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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Dec 4, 2018 14:13:55 GMT -5
It goes back to what I said about Ambrose making this work. He's getting people to boo him, he's getting the "one more time" chants, he's the best part about this angle as much as people wish he was different. Rollins is being cheered more but the fact is he isn't pulling his weight here mostly due to the writing. At the end of the day Ambrose's changes aren't the problem because he's making it work by having people boo him more, by having Rollins cheered more and by having all the talk be about him. It's the Roman exploitation and the Vince stuff. Either way it just proves how great Ambrose is. Yeah people wish Ambrose was different and all but at the same time if you look at everything in this angle he's the best part about it.
Yep. Ambrose is special. I get people want him to be a heel they love to cheer but shit, I'd take him being booed and Rollins being cheered more than that. I'm done with people cheering people who need to be booed in angles. I'll say this though: by Summer next year Ambrose is going to be in the Universal title picture and he'll have honed in on this character to a level where people say "ok, yeah I thought that old stuff wasn't good but Ambrose is great now." Remember this post. Yeah, as much as I like “my guys,” it feels good to hear them get the reaction that they’re supposed to get while also having a potential top face of the company being cheered as loud as ever. When I say stuff like Ambrose sucks, it's in the context of "he's the bad guy and I wanna see his ass get kicked". I like talking the ins and outs of wrestling, but I still get emotionally invested in storylines and angles.
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Post by ookkie on Dec 4, 2018 14:16:43 GMT -5
The fact that dumpster king Dean Ambrose is being packaged as a germaphobe heel is so baffling and stupid that only WWE could have possibly brought this about. We wanted Jon Moxley and we got bubble boy. Don’t even get him started on the moops.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 15:09:10 GMT -5
Bane posting has made the big time!
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2018 15:18:23 GMT -5
Yea, I have to agree in the fact that YOU may not like the execution of it but the end results are coming together. Ambrose is getting booed and Seth is getting cheered
Yes, everyone wants psychopath heel but as we saw a few weeks ago him attacking Seth was starting to get cheers so got to flip the script a bit
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 15:31:02 GMT -5
Yea, I have to agree in the fact that YOU may not like the execution of it but the end results are coming together. Ambrose is getting booed and Seth is getting cheered Yes, everyone wants psychopath heel but as we saw a few weeks ago him attacking Seth was starting to get cheers so got to flip the script a bit Thats true. Looking at it as a stand alone segment rather than of the context of last nights show as a whole, it was a cool segment aside from the nausea inducing amounts of “YOU people” lol. I loved the idea of Dean being this Bane like figure in WWE where he wants to have full control of the IC title and bringing “good” to the belt, while also ruining Seth. The visuals of himself having these unknown, hired guns to fuel his cause of a “clean” WWE actually sounds badass the more I think of it lol especially if he holds the universal title and claims it as his “one true power.” Shit could be gold if done correctly.
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 4, 2018 15:41:44 GMT -5
Yes, everyone wants psychopath heel but as we saw a few weeks ago him attacking Seth was starting to get cheers so got to flip the script a bit I was fine with Ambrose being part of a tag team with Seth, it would have been nice if they could have been Tag Team Champions untill 'mania. It would have been great watching Ambrose master pairs of tits every night in a team with his best friend.
So not a fan of this angle or turning Dean in the first place.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 4, 2018 15:43:41 GMT -5
For anyone who missed it
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2018 15:50:25 GMT -5
Yes, everyone wants psychopath heel but as we saw a few weeks ago him attacking Seth was starting to get cheers so got to flip the script a bit I was fine with Ambrose being part of a tag team with Seth, it would have been nice if they could have been Tag Team Champions untill 'mania. It would have been great watching Ambrose master pairs of tits every night in a team with his best friend.
