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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 23, 2018 11:52:22 GMT -5
No way WWE get away with an Austin character calling someone a "S" "Hitman".
He was way too vulgar then, but I guess at that time, people accepted it.
There has to be no way, no chance in hell, any of the stuff Austin would do would fly today?
Guns?
Violence?
Blood?
Swearing?
Middle Fingers?
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Post by tankisfreemason on Dec 23, 2018 13:04:46 GMT -5
I voted no. 97 Austin was still a bit wild, but would still be fine for today. He barely said B**** in 97, and I heard that word said last week on TLC. Now, 98 Austin is a whole different animal.
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Post by GuyOfOwnage on Dec 23, 2018 13:17:50 GMT -5
Yeah, I definitely feel like Austin could pass for an edgy, unpredictable character today the way he did in 96/97.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 23, 2018 13:31:59 GMT -5
WWE are the ones who decided to go PG, not the audience. I can't think of one thing specific to Steve Austin that would be too "vulgar" for the audience. People didn't just become puritans and start shunning naughty words, WWE changed itself tonally, and the only thing Austin did on-screen that'd really get any different reaction now is stunnering women and. Hey you know what? Actually super not necessary or even an important part of his character
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Dec 23, 2018 13:33:56 GMT -5
Bayley of all people was clearly heard saying shit on camera this year.
It wasnt the audiences choice to go PG it was the companies, i am not sure if Austin would be too vulgar but maybe wouldn't respond the same since times are different
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Post by CMPunkyBrewster on Dec 23, 2018 13:35:29 GMT -5
People are entirely too sensitive these days. A character like Austin would have one half screaming about the children, and the other half scurrying for their safe spaces because the mean man said a bad word.
...I hate the world these days.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 23, 2018 13:36:37 GMT -5
People are entirely too sensitive these days. A character like Austin would have one half screaming about the children, and the other half scurrying for their safe spaces because the mean man said a bad word. ...I hate the world these days. You should go outside some time and actually see the world because it ain't this. |
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Post by wankah on Dec 23, 2018 13:42:31 GMT -5
People are entirely too sensitive these days. A character like Austin would have one half screaming about the children, and the other half scurrying for their safe spaces because the mean man said a bad word. ...I hate the world these days. You should go outside some time and actually see the world because it ain't this. Doesn't matter what happens in the real world as the online minority that gets upset about everything is the most vocal one and thus heard the loudest without actually saying a word. The whole thing is pretty much another form of info wars, but way more effective. |
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 23, 2018 13:43:24 GMT -5
You should go outside some time and actually see the world because it ain't this. Doesn't matter what happens in the real world as the online minority that gets upset about everything is the most vocal one and thus heard the loudest without actually saying a word. The whole thing is pretty much another form of info wars, but way more effective. Log off for a day. Leave the house. I'm begging you. This is insanity. |
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Dec 23, 2018 13:46:01 GMT -5
The Pillman gun incident nearly got them kicked off the air, also many parents complained because it upset there kids.
Can we please stop pretending being offended is a new invention?
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Dec 23, 2018 13:46:13 GMT -5
I mean, the audience still loves all of these things when they end up happening, so no.
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Post by blissified on Dec 23, 2018 13:55:56 GMT -5
Can we please stop pretending being offended is a new invention? It isn't but you can't deny it's gotten completely out of control the past few yrs. |
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Post by KobashiChop on Dec 23, 2018 13:56:44 GMT -5
People are entirely too sensitive these days. A character like Austin would have one half screaming about the children, and the other half scurrying for their safe spaces because the mean man said a bad word. ...I hate the world these days. You should go outside some time and actually see the world because it ain't this. Just this. So much. The entire "triggered snowflakes and their safe spaces" narrative is just melodramatic bullshit that tends to be unintentional self reflection from those who stick to that the closest. |
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Post by MrElijah on Dec 23, 2018 13:58:49 GMT -5
Nah. In fact we need someone who's as intense and as pissed off as '97 Steve.
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Post by I'm Team Bayley and Indi on Dec 23, 2018 14:00:46 GMT -5
Can we please stop pretending being offended is a new invention? It isn't but you can't deny it's gotten completely out of control the past few yrs. To be honest I hear way, way more people complaining about how bad it's got then people who are actually offended |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 14:07:01 GMT -5
Austin would easily be the most popular person in the company with today's crowds if he was doing the same stuff.
It terrifies me when I think about how this writing team would handle him, though.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Dec 23, 2018 14:24:05 GMT -5
I almost went in this direction on my first post but I was really, really hoping this nonsense wouldn't happen and we could just have a nice discussion, but clearly it's gone down the expected road so no I guess we're doing it then. Fine, let's play The Offended Pussy Boogeyman game again, here's the long form dispelling of all this nonsense before it goes too much further because maybe if we put a stop to this before page one it's gonna be okay. Gonna make this super clear here: people are not offended like you think they are and if you think Steve Austin is going to make people run to their "safe space" then you both don't know what that means and have been tricked by outrage mongers whose livelihood depends on convincing you that people you disagree with are bad.
