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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 16:54:14 GMT -5
One important thing about where Cueto takes it is that he's a villain in much more of a typical dramatic sense; his double dealing and attempts to screw people over, make new problems to get out of problems he's made, and try to chessmaster his way through everything to not-always-useful effects makes him feel like a fictional character instead of like the company grandstanding its own existence. Too many heel authority figures in WWE are capable of wielding absolute power and screwing everyone over to very scant few repurcussions. They come out on top every time and are almost never outmaneuvered. Cueto is out there cutting deals with the devil and playing the man behind the curtain. Like I hate to just harp on "LU is the platonic ideal of wrestling as a television program", but Cueto serves as a really easy to show contrast in how the shows are written in terms of plotting and how the characters exist in fiction. And it's not a favourable contrast for WWE. One particular thing you said really hit the nail on the head..in that his dealings make problems to get out of previous problems he has gotten himself into it is always a chess match with him. And it makes everything he does extremely important as it should be because it isn't just him sitting around making matches finding ways to screw his roster he has his own personal problems as an owner and those problems affect his roster. And when those problems come to a head he has never escaped just because he is the owner so automatically they cannot be touched.
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Post by HMARK Center on Nov 23, 2018 16:57:49 GMT -5
Back when I was watching circa 2004/early 2005 I remember getting excited when they turned Bischoff into a tweener/neutral GM because he was sick of giving the shop away to Triple H and Evolution and not getting anything constructive in return. But then Cena came to Raw and they wanted Bischoff to be like late 90s Vince for him, so that killed that.
One of the really obnoxious things WWE does to lazily introduce more drama into stories is to keep adding layers of authority figures on top of others.
The GM has spoken! Wait, no, the Commissioner has overruled the GM! HOLD EVERYTHING, Vince McMahon just vetoed the Commissioner! Hold up, Linda's the top stock holder now, so what she says goes! STOP! The Board of Directors of the WWE rules that Raw must now become a weekly hour-long show updating people on the world of dog show competitions, WESTMINSTER RETURNS TO USA, WHAT WILL THIS MEAN FOR THE FUTURE OF WWE AS RAW ROLLS ON?!?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Nov 23, 2018 17:03:04 GMT -5
One important thing about where Cueto takes it is that he's a villain in much more of a typical dramatic sense; his double dealing and attempts to screw people over, make new problems to get out of problems he's made, and try to chessmaster his way through everything to not-always-useful effects makes him feel like a fictional character instead of like the company grandstanding its own existence. Too many heel authority figures in WWE are capable of wielding absolute power and screwing everyone over to very scant few repurcussions. They come out on top every time and are almost never outmaneuvered. Cueto is out there cutting deals with the devil and playing the man behind the curtain. Like I hate to just harp on "LU is the platonic ideal of wrestling as a television program", but Cueto serves as a really easy to show contrast in how the shows are written in terms of plotting and how the characters exist in fiction. And it's not a favourable contrast for WWE. As a lot of people have, in terms of WWE I'll bring this back to Regal. Undisputed Era have all these plots, schemes etc. But they get foiled by Regal who puts them in situations that negate their advantages, then they thing of ways around that and so on. It plays out like a battle of wits and is way more interesting than an all powerful figure just screwing over who they like endlessly.
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Post by Sephiroth on Nov 23, 2018 17:17:23 GMT -5
I’ve said before that the whole “evil boss” character thing actually predates Mr McMahon by a whole year-it really started when Eric Bischoff turned heel and joined the NWO. And that was 22 years ago. Ever since the evil boss/authority figure has been a fixture on wrestling tv. So sufficed to say its long since worn out and could stand to be replaced.
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Post by americanoutlaw911 on Nov 23, 2018 17:25:17 GMT -5
With GM we need more Like DrakeMaverick,William Regal and ever Johny Saint With Maverick is a strong hype man and help sell the show and make you watch to see it regal is a true Authority figure and one that done right Johny saint is more of a background Authority figure and it works great
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2018 18:14:38 GMT -5
they should just have a shadowy "championship committee"
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Post by RI Richmark on Nov 23, 2018 20:27:26 GMT -5
I've said it before but I'll say it again, I don't think a "Jack Tunney" style authority figure works in today's WWE format. Remember, back in Tunney's day WWF programming consisted of lots of jobber squashes, interviews and maybe one match between two midcarders a week. They also had MONTHS between PPVs to build storylines and feuds. Things move a lot faster today.
I do agree that the heel authority figure trope needs to be given a rest. It works but it's way overdone. As many here have said the best authority figures are the face/neutral types like Teddy Long, Paige, Regal and others. Also only one authority figure per show is needed. There's no need for a GM AND a Commissioner.
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Post by MrElijah on Nov 24, 2018 14:42:41 GMT -5
they should just have a shadowy "championship committee" We did find out out the fate of The WCW International board did we?
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