So not a fan of this angle or turning Dean in the first place. They were never going to be a team that long imo
The plan to turn Dean heel has been in motion since before he got injured and once he came it was just a matter of time as they were putting the pieces in place as soon as they could
If Roman didn't get sick, you probably would have the break up now since we are about to enter Mania season with the Rumble about to happen
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 15:57:13 GMT -5
Apparently according to reports Ambrose was supposed to cost Rollins the title weeks ago when Rollins faced Elias but that didn't work out. I'm guessing that they're just going to put it on Ambrose for a bit and then after Ambrose loses it he enters the Universal Title scene.
Ambrose right now reminds me of one of those (like I said in the Raw thread) Uncharted villains. If not Uncharted but one of those guerilla army vet mad men who have loads of soldiers in fiction. You know what I'm talking about. The crazy guys who are always decked out in nice jackets with money who ended up crazy due to what they've gone through. It's the same vein as if Rollins were a Yakuza member then Ambrose would be Majima. Ambrose, the guy with the lackies, acting wild, the guy's who's got it.
Bane's the best example though. Looks and everything.
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Post by Pgarodactyl on Dec 4, 2018 15:59:42 GMT -5
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2018 16:04:11 GMT -5
Yea, I have to agree in the fact that YOU may not like the execution of it but the end results are coming together. Ambrose is getting booed and Seth is getting cheered Yes, everyone wants psychopath heel but as we saw a few weeks ago him attacking Seth was starting to get cheers so got to flip the script a bit Thats true. Looking at it as a stand alone segment rather than of the context of last nights show as a whole, it was a cool segment aside from the nausea inducing amounts of “YOU people” lol. I loved the idea of Dean being this Bane like figure in WWE where he wants to have full control of the IC title and bringing “good” to the belt, while also ruining Seth. The visuals of himself having these unknown, hired guns to fuel his cause of a “clean” WWE actually sounds badass the more I think of it lol especially if he holds the universal title and claims it as his “one true power.” Shit could be gold if done correctly. The whole clean the WWE thing could have legs as it fits back into his Shield personality of believing in their own brand of justice so of course in his mind he will clean the WWE of all its rights and wrongs
Ambrose can flip and lean his character a lot of diff ways and while the fans may have wanted the psychopath, Dean himself probably saw that cheering and said nah f*** it let's go a little different. He has the range to pull off different character and I think this is one that could be very interesting especially if he sticks with the mask
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:08:52 GMT -5
He's gotta keep the bitchin' jacket and necklace, though. Makes him look like such a scumbag, lol. You know he has cut some people's fingers off for missed drug payments.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:11:15 GMT -5
Thats true. Looking at it as a stand alone segment rather than of the context of last nights show as a whole, it was a cool segment aside from the nausea inducing amounts of “YOU people” lol. I loved the idea of Dean being this Bane like figure in WWE where he wants to have full control of the IC title and bringing “good” to the belt, while also ruining Seth. The visuals of himself having these unknown, hired guns to fuel his cause of a “clean” WWE actually sounds badass the more I think of it lol especially if he holds the universal title and claims it as his “one true power.” Shit could be gold if done correctly. The whole clean the WWE thing could have legs as it fits back into his Shield personality of believing in their own brand of justice so of course in his mind he will clean the WWE of all its rights and wrongs
Ambrose can flip and lean his character a lot of diff ways and while the fans may have wanted the psychopath, Dean himself probably saw that cheering and said nah f*** it let's go a little different. He has the range to pull off different character and I think this is one that could be very interesting especially if he sticks with the mask
Yeah, f*** it, I’ve done a complete 180 the more I think about what they could do with this character of him being this martyr like figure who wants to bring “clean justice” to the WWE. Those apostale like dudes in mask could come in handy if you want to call up a few NXT dudes. Even the thumbnail looks sick lmao
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:15:24 GMT -5
He's gotta keep the bitchin' jacket and necklace, though. Makes him look like such a scumbag, lol. You know he has cut some people's fingers off for missed drug payments. Dude looks like the leader of a Las Vegas drug cartel and smuggling ring. Don't ask what's in those boxes or else.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Dec 4, 2018 16:27:31 GMT -5
Renee: 'For God's sake, Dean, you're on television, not in the bedroom.'