Game of Thrones gets four times the ratings WWE does and it is a show so rapey that it actually makes sex scenes from the book that were originally consensual less consensual in the show. And it's received criticism for that. It's still on TV. Still pulling in 10 million viewers. Still a major thing people talk about. If THE SJWS held some kind of immense power and influence over entertainment that wouldn't be happening.
There is a cottage industry of Youtube personalities and news article headlines written for articles the writers know people won't actually read on through for context that is built around the idea that there's this whole group of people who are easily offended scream babies yelling about everything. Who take half-understood or out of context tidbits and blow them up, who take one single kinda dumb tweet written by one person out of millions of internet users and then applies it broadly as an ideological principle to an entire segment of the political spectrum.
I have witnessed with my own eyes on this very board threads wherein people pre-empted the offense of others with complaints about how everyone is easily offended when nobody in the thread was actually being offended. Who just wanted to post and let everyone know they were above it all and judging all the sensitive babies like it was going to impress someone. It seems to me that the people eager to complain about how everyone wants to be offended these days want people to be offended and want everyoen to know that they personally think it's bad people are so easily offended. Who take any criticism as outrage and complain about echo chambers from a weird perpetual feedback loop of complaining to each other about how easily offended everyone is.
There's no glory in propping up an army of strawmen to try and position yourself as better than. Steve Austin says "Shitman" and that's going to offend modern audiences? That's nonsense. People crying and running to their safe spaces? Pure goddamn nonsense. It's all empty nonsense meant to puff yourself up, and it exposes a malformed worldview removed from anything real or understandable. If you're going to throw yourself onto your sword at the idea that someone might theoretically become upset because of something you like, and that has to reflect on the world and its woes then sorry to say it but its your sensibilities that are the delicate ones.
Don't want to hear anything about facts over feelings if you're overlooking the facts raised about swearing and rating in this thread to complain about your feelings about people getting offended.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 14:30:28 GMT -5
Austin did things like call Bret Hart "Shitman" when the things we're ACTUALLY pissed about these days is casual homophobia and racism, so he'd get some shit because he engaged in both of those but not for that dumb crap.
I am so sick and tired of these threads. Sorry it's so hard to think about other people, I guess. I'm glad so much of this thread is calling this opinion stupid, because man, I am done respecting this opinion.
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Post by Gawk Rivers on Dec 23, 2018 14:41:23 GMT -5
I almost went in this direction on my first post but I was really, really hoping this nonsense wouldn't happen and we could just have a nice discussion, but clearly it's gone down the expected road so no I guess we're doing it then. Fine, let's play The Offended Pussy Boogeyman game again, here's the long form dispelling of all this nonsense before it goes too much further because maybe if we put a stop to this before page one it's gonna be okay. Gonna make this super clear here: people are not offended like you think they are and if you think Steve Austin is going to make people run to their "safe space" then you both don't know what that means and have been tricked by outrage mongers whose livelihood depends on convincing you that people you disagree with are bad. Game of Thrones gets four times the ratings WWE does and it is a show so rapey that it actually makes sex scenes from the book that were originally consensual less consensual in the show. And it's received criticism for that. It's still on TV. Still pulling in 10 million viewers. Still a major thing people talk about. If THE SJWS held some kind of immense power and influence over entertainment that wouldn't be happening. There is a cottage industry of Youtube personalities and news article headlines written for articles the writers know people won't actually read on through for context that is built around the idea that there's this whole group of people who are easily offended scream babies yelling about everything. Who take half-understood or out of context tidbits and blow them up, who take one single kinda dumb tweet written by one person out of millions of internet users and then applies it broadly as an ideological principle to an entire segment of the political spectrum. I have witnessed with my own eyes on this very board threads wherein people pre-empted the offense of others with complaints about how everyone is easily offended when nobody in the thread was actually being offended. Who just wanted to post and let everyone know they were above it all and judging all the sensitive babies like it was going to impress someone. It seems to me that the people eager to complain about how everyone wants to be offended these days want people to be offended and want everyoen to know that they personally think it's bad people are so easily offended. Who take any criticism as outrage and complain about echo chambers from a weird perpetual feedback loop of complaining to each other about how easily offended everyone is. There's no glory in propping up an army of strawmen to try and position yourself as better than. Steve Austin says "Shitman" and that's going to offend modern audiences? That's nonsense. People crying and running to their safe spaces? Pure goddamn nonsense. It's all empty nonsense meant to puff yourself up, and it exposes a malformed worldview removed from anything real or understandable. If you're going to throw yourself onto your sword at the idea that someone might theoretically become upset because of something you like, and that has to reflect on the world and its woes then sorry to say it but its your sensibilities that are the delicate ones. Don't want to hear anything about facts over feelings if you're overlooking the facts raised about swearing and rating in this thread to complain about your feelings about people getting offended. ily bitch |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2018 14:44:34 GMT -5
When you have a company still cussing, making homophobic references, displaying nepotism, showing sexual references, Austin is probably one of the only major stars who can go out there and have his material be pretty much the same sans the gun and the middle finger. It's Steve Austin, it's not 97 DX or Goldust.
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