, along with the recently launched Star. |
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Post by cjh on Feb 23, 2021 12:51:03 GMT -5
The U.S. version of Disney+ is now an objectively lesser product than it is in other parts of the world. That's the issue. Plus, almost all of the Disney-owned movies/shows that are on Hulu instead of Disney+ could be easily moved there if they added the parental controls that they have just added to the service outside of the U.S. Starz is a standalone streaming service while Star is just a section of Disney+, so the similar names shouldn't be an issue. I mean, that might still happen in the future. The issue right now is that Hulu is still a service for at least a good couple of years with some of the deals signed with it and since Disney owns that too, there’s zero point in affecting that when it comes in a bundle in the US with ESPN. Until that’s the case, there’s no need to do much. For us, Hulu was supposed to come here for at least a decade and this was the best compromise instead of launching yet another service. I have to think that would be the plan for the U.S. in the future. If not, why not just offer Hulu internationally the same as Disney+ or Netflix? |
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Post by cjh on Feb 23, 2021 12:52:05 GMT -5
The U.S. version of Disney+ is now an objectively lesser product than it is in other parts of the world. That's the issue. Plus, almost all of the Disney-owned movies/shows that are on Hulu instead of Disney+ could be easily moved there if they added the parental controls that they have just added to the service outside of the U.S. Starz is a standalone streaming service while Star is just a section of Disney+, so the similar names shouldn't be an issue. In Canada, we have Starz as part of the Crave streaming package, along with the recently launched Star. So Star isn't merely a Disney+ hub in Canada like it is other countries? |
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