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2018 16:30:43 GMT -5
The whole clean the WWE thing could have legs as it fits back into his Shield personality of believing in their own brand of justice so of course in his mind he will clean the WWE of all its rights and wrongs
Ambrose can flip and lean his character a lot of diff ways and while the fans may have wanted the psychopath, Dean himself probably saw that cheering and said nah f*** it let's go a little different. He has the range to pull off different character and I think this is one that could be very interesting especially if he sticks with the mask
Yeah, f*** it, I’ve done a complete 180 the more I think about what they could do with this character of him being this martyr like figure who wants to bring “clean justice” to the WWE. Those apostale like dudes in mask could come in handy if you want to call up a few NXT dudes. Even the thumbnail looks sick lmao Yea, this could work very well
Give him his own hit squad (nobody really comes to mind right now) but they would be the "cleaners" of WWE and do all his bidding. That look works for him as he just looks like a sleazy drug lord who you know would murder you on site if he thinks you are stealing from him
Like I said while the full on psychopath could be fun, it was going to get cheered. This continues him being a hypocrite in regards to denouncing the Shield but yeah he still runs shit similar to the days he was in the Shield.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2018 16:32:20 GMT -5
He's gotta keep the bitchin' jacket and necklace, though. Makes him look like such a scumbag, lol. You know he has cut some people's fingers off for missed drug payments. Dude looks like the leader of a Las Vegas drug cartel and smuggling ring. Don't ask what's in those boxes or else. *Looks at the money roll*
Dean: It's $50 dollars short
Random guy: How the f*** do you know, it's wrapped in a rubberband
Dean: Don't make me cut you
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2018 16:33:52 GMT -5
Ambrose did say he was the moral compass of the WWE and he did say he's been consistent and that he hasn't changed. Judging by this new gimmick he seems to be telling the truth. His lackeys are wearing Shield-like vests. Ambrose said he's there to cleanse things, the Shield was there to right the wrongs of the WWE. The difference is that rather than being that guy on the battlefield fighting those battles, being the rookie, Ambrose is now that old vet who's formed his own organization and he calls the shots. He basically went from being Snake in MGS to being Big Boss. Dude looks like the leader of a Las Vegas drug cartel and smuggling ring. Don't ask what's in those boxes or else. *Looks at the money roll* Dean: It's $50 dollars short Random guy: How the f*** do you know, it's wrapped in a rubberband Dean: Don't make me cut you
He'd curl it like he's lifting weights too. "You trying to f*** me over Cal?" "Nah Dean, I swear I ain't man!!" "CAL YOU THINK I DON'T KNOW HOW A 30 PACK FEELS?!!"
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 4, 2018 16:39:39 GMT -5
He's gotta keep the bitchin' jacket and necklace, though. Makes him look like such a scumbag, lol. You know he has cut some people's fingers off for missed drug payments. Oh yeah, the jacket and chain are f***ing great.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Dec 4, 2018 16:42:48 GMT -5
Ambrose did say he was the moral compass of the WWE and he did say he's been consistent and that he hasn't changed. Judging by this new gimmick he seems to be telling the truth. His lackeys are wearing Shield-like vests. Ambrose said he's there to cleanse things, the Shield was there to right the wrongs of the WWE. The difference is that rather than being that guy on the battlefield fighting those battles, being the rookie, Ambrose is now that old vet who's formed his own organization and he calls the shots. He basically went from being Snake in MGS to being Big Boss. *Looks at the money roll* Dean: It's $50 dollars short Random guy: How the f*** do you know, it's wrapped in a rubberband Dean: Don't make me cut you
He'd curl it like he's lifting weights too. "You trying to f*** me over Cal?" "Nah Dean, I swear I ain't man!!" "CAL YOU THINK I DON'T KNOW HOW A 30 PACK FEELS?!!" Ambrose: You know what since you want to cheat me, you going snort this whole brick “But that would possibly kill me” Ambrose: My money being short is killing me to. You either cut a piece of to sell or used it yourself. Either way you paying up
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